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Now I can access my Cruise Personaliser, it's a liitle disturbing to see that there will be 10 "evening casual" nights and 1 Formal Night on a 14 day cruise. It begs the question of what the other 3 nights will be, but only one Formal in 14 nights is a real departure from the usual P&O format, in my opinion. Is this part of the "dumbing down" that has worried customers over the last few years? Whatever the code on my 50th anniversary night, we'll be "dressed to the nines"!

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bassman67 wrote:Now I can access my Cruise Personaliser, it's a liitle disturbing to see that there will be 10 "evening casual" nights and 1 Formal Night on a 14 day cruise. It begs the question of what the other 3 nights will be, but only one Formal in 14 nights is a real departure from the usual P&O format, in my opinion. Is this part of the "dumbing down" that has worried customers over the last few years? Whatever the code on my 50th anniversary night, we'll be "dressed to the nines"!
That is worrying as we love the formal nights - what cruise are you on? We are on the Christmas 2015 cruise...
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We're on B523, around the Med, in Oct 2015.

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We are on B504 but as yet there is no dress code shown on the CP.
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This is what mine says
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After unhurried days on board or adventurous days ashore, evenings at sea are always an occasion to look forward to. Just as every day brings something a little different so too does every evening, and to set the mood the dress code changes from night to night.



Evening Casual

Ladies: casual separates or dresses

Men: open-neck polo shirts and casual trousers (not shorts). A jacket and smart trousers can be worn but are not compulsory

Smart dark denim is also fine, but not trainers, football shirts or tracksuits

On a typical 14-night cruise on Britannia there are normally ten Evening Casual nights. This can include a 60s, 70s and or tropical evening on appropriate itineraries.



Black Tie

Ladies: glamorous cocktail dresses and gowns or a smart trouser suit

Men: a dinner jacket or tuxedo are the norm, but a dark lounge or business suit and tie can be worn as an alternative

As a rule, there is normally one formal black and white night per cruise.

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Like Jenni I will be disappointed if there is only one formal night - love the dressing up - oh well I wear pretty much what I like anyway :roll:
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Jan Rosser wrote:Like Jenni I will be disappointed if there is only one formal night - love the dressing up - oh well I wear pretty much what I like anyway :roll:
That is a bit of a surprise to me. I've made it plain many times that I'm not a fan of formal but to go to the trouble of carting all the mothballed stock on board for just one evening seems a bit of a palaver and I can understand the disappointment of those who would like more. Perhaps they could add an 'optional posh' evening to the schedule? I'm glad to see the end of the jackety evenings and maybe this can be spread to other ships. All academic to me as far as Britannia is concerned :)

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My personaliser says 4 formal and 10 casual, which is the same as Oceana & Ventura.

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Mervyn and Trish wrote:My personaliser says 4 formal and 10 casual, which is the same as Oceana & Ventura.
I hope yours is more accurate than mine!

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bassman67 wrote:This is what mine says
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After unhurried days on board or adventurous days ashore, evenings at sea are always an occasion to look forward to. Just as every day brings something a little different so too does every evening, and to set the mood the dress code changes from night to night.



Evening Casual

Ladies: casual separates or dresses

Men: open-neck polo shirts and casual trousers (not shorts). A jacket and smart trousers can be worn but are not compulsory

Smart dark denim is also fine, but not trainers, football shirts or tracksuits

On a typical 14-night cruise on Britannia there are normally ten Evening Casual nights. This can include a 60s, 70s and or tropical evening on appropriate itineraries.



