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Iona dress codes

Post by malcolm769 » 23 Jun 2019, 10:04

I know it's early,but can anyone give me an idea of how many formal/ semi formal dress nights I can expect on a 14 night Southampton to Southampton cruise
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Post by david63 » 23 Jun 2019, 11:18

The short answer is that nobody knows (outside of P&O)

If Iona follows the same pattern as the other ships then there will be two black tie evenings a week with the rest being smart casual - but it is possible that Iona will have her own set of dress codes.

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Post by Stephen » 23 Jun 2019, 11:44

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Re: Iona dress codes

Post by Stephen » 23 Jun 2019, 11:49

david63 wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 11:18
The short answer is that nobody knows (outside of P&O)

If Iona follows the same pattern as the other ships then there will be two black tie evenings a week with the rest being smart casual - but it is possible that Iona will have her own set of dress codes.

I can't see P&O changing the dress code for one ship from what is expected from the rest of the fleet. It hasn't happened before with new ships so why would they start now. Some passengers can't follow the current standard rules.

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Post by david63 » 23 Jun 2019, 13:11

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I can't see P&O changing the dress code for one ship from what is expected from the rest of the fleet. It hasn't happened before with new ships so why would they start now.
I wouldn't disagree but there were rumours that Iona would not have "formal" nights. If you recall P&O did have different dress codes on certain ships - Ventura and Oceana dropped "Informal" before the rest of the fleet, so anything is possible.

Whilst P&O havn't said that there will any change to the dress codes on Iona they also havn't said that there will not be.

There is also the change to all Freedom dining on Iona making a more "casual" ship so it is feasible that the dress codes could also change.

As I said, apart from P&O nobody knows at the moment.


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Post by Finker » 23 Jun 2019, 13:21

New P&O Cruises ship Iona will retain formal nights, the line’s senior vice president Paul Ludlow said tonight.

At an event to highlight some of the new food and features of the ship – launching in 2020 – Mr Ludlow answered a question about whether the requirement to dress up would be abandoned by answering: ‘No. On a typical seven-night voyage on Iona there will be one gala night.

This was last year on shipmonk.co.uk.

Apparently tbere will be a gin distillery too.

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Post by Gill W » 23 Jun 2019, 13:27

That’s interesting. Currently, on a typical 7 night cruise there’s 2 formal nights, so if Paul Ludlow is correct, it’s possible there will be less formal nights on Iona.

One formal night would make perfect sense to me. Make the Captain’s Welcome Aboard Party really special, and not bother with a formal-night-for-the-sake-of-it later in the cruise.
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Post by towny44 » 23 Jun 2019, 13:28

One black tie night per 7 days will be a big change on the current frequency.
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Post by Stephen » 23 Jun 2019, 13:44

Personally I think one formal night a week is plenty. On our recent ten day cruise there was the Captains gala dinner (nothing much gala about it) plus two further formal nights very close together. Mrs S and I like the formal nights but felt there was no need to squeeze so many in. The gala night and maybe one formal wood have been plenty.

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Post by Manoverboard » 23 Jun 2019, 14:00

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… One formal night would make perfect sense to me. Make the Captain’s Welcome Aboard Party really special, and not bother with a formal-night-for-the-sake-of-it later in the cruise.
I agree with you there Gill, Gala nights were really special when we first cruised with P&O c2,000 :thumbup:

In any event the ' formality ' will reduce by evolution as folk move away from Club Dining to the alternate Dining venues where the dress code would be elegant casual rather than Formal on the Formal night ( s ).


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Post by anniec » 23 Jun 2019, 14:20

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One formal night would make perfect sense to me. Make the Captain’s Welcome Aboard Party really special, and not bother with a formal-night-for-the-sake-of-it later in the cruise.
Well, we may not agree on B****t, but yet again we concur on something else - one formal night per week would be plenty for me as well, though I do think the majority view should prevail. Having said that, I have no idea what the majority view would be.


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Post by Ray B » 23 Jun 2019, 14:37

The problem nowadays is a cruise is not that special, as in years ago, you had to put up a great deal of money compared to today. The thing with the bigger and bigger ships is that they attract lots of families and younger passengers (which is a good thing), but today's new generation do not take much pride with what they wear, plus this is the new market cruise lines are trying to attract to their ships. Us more senior cruises may find it hard to take, but we must embrace it or go with more expensive line that do 'Posh'.

