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Re: Football 2018/19

Post by towny44 » 01 Oct 2018, 22:57

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7 games in …. what's that, 1/5th of the season ? …. Arsenal 5th, Watford 6th, Leicester 7th and Huddersfield a lowly 20th.
Thanks for reminding me of that Moby, and there was I thinking you were a friend. :(
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Post by Manoverboard » 02 Oct 2018, 09:05

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01 Oct 2018, 22:57
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01 Oct 2018, 18:25
7 games in …. what's that, 1/5th of the season ? …. Arsenal 5th, Watford 6th, Leicester 7th and Huddersfield a lowly 20th.
Thanks for reminding me of that Moby, and there was I thinking you were a friend. :(
I am a friend …. why, remember when I gave your lot a rousing " Ra Ra Ra " when you sat at the top last season.

ps …. Foxy has slipped to 8th cos Bournemouth beat Palace last night :oops:

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Re: Football 2018/19

Post by oldbluefox » 08 Nov 2018, 09:11

Did anybody see Raheem Sterling trip himself up and get a penalty for it?
What has happened to honesty and dignity. Personally I would have admired him had he put his hand up and admitted he had not been tripped but sadly I am coming to the conclusion that honesty is old fashioned. What sort of example is this England international setting to young impressionable kids? You may disagree but I thought he was a disgrace and a prime example of win at any cost. I would prefer to walk away with my integrity intact.

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Post by Manoverboard » 08 Nov 2018, 09:47

I only spotted his ' trip ' on the news this morning, perhaps it would have been a good idea to take the pen himself and deliberately fail to score !!

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Post by oldbluefox » 08 Nov 2018, 12:35

If he was in an England shirt he probably would anyway.

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…... :lol:


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Post by Ranchi » 08 Nov 2018, 16:55

I find penalty decision a bit hit and miss. It’s the way the rules are being interpreted and seemingly constantly evolving. It used to be that if a defender touched the ball before the attacker and the attacking player then went down then; no penalty. An alternative view ( & one which appears to be in the ascendency) is that if the defender touches the ball but doesn’t put it clear of the atteacker and then brings down the forward then a penalty would be given.
As for handball the idea of intent appears to have gone. You can see the way it’s going if you watch Spanish defenders who will clasp their hands behind their backs as they jockey forwards.
What is desperately needed is a consistent approach.

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Post by oldbluefox » 08 Nov 2018, 17:15

There is no consistency whether it be penalties, red cards, yellow cards. My feeling is that VAR would help. At the weekend we played Cardiff and a goal was handled onto the crossbar and out for a corner. (Having said that it was possible Vardy was offside so it may not have counted). Hence a possible goal was denied and the player should have been sent off. I don't entirely blame the referee as everything happened so quickly and his view may have been obstructed but three points could be costly for some teams and all may have hinged on that penalty decision. VAR is used in cricket and in rugby so I see no reason why it should not be employed in football although it becomes a bit of a farce when the ref himself has to parade over to look at the replay. Leave the decision to the fourth official.

And whilst I am on my hobby horse......... What is the reason for a player, who has just had treatment on the pitch for an injury, having to walk over to the edge of the pitch only to be invited straight back on. It seems a ridiculous ruling to me but there must be a logical reason....... or not.

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Post by towny44 » 08 Nov 2018, 18:52

I am not sure that VAR will bring any clarity, during the World cup I thought it caused far more confusion, I disagreed with most of the decisions where the referee went off to view the footage. If that's the case then why not just leave it to the refs on field decision and we can continue to argue a out if over a pint in the pub.
However I do agree that injured players should no longer have to leave the field, it slows things down when it's supposed to be about time wasting.
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Post by oldbluefox » 08 Nov 2018, 19:52

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I am not sure that VAR will bring any clarity, during the World cup I thought it caused far more confusion, I disagreed with most of the decisions where the referee went off to view the footage. If that's the case then why not just leave it to the refs on field decision and we can continue to argue a out if over a pint in the pub.
However I do agree that injured players should no longer have to leave the field, it slows things down when it's supposed to be about time wasting.
If my memory serves me right it's your round. Isn't that so Moby? :lol:

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Post by Manoverboard » 09 Nov 2018, 10:29

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08 Nov 2018, 19:52
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08 Nov 2018, 18:52
I am not sure that VAR will bring any clarity, during the World cup I thought it caused far more confusion, I disagreed with most of the decisions where the referee went off to view the footage. If that's the case then why not just leave it to the refs on field decision and we can continue to argue a out if over a pint in the pub.
However I do agree that injured players should no longer have to leave the field, it slows things down when it's supposed to be about time wasting.
If my memory serves me right it's your round. Isn't that so Moby? :lol:
No doubt about it ... and how the He** he can be against VAR is, well frankly, too ridiculous to be true.

