The Baltics
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We are not doing many or expensive trips, and only the one for St. Petersburg. I cannot be a*sed to faff about with booking elsewhere, plus Celebrity are offering 30% off selected trips (last day today). I just need to know if the boat trip I mentioned above has some land stop off points or is it all boat trip.
If it's all boat trip then Mrs S can go on her own, as bobbing about on a river/canal for getting on for four hours listening to someone prattling on doesn't appeal much.
If it's all boat trip then Mrs S can go on her own, as bobbing about on a river/canal for getting on for four hours listening to someone prattling on doesn't appeal much.
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Hi Stephen, I have done three Baltic cruises and have booked to go again next year, there is so much to see. Certainly the trip you mention is well worth doing as you get to see the tombs of the Tsars and especially those of the newly interred Romanovs following the return of their remains to St Petes. The dungeons in the fortress are particularly horrifying. There is so much to see even from the boat trip but you should also consider some of the palaces, particularly the Peterhof and the Catherine palace where you can see evidence of how the Germans left them having got that close to Leningrad. I'm sure that once you've been, you will be wanting to see more, e.g. The Hermitage, Alexander Nevsky Cathedral and St Isaacs.
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colin parry wrote: ↑03 Dec 2018, 14:06Hi Stephen, I have done three Baltic cruises and have booked to go again next year, there is so much to see. Certainly the trip you mention is well worth doing as you get to see the tombs of the Tsars and especially those of the newly interred Romanovs following the return of their remains to St Petes. The dungeons in the fortress are particularly horrifying. There is so much to see even from the boat trip but you should also consider some of the palaces, particularly the Peterhof and the Catherine palace where you can see evidence of how the Germans left them having got that close to Leningrad. I'm sure that once you've been, you will be wanting to see more, e.g. The Hermitage, Alexander Nevsky Cathedral and St Isaacs.
Thanks for the info Colin.
So do we get land stop off's to roam around a bit on this particular river trip or not?
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OK.
It's like trying to get blood out of a stone or a politician trying to get a straight answer to my question.
Bu99er it. I'll skip it, Mrs S can go on her own.
It's like trying to get blood out of a stone or a politician trying to get a straight answer to my question.
Bu99er it. I'll skip it, Mrs S can go on her own.
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Stephen - would it be worth sending a private message to towny44. Looking on the Celebrity thread it looks like he did a city coach tour which went to Peter and Paul Fortress. He might have an old excursion book or spoke to someone who did a canal trip. The boat trip we did with PO only sailed up and down the river and canals and I don't remember getting off anywhere. Quite interesting to see the sights but that was all it was,just a sail past.
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We did the Baltic cruise on Aurora in May 2012 which included the overnight stop in St Petersburg. I knew that we would only visit there the once so I booked everything that was going. Her majesty didn't want to be out all day and wanted to come back to the ship for lunch which meant four separate half-day tours but the slow traffic back to the docks meant that there were only a few minutes between the morning and afternoon tours and no time to grab lunch.
We did a boat trip on the canals, a trip to the Church of the Spilled Blood, a visit to the Hermitage including the Gold Room (shiny ) and we had also been booked on another boat trip but when we found out that it was basically the same one that we had done the day before we dropped out.
We also did an evening trip to a conference centre for a show of Russian music and Cossack dancing which we thoroughly enjoyed. Others did the eveing trip to the Hermitage for a ballet show which also had good reports.
My advice, for what it's worth, is to do full day trips where possible so as not to waste time travelling back and forward to the ship. I would have liked to see some more of the monumental communist architecture such as the railway station and statue of Lenin but there was no official tour to these.
I found the immigration officials friendly and welcoming and there was not much of a delay in registering with them. Nothing to be scared of.
We did a boat trip on the canals, a trip to the Church of the Spilled Blood, a visit to the Hermitage including the Gold Room (shiny ) and we had also been booked on another boat trip but when we found out that it was basically the same one that we had done the day before we dropped out.
We also did an evening trip to a conference centre for a show of Russian music and Cossack dancing which we thoroughly enjoyed. Others did the eveing trip to the Hermitage for a ballet show which also had good reports.
My advice, for what it's worth, is to do full day trips where possible so as not to waste time travelling back and forward to the ship. I would have liked to see some more of the monumental communist architecture such as the railway station and statue of Lenin but there was no official tour to these.
I found the immigration officials friendly and welcoming and there was not much of a delay in registering with them. Nothing to be scared of.
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Thanks for the info Bob
Personally I'd rather pull my teeth out than go on a full day tour playing follow the leader with the flock and someone with a guide bat. I get bored very easily. Two to three hour trips is enough for me, and ideally doing our own thing. But as we have never visited any of the places on our itinerary before I'm having to play safe and go with the crowd.