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Post by Manoverboard » 23 Jun 2019, 16:04

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The problem nowadays is a cruise is not that special, as in years ago, you had to put up a great deal of money compared to today. The thing with the bigger and bigger ships is that they attract lots of families and younger passengers (which is a good thing), but today's new generation do not take much pride with what they wear, plus this is the new market cruise lines are trying to attract to their ships. Us more senior cruises may find it hard to take, but we must embrace it or go with more expensive line that do 'Posh'.
Is that ' Posh ' la de da or ' POSH ' Port Out / Starboard Home ? :wave:


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Post by Ray B » 23 Jun 2019, 16:17

Manoverboard wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 16:04
Ray B wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 14:37
'Posh'.
Is that ' Posh ' la de da or ' POSH ' Port Out / Starboard Home ? :wave:
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Post by barney » 23 Jun 2019, 16:32

Ray B wrote:
23 Jun 2019, 14:37
The problem nowadays is a cruise is not that special, as in years ago, you had to put up a great deal of money compared to today. The thing with the bigger and bigger ships is that they attract lots of families and younger passengers (which is a good thing), but today's new generation do not take much pride with what they wear, plus this is the new market cruise lines are trying to attract to their ships. Us more senior cruises may find it hard to take, but we must embrace it or go with more expensive line that do 'Posh'.
That's a great point Ray.
Personally I like the odd formal evening but if there were fewer, it wouldn't be the end of the world.


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Post by daib GC » 24 Jun 2019, 00:36

Interestingly on FB there have been a number of polls and a recent one with 3000 + respondents came down very heavily in favour of the status quo. Which surprised me.

With regard to the original question I suspect there will be no change in dress codes on Iona.

Sorry just checked 2600 + respondents but the odd thing was that 880 wanted more formal nights.
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Post by towny44 » 24 Jun 2019, 08:57

daib GC wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 00:36
Interestingly on FB there have been a number of polls and a recent one with 3000 + respondents came down very heavily in favour of the status quo. Which surprised me.

With regard to the original question I suspect there will be no change in dress codes on Iona.

Sorry just checked 2600 + respondents but the odd thing was that 880 wanted more formal nights.
Dai, which FB page was that on, I did not see it on the P&O pages I use.
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Post by daib GC » 24 Jun 2019, 13:52

towny44 wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 08:57
daib GC wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 00:36
Interestingly on FB there have been a number of polls and a recent one with 3000 + respondents came down very heavily in favour of the status quo. Which surprised me.

With regard to the original question I suspect there will be no change in dress codes on Iona.

Sorry just checked 2600 + respondents but the odd thing was that 880 wanted more formal nights.
Dai, which FB page was that on, I did not see it on the P&O pages I use.
The main one ‘P & O cruises’ 3/4/5 days ago

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Post by towny44 » 24 Jun 2019, 14:27

daib GC wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 13:52
towny44 wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 08:57
daib GC wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 00:36
Interestingly on FB there have been a number of polls and a recent one with 3000 + respondents came down very heavily in favour of the status quo. Which surprised me.

With regard to the original question I suspect there will be no change in dress codes on Iona.

Sorry just checked 2600 + respondents but the odd thing was that 880 wanted more formal nights.
Dai, which FB page was that on, I did not see it on the P&O pages I use.
The main one ‘P & O cruises’ 3/4/5 days ago
Thanks Dai for some reason notifications were all off? Anyway I voted and was very surprised that my vote for fewer black tie nights was at the bottom with less than 10%, clearly at variance with quite a few folk over on CC.
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Post by Dancing Queen » 24 Jun 2019, 16:00

Maybe it's me but I don't see why people have such a problem with 'formal nights' - surely you make the same effort getting ready every night so what difference does it make whether you are wearing casual or formal clothes :roll:

I can perhaps understand people doing fly cruises where luggage limits could be an issue but not when sailing out of Southampton.

Yet another reason I no longer sail with P&O as they continue to 'dumb down' - perhaps some think the way forward is anytime dining and 'anything goes' but that isn't why I started cruising and I do wonder how many members had the same ideals I have when they started cruising ( which I have never lost )
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Post by Ray B » 24 Jun 2019, 16:10

Nice to know you are not alone, Jo.

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Ray B wrote:
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Nice to know you are not alone, Jo.

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Post by Stephen » 24 Jun 2019, 16:43

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Maybe it's me but I don't see why people have such a problem with 'formal nights' - surely you make the same effort getting ready every night so what difference does it make whether you are wearing casual or formal clothes :roll:

I can perhaps understand people doing fly cruises where luggage limits could be an issue but not when sailing out of Southampton.

Yet another reason I no longer sail with P&O as they continue to 'dumb down' - perhaps some think the way forward is anytime dining and 'anything goes' but that isn't why I started cruising and I do wonder how many members had the same ideals I have when they started cruising ( which I have never lost )


A buttoned collar, tie and jacket against an open neck loose fitting smart casual shirt.

Don't get me wrong, we like the formal nights, just not too many in a short space of time.


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Post by Finker » 24 Jun 2019, 16:46

Well Jo Speaking for myself I just do not like myself in formal clothing. I dont feel relaxed or comfortable.