I will always cite the goal that never was, Palace I think vs us Hornets, a decent shot on goal by their man but it bent off to the right and went wide by about a yard. The ref awarded a goal to Palace. I much prefer the use of VAR rather than thinking that that particular ref got a back hander for making that crap decision.

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Post by Ranchi » 09 Nov 2018, 10:52

Not sure but I think the injured player who has received treatment on the pitch & stopped the game only has to go off if he was injured as a result of a fair tackle or a mishap of his own making. If he is injured by foul play he doesn’t have to go off before a restart.

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Post by Manoverboard » 14 Nov 2018, 15:13

I note that Fulham have sacked the Serbian, he was also sacked by Watford :lol:

Anyhow the new man is an Italian feller, the one and only ' Tinkerman ' :clap:

ps … Ding Dong, Cold Willy … ish

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Post by oldbluefox » 14 Nov 2018, 15:18

Never 'eard of him!!! :lol:

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Post by towny44 » 25 Nov 2018, 22:56

Was anyone else lucky enough to see that great Huddersfield Town performance this afternoon? What a happy Terrier fan I am tonight.
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Post by Manoverboard » 26 Nov 2018, 09:27

towny44 wrote:
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Was anyone else lucky enough to see that great Huddersfield Town performance this afternoon? What a happy Terrier fan I am tonight.
I did …. every moment of it, live on Sky, and what a performance :clap: :clap:

ps … You're off the bottom of the table, up to 14th but you could be down to 16th this time tomorrow :cry: .

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Post by oldbluefox » 26 Nov 2018, 10:38

I still think we should spend a couple of thousand quid on that Mooy fella. I really rate him and we do have some great curry shops down in Lesta. That should be enough to tempt him. :lol:
Great win for your lot towny. Take no notice of Mob :wave:

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Manoverboard wrote:
26 Nov 2018, 09:27
towny44 wrote:
25 Nov 2018, 22:56
Was anyone else lucky enough to see that great Huddersfield Town performance this afternoon? What a happy Terrier fan I am tonight.
I did …. every moment of it, live on Sky, and what a performance :clap: :clap:

ps … You're off the bottom of the table, up to 14th but you could be down to 16th this time tomorrow :cry: .
Yes we are bound to drop at least one place, but it's still far better than bottom. What we need now is to continue our improvement on Saturday against Brighton.
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Post by barney » 27 Dec 2018, 15:36

What's going on at Leicester ?
One minute the talk is sacking the manager and the next, they are beating Chelsea and City back to back.

Then, my team, who must hold the record as the most inconsistent team in the football league beat Pompey home and away.
We've only won eight games this season and two of those have been against the league leaders.
Football ???
Go figure ?

So the big questions.
Can The Terriers stay up?
Can Watford get to the end WITHOUT sacking their manager?
Will Arsenal break into the top four?
Will The Foxes lose at home to Cardiff after beating two of the big four?

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Post by oldbluefox » 27 Dec 2018, 16:01

barney wrote:
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What's going on at Leicester ?

So the big questions.
Can The Terriers stay up?
Can Watford get to the end WITHOUT sacking their manager?
Will Arsenal break into the top four?
Will The Foxes lose at home to Cardiff after beating two of the big four?
Never a dull moment following the Foxes. You never know what is coming next.

In answer to your questions........
1. I hope so
2. Anybody's guess but this chap could be the one depending on what language he speaks.
3. Could do but Chelsea may have other ideas.
4. Be prepared for another shock. I dread to think about it.

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Post by Manoverboard » 28 Dec 2018, 11:34

My response is ….