Black Tie

Ladies: glamorous cocktail dresses and gowns or a smart trouser suit

Men: a dinner jacket or tuxedo are the norm, but a dark lounge or business suit and tie can be worn as an alternative

As a rule, there is normally one formal black and white night per cruise.
Ah now I get it.. There are 10 evening casual nights and 4 formal nights of which one is a Black and White night.... It is the way it has been written that has caused the confusion methinks :roll:
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Bleeding heck

I have serious "probs" on the pesky dressing up nights with my eye liners and lipeee :lol:

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Just been on my cruise personaliser for the Christmas cruise on Britannia and I read it as 10 casual and then it goes on to say what to wear on formal nights with one of them being black and white so deduce from that the other three nights are formal too. May be I'm reading what I want to read :roll:

See you've re-read it now Bassman and agree with my way of thinking :thumbup:
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JenniC wrote:
bassman67 wrote:This is what mine says
Britannia


After unhurried days on board or adventurous days ashore, evenings at sea are always an occasion to look forward to. Just as every day brings something a little different so too does every evening, and to set the mood the dress code changes from night to night.



Evening Casual

Ladies: casual separates or dresses

Men: open-neck polo shirts and casual trousers (not shorts). A jacket and smart trousers can be worn but are not compulsory

Smart dark denim is also fine, but not trainers, football shirts or tracksuits

On a typical 14-night cruise on Britannia there are normally ten Evening Casual nights. This can include a 60s, 70s and or tropical evening on appropriate itineraries.



Black Tie

Ladies: glamorous cocktail dresses and gowns or a smart trouser suit

Men: a dinner jacket or tuxedo are the norm, but a dark lounge or business suit and tie can be worn as an alternative

As a rule, there is normally one formal black and white night per cruise.
Ah now I get it.. There are 10 evening casual nights and 4 formal nights of which one is a Black and White night.... It is the way it has been written that has caused the confusion methinks :roll:
I think ( and hope) you're right

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Jan Rosser wrote:Just been on my cruise personaliser for the Christmas cruise on Britannia and I read it as 10 casual and then it goes on to say what to wear on formal nights with one of them being black and white so deduce from that the other three nights are formal too. May be I'm reading what I want to read :roll:

See you've re-read it now Bassman and agree with my way of thinking :thumbup:
I read it like that too Jan.. Great minds and all that :thumbup:
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bassman67 wrote:This is what mine says
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After unhurried days on board or adventurous days ashore, evenings at sea are always an occasion to look forward to. Just as every day brings something a little different so too does every evening, and to set the mood the dress code changes from night to night.



Evening Casual

Ladies: casual separates or dresses

Men: open-neck polo shirts and casual trousers (not shorts). A jacket and smart trousers can be worn but are not compulsory

Smart dark denim is also fine, but not trainers, football shirts or tracksuits

On a typical 14-night cruise on Britannia there are normally ten Evening Casual nights. This can include a 60s, 70s and or tropical evening on appropriate itineraries.



Black Tie

Ladies: glamorous cocktail dresses and gowns or a smart trouser suit

Men: a dinner jacket or tuxedo are the norm, but a dark lounge or business suit and tie can be worn as an alternative

As a rule, there is normally one formal black and white night per cruise.

That is correct one Black and White night. It should of course go on to say 3 other formals.

BTW we are on B523 as well.

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I assume that the formal nights will still be optional and not compulsory and one can opt out, should one wish?
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Dark Knight wrote:I assume that the formal nights will still be optional and not compulsory and one can opt out, should one wish?
Of course!

As long as you are prepared to miss out on going in the bits of the ship where the formal stuff is ;)

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Dark Knight wrote:Dave
I can live with that , should the mood take us
You'll be okay. Britannia's formal nights are not enforced in any of the bars on sleazy cruise.

Or are you weakening already?