My style of dress is smart and hopefully I do look smart but just have a dislike for dressing up. I am clean and well mannered and dislike swearing!!!

I am quite happy to eat in the buffett as there is a nice atmosphere in the evening. I am very happy to see others dressed up and enjoying themselves but feel no desire to do the same.

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Post by Gill W » 24 Jun 2019, 17:04

Stephen wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 16:43
Dancing Queen wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 16:00
Maybe it's me but I don't see why people have such a problem with 'formal nights' - surely you make the same effort getting ready every night so what difference does it make whether you are wearing casual or formal clothes :roll:

I can perhaps understand people doing fly cruises where luggage limits could be an issue but not when sailing out of Southampton.

Yet another reason I no longer sail with P&O as they continue to 'dumb down' - perhaps some think the way forward is anytime dining and 'anything goes' but that isn't why I started cruising and I do wonder how many members had the same ideals I have when they started cruising ( which I have never lost )


A buttoned collar, tie and jacket against an open neck loose fitting smart casual shirt.

Don't get me wrong, we like the formal nights, just not too many in a short space of time.
Yes, we've done some longer cruises in the last few years, and sometimes on formal nights it seems like Brenda from Bristol. 'Oh no, not ANOTHER one' !
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Post by Gill W » 24 Jun 2019, 17:12

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Well Jo Speaking for myself I just do not like myself in formal clothing. I dont feel relaxed or comfortable.

My style of dress is smart and hopefully I do look smart but just have a dislike for dressing up. I am clean and well mannered and dislike swearing!!!

I am quite happy to eat in the buffett as there is a nice atmosphere in the evening. I am very happy to see others dressed up and enjoying themselves but feel no desire to do the same.
We normally go along with the formal nights, but a couple of times on longer cruises, we have opted out and eaten in the buffet.

However, even though we have opted out of the formal night, we still change for dinner and make sure we are smart and well turned out.

There seems to be a view on forums, that, if people opt out of formal nights they are going to dress in a slovenly manner instead. I don't think this is the case at all.
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Post by towny44 » 24 Jun 2019, 17:20

Gill W wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 17:12
Finker wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 16:46
Well Jo Speaking for myself I just do not like myself in formal clothing. I dont feel relaxed or comfortable.

My style of dress is smart and hopefully I do look smart but just have a dislike for dressing up. I am clean and well mannered and dislike swearing!!!

I am quite happy to eat in the buffett as there is a nice atmosphere in the evening. I am very happy to see others dressed up and enjoying themselves but feel no desire to do the same.
We normally go along with the formal nights, but a couple of times on longer cruises, we have opted out and eaten in the buffet.

However, even though we have opted out of the formal night, we still change for dinner and make sure we are smart and well turned out.

There seems to be a view on forums, that, if people opt out of formal nights they are going to dress in a slovenly manner instead. I don't think this is the case at all.
Agree totally Gill, we enjoy formal nights but would enjoy them more, for the scarcity value, if there were fewer of them, one per week is plenty for us, although I do quite like the way I look in a DJ, even for an old codger.
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Post by Finker » 24 Jun 2019, 17:23

You are so right Gill. That is why I said tongue in cheek that I was clean and well mannered.

I have seen many a formally dressed person that has offended me in actions and speech.

Never mind. On American cruises the passengers usually change on a formal night after dinner and high end lines do not have formal evenings.

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You are so right Gill. That is why I said tongue in cheek that I was clean and well mannered.

I have seen many a formally dressed person that has offended me in actions and speech.

Never mind. On American cruises the passengers usually change on a formal night after dinner and high end lines do not have formal evenings.
Indeed not nor do the Riverboat Cruise Lines.

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Post by Dancing Queen » 24 Jun 2019, 19:26

I don't think I have ever suggested on this forum that people who 'don't do formal' are slovenly :o

I do however suggest that the 'dumbing down' by P&O has attracted shall we say some 'interesting' people, having spent in the excess off 500 nights on P&O ships I think this more than qualifies me to have an opinion :wtf:

I have never thought 'clothes maketh the person' but I do think P&O are going down the wrong road - just my opinion of course and like everything - others are entitled to theirs.
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Post by welshynurse » 24 Jun 2019, 20:19

I know I'm one of the minority but I love the whole dressing up thing. May be partly my job, despite popular opinion, there is nothing attractive about a nurses uniform!