1. Sadly not, unless they get a decent striker or two in the January window
2. He broke the mould and, unlike all the others, is on a 5 year contract
3. Yes but only if Hazard goes to Real Madrid from Chelsea
4. I do hope so as they are above us Hornets in the Table right now … :wave:

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Post by oldbluefox » 29 Dec 2018, 17:05

Why am I not surprised? Beat Chelski, beat Man City and then go and lose to Cardiff in the last minute!!!

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Post by barney » 29 Dec 2018, 18:13

That's footie. :o

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Post by Manoverboard » 30 Dec 2018, 12:35

… but we still sit below the Foxes in the Table :evil:

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Manoverboard wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:29
oldbluefox wrote:
08 Nov 2018, 19:52
towny44 wrote:
08 Nov 2018, 18:52
I am not sure that VAR will bring any clarity, during the World cup I thought it caused far more confusion, I disagreed with most of the decisions where the referee went off to view the footage. If that's the case then why not just leave it to the refs on field decision and we can continue to argue a out if over a pint in the pub.
However I do agree that injured players should no longer have to leave the field, it slows things down when it's supposed to be about time wasting.
If my memory serves me right it's your round. Isn't that so Moby? :lol:
No doubt about it ... and how the He** he can be against VAR is, well frankly, too ridiculous to be true.

I will always cite the goal that never was, Palace I think vs us Hornets, a decent shot on goal by their man but it bent off to the right and went wide by about a yard. The ref awarded a goal to Palace. I much prefer the use of VAR rather than thinking that that particular ref got a back hander for making that cr*p decision.

ps … I prefer wine to Eurofizz these days, thanks John

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The current goal line technology would have rectified your "blind" refs decision, so no need for VAR to cure that problem, and I still don't think VAR will improve the game. I don't agree that slow motion can improve all decisions, quite the reverse, quite a lot of fouls and "diving" offences look far worse when broken down frame by frame, far better to leave it to the refs judgement, in my "expert" opinion.
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Post by oldbluefox » 30 Dec 2018, 19:57

Yanited's Lukaku scored what looked like a good offside goal today. VAR would have been handy.

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Post by Manoverboard » 31 Dec 2018, 09:37

The Hornets had their first and only penalty over the Christmas period, I and the MOTD Team reckon there were others that were not awarded. We have had goals ruled out for wrong offside calls and been the victim of offside goals by the opposition. Overall I believe that we are 15 points adrift because of these errors.

Question is … are ALL teams in the Prem equally affected or do some suffer more than others ?

If it is ' the latter ' then VAR is needed to create a level playing field.

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Post by barney » 31 Dec 2018, 10:48

It does seem that when your team is struggling a bit, the decisions go against them.
That is no matter what division you are in.
At our level, some of the referees are quite obviously out of their depth whereas, most of the time in the Premier league, they appear to get it correct.

VAR should 100% be used at the top level because the stakes are SO high financially.

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Post by Manoverboard » 01 Jan 2019, 15:07

oldbluefox wrote:
29 Dec 2018, 17:05
Why am I not surprised? Beat Chelski, beat Man City and then go and lose to Cardiff in the last minute!!!
But then go n beat that ol fmucker Marco Silva at Everton … Vardeee :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Post by oldbluefox » 01 Jan 2019, 15:51

At least it keeps the 'Ornets playing catch up!! :lol:
Watched the match on Sky. There was the usual biased commentary but Cardiff posed a greater threat than the multi million pound parade on display in the Toffees team. It was a good solid performance from us today.

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Post by barney » 06 Jan 2019, 12:03

GILLS THE GIANT KILLERS !!!

Well, Cardiff City anyway :lol:

Man Utd away in the next round will do nicely #afewbob

Can't any of you Premier giants put in a decent bid for Blackburn's Bradley Dack.
We have a 15% sell on clause on that lad.
£25 million should buy him.
12 goals in 23 starts for Blackburn plus numerous assists.
I remember him making his debut back in 2012 and thinking that we have discovered another gem.
He'll end up in the Premier league, it's just where?

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Post by oldbluefox » 06 Jan 2019, 14:30

Well done the Gills.
Quite a few on our fan forums have mentioned Bradley but so far there has been no official link with him. That's not to say the hawks haven't been hovering but£25 million does sound a lot of money and a bit of a risk at that price.
We have Newport so brace yourself for another shock result!!!

