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I see the new protocols for cruising have been published by P and O this morning.
It's what has been widely expected.
You will have to take an organised excursion to go ashore.


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Link here - https://www.pocruises.com/cruise-with-c ... 7DEACnvifA

All sounds pretty much as expected - still not sure if it will be the experience that I would want

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Whynd1 wrote: 13 Oct 2020, 10:44 I see the new protocols for cruising have been published by P and O this morning.
It's what has been widely expected.
You will have to take an organised excursion to go ashore.


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That’s not for us Lindsey.
I’ve had a good read and as David says, as expected.
I think I’ll be moving my 2021 to 2022 and see what happens.


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Not for me either for my April cruise.
Will look to move the deposit to 2022.
Have Arcadia booked for late August,will wait and see.

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The problem is that these protocols will be constantly evolving and we will not know from one cruise to the next what they will be and there is no option to cancel other than on "normal conditions" (at the moment)

From the sound of it it implies that you have to have a Covid test prior to embarkation but does anybody know how you go about getting one. I read somewhere (and I know not if it true or not) that a private Covid test costs around £200


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Just read them - can’t see us doing 99 nights World cruise like this - but who knows - we will wait and see how things pan out

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We on the other hand wouldn't even consider doing a weekender :lol:
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I'll be moving two of my cruises on to mid 2022 or beyond, as soon as the cruises for that period are released.

The third cruise will be in the next tranche of cancelations, or I'll just cancel and lose my small deposit
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We on the other hand will certainly be sailing next July if P&O have restarted, and assuming we meet all their criteria.
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Good to hear John - I like your positivity- we may well be going in August - we would probably do p and o excursions anyway on that particular cruise 🤗

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Thanks, but no thanks.


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My April cruise was to the Canaries, been a few times before so would not have booked any excursions just got off and wandered etc.
August cruise is Venice and Croatia so will probably book some excursions, but hoping by then that protocols regarding leaving the ship might have been relaxed a bit by then.
By the time the balance is due may have more of an idea of how things are with the virus.

Should have been in Norway this week.
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What date can you transfer up to.?
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screwy wrote: 14 Oct 2020, 11:16 What date can you transfer up to.?
P&O - Any currently marketed cruise but if I read it right you could then shift from that cruise to another one once that new one becomes available
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Ah ok, thannk.
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On the question of dining protocol, they say that only family travel groups can sit together, so I have to assume that there will only be tables for two in the main.

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Transfer of bookings may sound a good idea, but on investigation, I've found that moving my current booking for Azura on 13/5/21 to the equivalent cruise in Aug 2021 means a change in price from £5078 to £6432 for the same cabin!

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bassman67 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 09:13 On the question of dining protocol, they say that only family travel groups can sit together, so I have to assume that there will only be tables for two in the main.
You would expect so, but that would need a major change to the MDR with lots of 2 tops to buy and 6 and 8 tops to store.
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Our late August cruise of 19 nights has almost doubled. From approx £4000 to over £8000.

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Whynd1 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 09:40 Our late August cruise of 19 nights has almost doubled. From approx £4000 to over £8000.
I suspect, or maybe that's hope, this is because 2021 cruises are now approaching, if not in fact exceeding, the reduced capacity that might be needed if the pandemic is still a major problem, and the prices have been pushed higher to deter new bookings.
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Should I assume that this extra charge will be passed on to those of you with advance deposits ?
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Manoverboard wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 10:10 Should I assume that this extra charge will be passed on to those of you with advance deposits ?
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towny44 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 09:57
Whynd1 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 09:40 Our late August cruise of 19 nights has almost doubled. From approx £4000 to over £8000.
I suspect, or maybe that's hope, this is because 2021 cruises are now approaching, if not in fact exceeding, the reduced capacity that might be needed if the pandemic is still a major problem, and the prices have been pushed higher to deter new bookings.
If the pandemic is still a major problem 12 months from now, carnival may go to the wall, and this discussion will be academic

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bassman67 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 11:30
towny44 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 09:57
Whynd1 wrote: 25 Oct 2020, 09:40 Our late August cruise of 19 nights has almost doubled. From approx £4000 to over £8000.
I suspect, or maybe that's hope, this is because 2021 cruises are now approaching, if not in fact exceeding, the reduced capacity that might be needed if the pandemic is still a major problem, and the prices have been pushed higher to deter new bookings.
If the pandemic is still a major problem 12 months from now, carnival may go to the wall, and this discussion will be academic
That must certainly be a major worry for all of us cruise enthusiasts.
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They will survive but ownership could shift to the Chinese, deposits will be honoured but the secured cruise price will not.

Is my OL tea leaf type prediction :eh:
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Looks as this might be another step in the right direction - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54684985 - although at £120 a time it is somewhat on the expensive side.