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I would cruise on PandO again BUT only if the price was right and by that I mean a last minute bargain for next to nowt
It is not that I object to formal nights per se, just the perception that they make a cruise something special, only my opinion and not a rant :P
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Since there are fewer opportunities to get dressed up, even in a suit nowadays, it does make a cruise special. However it has nothing to do with snobbery. I am going on Azura shortly and looking forward to their formal nights when people from all walks of life and of all ages will be dressed in their finery. The ship does take on a different feel. Likewise smart casual evenings and the themed evenings provide a different 'ambiance'. Perhaps for me it's the variance in dress codes which I enjoy since I am equally at home out on the fells up to my ankles in mud!!!
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OBF
I am the total opposite, I wear a suit nearly everyday for work and attend a few black tie events every year, so when I am on holiday, I prefer to dress casually, so as not to be dressed for work
it is nothing to do with inverted snobbery , just my prefference for my holiday, which I have paid for
I disagree that clothes make the ambience, people do and it is the people that matter not the clothes
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I agree with you 100% about people creating an ambiance, but that is only a part of the equation.

My wife's hairdresser hails from Manchester and, being a young lady she is accustomed to Manchester's nightlife. She says up here they string a few fairy lights up and serve warm beer and call it a night club. Similarly you need to dress up the venue and the 'clientele' need to play their part in creating the atmosphere (similar to doormen preventing admission to those in football tops and trainers etc). As I see it the ambiance is created by three factors - venue, dress code and people.

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we are 2/3 of the way there
Venue and people
clothes dont make much difference in my opinion, you can still have muppets and chavs dressed up in a tux and they will still be a muppet or a chav
as the old adage goes you cannot polish a t**d ,only roll it in glitter and hope some of it sticks :lol:
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Dark Knight wrote:OBF
I am the total opposite, I wear a suit nearly everyday for work and attend a few black tie events every year, so when I am on holiday, I prefer to dress casually, so as not to be dressed for work
it is nothing to do with inverted snobbery , just my prefference for my holiday, which I have paid for
I disagree that clothes make the ambience, people do and it is the people that matter not the clothes
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we are a repressed minority QBob, but we stand by our principles :thumbup:
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But since neither of you are likely to be on the Britannia Maiden, 1) because there are unlikely to be any bargain basement offers and 2) because there's no wrap round Promenade deck, my holiday and life won't be ruined by the sight of you two wearing your string vests at dinner!!!!

So we're all happy then. :thumbup: :crazy:

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never say never, me old 10 bob millionaire :D
when they can't fill it and they are offering me the Maiden for half what you paid, I will be there in me shorts and string vest, with a knotted hanky on me head for formal night, just you wait and see :sarcasm:
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oldbluefox wrote:I agree with you 100% about people creating an ambiance, but that is only a part of the equation.

My wife's hairdresser hails from Manchester and, being a young lady she is accustomed to Manchester's nightlife. She says up here they string a few fairy lights up and serve warm beer and call it a night club. Similarly you need to dress up the venue and the 'clientele' need to play their part in creating the atmosphere (similar to doormen preventing admission to those in football tops and trainers etc). As I see it the ambiance is created by three factors - venue, dress code and people.
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Dark Knight wrote:OBF
I am the total opposite, I wear a suit nearly everyday for work and attend a few black tie events every year, so when I am on holiday, I prefer to dress casually, so as not to be dressed for work
it is nothing to do with inverted snobbery , just my prefference for my holiday, which I have paid for
I disagree that clothes make the ambience, people do and it is the people that matter not the clothes
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Now then - clothes and ambiance.................... Of course dress code matters. It wouldn't be much of a fancy dress party if nobody dressed up for it. That's all the dress code is but it helps to set the tone for the evening whether it be formal, smart casual or whatever. Surely even DK can't dispute that!!! Give in, man and leave QB to row the boat on his own!! :lol:
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I have found over the years that Formal can in fact have the opposite effect and people wearing black tie adopt a more formal attitiude to the event, thus negating any ambience created by , as you put it, going out in fancy dress :P
I have dressed up on formal night aboard ship and found it made sod all difference to my enjoyment of the evening, I have also found that the same people are more relaxed on casual nights rather than formal nights
why, because people read more into formal night than there actually is and many feel uncomfotable wearing what is for them, far removed from the norm, so they appear uncomfotable and ill at ease
I am sure people who have done lots of cruises etc would not appreciate this but the number of questions about formal night and what to wear says different
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Good try DK but I remain to be convinced so I will be merrily packing my bow ties, my posh white shirts and my cufflinks and relishing the idea of dressing up on my forthcoming cruise. :wave:

Watch out Azura cos 'Posh Fox of the Prem' is about to board!!! :lol:
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I’m at a loss here o dark one.