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Post by barney » 06 Jan 2019, 15:22

Word is Southampton foxy. He's better than many midfielders in the Prem. Very little risk in my opinion.

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Post by oldbluefox » 06 Jan 2019, 16:19

It's always a gamble. We have half a team of players with international pedigree who cost us £25k+ and they are not up to the Prem - good Championship material at best. Glad it's not my money!!!
We bought Maddison from Norwich. He's a good player but he's had one or two mediocre matches so these young lads with great talent do need nurturing.

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Post by barney » 06 Jan 2019, 17:56

Championship player Madisson is the best player out there. Backs to the wall for Newport

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Post by barney » 06 Jan 2019, 18:29

Well. Who'd a thunk it. Foxy that's who.

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Post by oldbluefox » 06 Jan 2019, 18:42

Why am I not surprised. We had the chances but with forwards who couldn't punch their way out of a paper bag it was always going to be tight. Newport fought and battled for every ball and deserved their win so well done to them and good luck in the next round.
As for us we need to realise our second string is not good enough and woe betide us if Vardy and Pereira get injured. The likes of Iheanacho and Okazaki are just off the pace and too slow.
Why do Prem managers think it's acceptable to put out below strength teams? It's disrespectful to their opponents and to those supporters on both sides who have paid good money to see 'star players'.

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Post by oldbluefox » 06 Jan 2019, 18:44

Is this result not advisory and we should play it again now we know more about Newport? Just saying.............. :o ;)

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Post by Manoverboard » 06 Jan 2019, 19:05

The Hornets beat Woking 2:0 albeit with eleven changes …. just saying :clap: :clap:

ps … well done the Gills, see you at Vicarage Road in Round 4 perhaps ?

pps … what on earth were the Foxettes up to ?

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Post by oldbluefox » 06 Jan 2019, 19:48

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pps … what on earth were the Foxettes up to ?
After the display some of them put in I'd be ashamed to pick up my pay. They need shipping out.

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Post by barney » 07 Jan 2019, 11:53

Manoverboard wrote:
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The Hornets beat Woking 2:0 albeit with eleven changes …. just saying :clap: :clap:

ps … well done the Gills, see you at Vicarage Road in Round 4 perhaps ?

pps … what on earth were the Foxettes up to ?
We are really hoping for one of the big boys Moby.

Watford at home to The Gills will hardly generate much income as we've played you a couple of years ago in the Pointless Cup.
If my memory is correct, one Bradley Dack got the winner.

Any of the big clubs away would be ideal.
Utd top the list as we have never played them to my knowledge.
We've played Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and City in recent years …. and lost them all !
It's all about the money for us.
We get £215K for reaching this round which is loose change to you guys but a lifeline for us.

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Post by Manoverboard » 07 Jan 2019, 13:40

Woking were proud to announce that their Manager can have a new kettle as a consequence of the ' Live ' TV money on Sunday :lol:

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Post by barney » 08 Jan 2019, 16:26

Everyone happy with their draw.
We have the other Taff team but away this time.

Happy Moby ?
You could be facing Dack again, unless he's sold in the meantime.

Happy foxy ?
Happy towny ?

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Post by oldbluefox » 08 Jan 2019, 17:08

B****r off barney!!! :lol:

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Post by Manoverboard » 09 Jan 2019, 11:09

We seem to play Newcastle in every competition every year but I rather suspect that Benitez is hoping to be dumped by Blackburn … fine by me either way. Relieved a tad that we didn't get Newport though, they do look formidable :angel:

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Post by Manoverboard » 14 Jan 2019, 19:35

It has been announced, on Sky TV, that David Wagner has left Huddersfield. It seems he was not sacked but rather that he resigned because he felt that he was totally out of his depth Managing in the Premier League.

Sorry to hear that news :(

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Post by barney » 15 Jan 2019, 07:50

Shame. Good guy who did a good job given the resources.

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Post by oldbluefox » 15 Jan 2019, 14:44

It is a shame that Wagner has left. He has done well to get Huddersfield into the Prem but it is a big step up from the Championship, especially on limited resources and they could yo-yo between the two divisions for a few seasons. Whilst Burnley are struggling at the moment they were relegated and came back again under Dyche so it is possible.
Sad to see a manager who has achieved so much throwing in the towel (although you don't know what may have been going on backstage.......).

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