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Post by oldbluefox » 24 Jun 2019, 21:50

You're not alone welshy. There are so few opportunities nowadays to dress up that the formal nights are something special. Must admit I used to like nurses when they wore those little hats and red lined capes. Now there's smart!!!! :thumbup:

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Post by towny44 » 24 Jun 2019, 22:43

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You're not alone welshy. There are so few opportunities nowadays to dress up that the formal nights are something special. Must admit I used to like nurses when they wore those little hats and red lined capes. Now there's smart!!!! :thumbup:
Not forgetting those wide belts wrapped around those tiny waists, Ohhhhhh, sorry getting too excited!!!! :shock:
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towny44 wrote:
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oldbluefox wrote:
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You're not alone welshy. There are so few opportunities nowadays to dress up that the formal nights are something special. Must admit I used to like nurses when they wore those little hats and red lined capes. Now there's smart!!!! :thumbup:
Not forgetting those wide belts wrapped around those tiny waists, Ohhhhhh, sorry getting too excited!!!! :shock:

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I know I'm one of the minority but I love the whole dressing up thing. May be partly my job, despite popular opinion, there is nothing attractive about a nurses uniform!
I don't think you're one of the minority at all. P&O survey their passengers often enough and if you were formal nights would be gone.

I simply think those who oppose the dress code shout louder.

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So true Merv !!!!

Maybe those of us who want to see 'formal' retained should start shouting louder :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Post by CaroleF » 26 Jun 2019, 09:23

I was one of those nurses with the old uniform, red lined cloak as well - and did we need those in the winter crossing the square to the hospital in London. Several years ago we had a lot of the military nurses at our local Portsmouth hospitals when the Royal Naval Haslar closed - a criminal act - and initially they appeared in their traditional naval nurses' uniforms - with their wonderful fluted caps. I was visiting a friend - she and I were both nurses in our dim and distant youth - when one of the Haslar nurses came in and we were reminiscing with her when she told us that a woman who she saw when she first came onto the ward said to her - 'Oh how lovely to see a proper Nurse!' I know there's lots of reasons why nurses today either wear disgusting overall type things or scrubs but Nurses dressed as they used to be certainly gave confidence to patients.

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CaroleF wrote:
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I was one of those nurses with the old uniform, red lined cloak as well - and did we need those in the winter crossing the square to the hospital in London. Several years ago we had a lot of the military nurses at our local Portsmouth hospitals when the Royal Naval Haslar closed - a criminal act - and initially they appeared in their traditional naval nurses' uniforms - with their wonderful fluted caps. I was visiting a friend - she and I were both nurses in our dim and distant youth - when one of the Haslar nurses came in and we were reminiscing with her when she told us that a woman who she saw when she first came onto the ward said to her - 'Oh how lovely to see a proper Nurse!' I know there's lots of reasons why nurses today either wear disgusting overall type things or scrubs but Nurses dressed as they used to be certainly gave confidence to patients.

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Did you not feel a sense of pride when you wore that uniform, when you got your belt buckle and when you wore that red cloak for the very first time? Maybe dress code is deemed old fashioned nowadays but sometimes I believe it makes people feel special, that they have achieved something. Moving from smart I wonder how theatre staff feel in their green 'scrubs', a uniform in its own rite?
In a German hospital close to us the nurses changed into a white top and white trousers and wore white 'clogs'. At least you could differentiate who was a nurse, who was an ancillary and who was the tea lady!!!
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Post by Mervyn and Trish » 26 Jun 2019, 15:32

Ah the Germans know how to do it. Tea ladies in operating theatres. Great when the surgeon needs a biscuit. :sarcasm:

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Ah the Germans know how to do it. Tea ladies in operating theatres. Great when the surgeon needs a biscuit. :sarcasm:

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Post by Jan Rosser » 26 Jun 2019, 16:25

All this talk of nurses uniforms - dear old Cubie would be salivating :lolno: - wonder how the old devil is ;)
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Post by GillD46 » 26 Jun 2019, 17:13

I still have my belt buckle and my Hospital Badge as well as my Registration Badge. I also have my Schedule of Nursing all duly signed and my finals papers.
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Post by CaroleF » 26 Jun 2019, 22:46

Yes I do think we felt a sense of pride in our uniform. Sometimes we moaned about the short sleeves in the depths of winter and sometimes we moaned about the collars in the heat of summer but yes I felt proud to wear the uniform - Barts in my case. We had sensible lace up black shoes - very comfortable once you got used to them and of course the black stockings - stockings not tights when I first started nursing. We were not allowed a scrap of makeup, no jewellery, and hair had to be back and off the collar. Very different now of course!

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Post by Dancing Queen » 27 Jun 2019, 17:05

Don't mention 'stockings' Carole it will send a few temperatures rising :o :crazy:

I so agree a 'proper' uniform did give confidence to patients, I think our NHS nurses are wonderful but the uniforms don't impress me.
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Post by GillD46 » 27 Jun 2019, 18:21

I worked as a Staff Nurse at the Royal Masonic Hospital in London in the long, hot summer of 1976. Our uniforms were the old style, made of heavy duty cotton and fully lined in the same material, then an apron over the top. We HAD to wear tights and lace up shoes and huge, frilly caps. It was utterly unbearable on the ward - with no a/c. Scrubs for me definitely!
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