Do you mean to tell me that you don’t dress for dinner every evening at home? :o

And you implied that we “Scottish hangers on”, as you categorised us in an earlier topic post, were nothing but lesser mortals. :oops:

The question is not, do I put on a dinner jacket? but which one should I put on!! :wave:
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ITWA Travel Writer wrote:I’m at a loss here o dark one.

Do you mean to tell me that you don’t dress for dinner every evening at home? :o

And you implied that we “Scottish hangers on”, as you categorised us in an earlier topic post, were nothing but lesser mortals. :oops:

The question is not, do I put on a dinner jacket? but which one should I put on!! :wave:
Eee, is it that cold oop north that you have to wear a jacket?

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Quizzical Bob wrote:Eee, is it that cold oop north that you have to wear a jacket?
God protect me from those who would dine without a jacket. How common!! :shock:

Time for a lesson on etiquette:

After 6pm you are governed by convention. The occasion will determine the mode of gentlemen’s dress. There are only two conventions according to my butler, either a white tie for formal dress occasions. This is the top hat and tails scenario. Or the less formal black tie.

As regards the black tie convention, depending on the local, the climate and the temperature either a black dinner jacket or a white dinner jacket may be worn.

The white dinner jacket's origin on cruises and at tropical resorts speaks to its specific role as a less formal alternative to traditional black tie. It is only appropriate at formal occasions in the tropics year round and in other countries during a hot summer season, typically at open-air social gatherings such as country club dances and yacht club parties.

However, if a man is particularly serious about formal convention, then a white jacket should never be worn in the city “unless one has a napkin over his arm or a saxophone up to his lips”.

So if I meet you in the Caribbean, I would expect you to be adorned with a white dinner jacket and black tie. Any other colour of tie will inevitably have someone ask you for the wine list.

If per chance the reader is of the jellied eel’s fraternity and thinks that you require a passport to venture above the Watford gap, then I would point out that up north, in modern Scotland, our castles do now have central heating.
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Before anyone else asks - John are you by any chance related to Derek Kane :?: :lol:

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I'm not certain which of DK and John the travel writer make the most outlandish comments, both seem to be better suited to Fullers earth rather than this Earth. ;) :lol: 8-)
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Quizzical Bob wrote:Eee, is it that cold oop north that you have to wear a jacket?
God protect me from those who would dine without a jacket. How common!! :shock:

Time for a lesson on etiquette:

After 6pm you are governed by convention. The occasion will determine the mode of gentlemen’s dress. There are only two conventions according to my butler, either a white tie for formal dress occasions. This is the top hat and tails scenario. Or the less formal black tie.

As regards the black tie convention, depending on the local, the climate and the temperature either a black dinner jacket or a white dinner jacket may be worn.

The white dinner jacket's origin on cruises and at tropical resorts speaks to its specific role as a less formal alternative to traditional black tie. It is only appropriate at formal occasions in the tropics year round and in other countries during a hot summer season, typically at open-air social gatherings such as country club dances and yacht club parties.

However, if a man is particularly serious about formal convention, then a white jacket should never be worn in the city “unless one has a napkin over his arm or a saxophone up to his lips”.

So if I meet you in the Caribbean, I would expect you to be adorned with a white dinner jacket and black tie. Any other colour of tie will inevitably have someone ask you for the wine list.