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It used to be £200, according to chums, so another step in the right direction perhaps.
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david63 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 08:22 Looks as this might be another step in the right direction - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54684985 - although at £120 a time it is somewhat on the expensive side.
It is to be hoped that the NHS testing is far cheaper than that, otherwise at 340,000 tests a day it could be costing us almost £41m a day, or £15bn a year.
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The test chemists were offering to see if you had had the virus was £40.. I can’t see may folk paying £120 to see if they have it when there didn’t appear to be much take up on the other one... different tests I know. Shame they can’t do similar on the nhs.
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Expensive peace of mind. Have the test which shows your clear. So what, next week you could catch it, so that's a £120 down to the drain.
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It would be of value if the Hotel / B&B / Cruise Line insisted on a test certificate three days before the booking started to ensure nobody had it on arrival.
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Manoverboard wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 13:02 It would be of value if the Hotel / B&B / Cruise Line insisted on a test certificate three days before the booking started to ensure nobody had it on arrival.
My reading of P&O covid protocols is that all passengers will need to have tested negative before they are allowed to board.
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towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 13:44
Manoverboard wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 13:02 It would be of value if the Hotel / B&B / Cruise Line insisted on a test certificate three days before the booking started to ensure nobody had it on arrival.
My reading of P&O covid protocols is that all passengers will need to have tested negative before they are allowed to board.
Perhaps they will do a deal with Boots so that the test price is reduced to £50 for their passengers :thumbup:
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Better still. get a vaccine rolled out asap.

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I'm ahead of you in the jab queue so if you want a cruise before me then it'll cost you £80 :lol:
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Manoverboard wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 15:24
towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 13:44
Manoverboard wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 13:02 It would be of value if the Hotel / B&B / Cruise Line insisted on a test certificate three days before the booking started to ensure nobody had it on arrival.
My reading of P&O covid protocols is that all passengers will need to have tested negative before they are allowed to board.
Perhaps they will do a deal with Boots so that the test price is reduced to £50 for their passengers :thumbup:
RCI have said that testing will be done by them presumably at their cost, let's hope Carnival follow suit.
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towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 15:30 RCI have said that testing will be done by them presumably at their cost, let's hope Carnival follow suit.
They will pass the cost on to their passenger ... you :thumbup:
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Whatever happens,we’re all going to end up paying through the nose, especially if we transfer again.
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Manoverboard wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 15:38
towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 15:30 RCI have said that testing will be done by them presumably at their cost, let's hope Carnival follow suit.
They will pass the cost on to their passenger ... you :thumbup:
Hopefully not for our next 3 pre booked cruises.
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I will wait with baited breath for the new cruises.
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towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 16:14
Manoverboard wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 15:38
towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 15:30 RCI have said that testing will be done by them presumably at their cost, let's hope Carnival follow suit.
They will pass the cost on to their passenger ... you :thumbup:
Hopefully not for our next 3 pre booked cruises.
You will be paying for your jabs .... deffo :thumbup:
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Manoverboard wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 08:03
towny44 wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 16:14
Manoverboard wrote: 26 Oct 2020, 15:38
They will pass the cost on to their passenger ... you :thumbup:
Hopefully not for our next 3 pre booked cruises.
You will be paying for your jabs .... deffo :thumbup:
We will have to wait and see, I just hope I can remember where to find your post to prove you wrong. 8-) :?
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I hope that I am wrong but I can say that when we booked a World Cruise Sector within South America ' we ' were obliged to pay for the Yellow Fever jabs at £70 a go else get a privately paid for exemption certificate from our Doctor. Failing that we would not be permitted to board the ship, P&O’s Adonia 2013, but things do change of course.
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Manoverboard wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 09:12 I hope that I am wrong but I can say that when we booked a World Cruise Sector within South America ' we ' were obliged to pay for the Yellow Fever jabs at £70 a go else get a privately paid for exemption certificate from our Doctor. Failing that we would not be permitted to board the ship, P&O’s Adonia 2013, but things do change of course.
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That is a bit different to the Covid situation where testing or possibly proof of vaccination might be needed for all passengers, not just specific cruise areas: and we got our Yellow fever jabs free on the NHS.
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Save post #42 as a ' Favourite / Bookmark ' would be another option :thumbup:
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towny44 wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 09:17
Manoverboard wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 09:12 I hope that I am wrong but I can say that when we booked a World Cruise Sector within South America ' we ' were obliged to pay for the Yellow Fever jabs at £70 a go else get a privately paid for exemption certificate from our Doctor. Failing that we would not be permitted to board the ship, P&O’s Adonia 2013, but things do change of course.
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That is a bit different to the Covid situation where testing or possibly proof of vaccination might be needed for all passengers, not just specific cruise areas: and we got our Yellow fever jabs free on the NHS.
We took the ' exemption certificate from our Doctor ' route and had to pay because the NHS does not cover such costs.

It is possible that the NHS will provide a free test as a one off once a vaccine is available but I cannot see any reason why they would do so every time you, or anybody else, wants to go on a holiday ... unless it is within the UK perhaps.
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Manoverboard wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 09:24
towny44 wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 09:17
Manoverboard wrote: 27 Oct 2020, 09:12 I hope that I am wrong but I can say that when we booked a World Cruise Sector within South America ' we ' were obliged to pay for the Yellow Fever jabs at £70 a go else get a privately paid for exemption certificate from our Doctor. Failing that we would not be permitted to board the ship, P&O’s Adonia 2013, but things do change of course.
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That is a bit different to the Covid situation where testing or possibly proof of vaccination might be needed for all passengers, not just specific cruise areas: and we got our Yellow fever jabs free on the NHS.
We took the ' exemption certificate from our Doctor ' route and had to pay because the NHS does not cover such costs.

It is possible that the NHS will provide a free test as a one off once a vaccine is available but I cannot see any reason why they would do so every time you, or anybody else, wants to go on a holiday ... unless it is within the UK perhaps.
It is now a few years since we got our Yellow fever jabs, maybe we were just lucky with our choice of the surgery to obtain them, our own did not offer this service, but they were certainly free then.
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