If per chance the reader is of the jellied eel’s fraternity and thinks that you require a passport to venture above the Watford gap, then I would point out that up north, in modern Scotland, our castles do now have central heating.
Some people are slaves to fashion and convention, others lead the way and set the fashion ;). Down south here on the costa tropicala we don't call them jackets, they're overcoats!

I read about the history of the north once, don't they all sit round a fire in the middle of a round hut telling each other tales of derringer-do? That's why they call it central heating :)

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david63 wrote:Before anyone else asks - John are you by any chance related to Derek Kane :?: :lol:
OMG I thought, the monocled one has resurfaced.

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david63 wrote:Before anyone else asks - John are you by any chance related to Derek Kane :?: :lol:
I realise that I am probably leading myself into ridicule by asking this, but who is or was ‘Derek Kane’?
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Derek Kane a.k.a. The Monocled Mutineer (check out some of his posts)

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DK was a bit of a legend on the old P&O forum John.

Very funny at times but could start a fight in an empty room.

His posts generally made me chuckle until he got on to the subject of smoking. Gosh! right wing or what?
Hanging's too good for 'em etc.

In a weird way, I kind of miss his posts.

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barney wrote:DK was a bit of a legend on the old P&O forum John.

Very funny at times but could start a fight in an empty room.

His posts generally made me chuckle until he got on to the subject of smoking. Gosh! right wing or what?
Hanging's too good for 'em etc.

In a weird way, I kind of miss his posts.
Don't forget dress codes and no children should be allowed in the bars Barney :lol: :lol:
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barney wrote:DK was a bit of a legend on the old P&O forum John.

Very funny at times but could start a fight in an empty room.

His posts generally made me chuckle until he got on to the subject of smoking. Gosh! right wing or what?
Hanging's too good for 'em etc.

In a weird way, I kind of miss his posts.
Don't forget dress codes and no children should be allowed in the bars Barney :lol: :lol:
Or sunbed hogging.

Oh no. I forgot. I got into a little spat with DK (Kane, not Batty) because he was a self-confessed sunbed hogger. Despite all his other views about the "proper" way to behave reckoned it was okay to leave his paperback getting a tan while he mooched off for an hour or so for lunch.

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oldbluefox wrote:Good try DK but I remain to be convinced so I will be merrily packing my bow ties, my posh white shirts and my cufflinks and relishing the idea of dressing up on my forthcoming cruise. :wave:

Watch out Azura cos 'Posh Fox of the Prem' is about to board!!! :lol:
With you entirely on that one Foxy.

The dressing up I mean.

Sadly won't be with you on Azura. :crazy:

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Travel bloke, you lot wear skirts with no knickers on, so you are in no position to talk about fashion or clothing etiquette :D , but I do agree about the white DJ's only for wine waiters and band members
as for the archaic ritual of dressing up in black tie, it is nothing more than poor people, trying to emulate their social superiors, which is why you see a plethora of cheap nylon DJ's encasing sweaty ,fat, old men, on cruises.

there is no reason for formal wear on a cruise other than to try to make said cruise seem more upmarket than it actually is and try to fob off the cruise as traditional or something more glamorous than it really is, so for my part I maintain my stance and will not pander to the social climbing aspirations of a mass market cruise line
funnily enough, the "real " high end lines have done away with fancy dress and take a more modern approach to what to wear on holiday, shame some cruise lines are hanging on to the old myth that dressing up equals posh.... :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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I do tend to understand your viewpoint on this topic DK but as usual methinks thou dost protest too much, which makes me wonder why.
For myself I used to wear a dark suit for formal nights, an old one I should add, but after being cajoled by my good wife I eventually gave in and bought a DJ in a special Debenhams sale. Since then I hate to admit it but I do feel a bit special when I wear my DJ, and yes I know that smacks of social climbing but I really see no major problem in that.
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because I can and it is my right to do so :D
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By the same token does walking around with your shirt hanging out make you look 'cool'?
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I wouldn't know, I don't dress like that :thumbup:
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