We are both doing just over couple hours driving tour in Tallin. Apart from that Mrs S is doing a canal trip in St. Petersburg for three and three quarter hours and a garden trip in Warnemunde Germany for there and half hours
I'll amuse myself around the ship while the hoards are away
Personally I'd rather pull my teeth out than go on a full day tour playing follow the leader with the flock and someone with a guide bat. I get bored very easily. Two to three hour trips is enough for me, and ideally doing our own thing. But as we have never visited any of the places on our itinerary before I'm having to play safe and go with the crowd.
We are both doing just over couple hours driving tour in Tallin. Apart from that Mrs S is doing a canal trip in St. Petersburg for three and three quarter hours and a garden trip in Warnemunde Germany for there and half hours
I'll amuse myself around the ship while the hoards are away
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I'm.sure you realise the visa situation in Russia, organised tours are the way to go.
I have my excursion booklet from 2 years ago. I will look for you to see what short tours they offer and get back to you if there is anything relevant.
I have my excursion booklet from 2 years ago. I will look for you to see what short tours they offer and get back to you if there is anything relevant.
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Stephen
Have found my excursion booklet and there are a few short tours.
Peter and Paul fortress and boat cruise3.5 hours. £55
Visit the Peter and Paul cathedral, then a canal boat along the Neva river, pass by the church of the spilled blood. Champagne will be served.
Panoramic St Petersburg 3 hrs £42
Boat cruise and Yusopov palace 3 hrs. £62
and Picturesque St P 3 hrs. £52
Im sure most of the cruise lines tours will be similar.
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Have found my excursion booklet and there are a few short tours.
Peter and Paul fortress and boat cruise3.5 hours. £55
Visit the Peter and Paul cathedral, then a canal boat along the Neva river, pass by the church of the spilled blood. Champagne will be served.
Panoramic St Petersburg 3 hrs £42
Boat cruise and Yusopov palace 3 hrs. £62
and Picturesque St P 3 hrs. £52
Im sure most of the cruise lines tours will be similar.
Lindsey
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Fascinating museum in Stockholm is the preserved Vasa galleon/warship. It was preserved in its entirety in the Stockholm mud. It's a pleasant 20-30 minute walk or you can get the tram.
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There is also a hop-on hop-off boat option. If a cruise ship is in port they make a stop there too.oldbluefox wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 19:24Fascinating museum in Stockholm is the preserved Vasa galleon/warship. It was preserved in its entirety in the Stockholm mud. It's a pleasant 20-30 minute walk or you can get the tram.
I agree, the Vasa is well worth seeing. We also went to the gold room. There are 52 kilos of it there
http://historiska.se/utstallningar/the-gold-room/
https://www.stromma.se/en/stockholm/sig ... -off-boat/
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oldbluefox wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 19:24Fascinating museum in Stockholm is the preserved Vasa galleon/warship. It was preserved in its entirety in the Stockholm mud. It's a pleasant 20-30 minute walk or you can get the tram.
Sounds good Foxy
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Quizzical Bob wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 19:37There is also a hop-on hop-off boat option. If a cruise ship is in port they make a stop there too.oldbluefox wrote: ↑04 Dec 2018, 19:24Fascinating museum in Stockholm is the preserved Vasa galleon/warship. It was preserved in its entirety in the Stockholm mud. It's a pleasant 20-30 minute walk or you can get the tram.
I agree, the Vasa is well worth seeing. We also went to the gold room. There are 52 kilos of it there
http://historiska.se/utstallningar/the-gold-room/
https://www.stromma.se/en/stockholm/sig ... -off-boat/
Thanks Bob
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If you are looking for an option in Warnemunde then consider …
Get on a river boat ( complete with a bar ) and sail back n forth to see medieval Rostock.
or … and this one is for free
Do a DIY stroll in the lovely seaside town of Warnemunde itself; go on the beach, admire the colourful old houses etc and if funds permit then have a bowl of garlic prawns with a large glass of Riesling in a nice but informal restaurant in the Town Centre, by the lighthouse I recall.
Get on a river boat ( complete with a bar ) and sail back n forth to see medieval Rostock.
or … and this one is for free
Do a DIY stroll in the lovely seaside town of Warnemunde itself; go on the beach, admire the colourful old houses etc and if funds permit then have a bowl of garlic prawns with a large glass of Riesling in a nice but informal restaurant in the Town Centre, by the lighthouse I recall.
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Manoverboard wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 09:49If you are looking for an option in Warnemunde then consider …
Get on a river boat ( complete with a bar ) and sail back n forth to see medieval Rostock.
or … and this one is for free
Do a DIY stroll in the lovely seaside town of Warnemunde itself; go on the beach, admire the colourful old houses etc and if funds permit then have a bowl of garlic prawns with a large glass of Riesling in a nice but informal restaurant in the Town Centre, by the lighthouse I recall.
That sounds good
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… with lashings of crusty bread it is ' very ' good
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Maybe it's just me but I can't imagine anyone would book a cruise which included St Petersburg and not want to see as much as possible, personally I find Russian history fascinating but appreciate we are all different.
I'm not one for ships tours as most are overpriced and usually disappointing but unless you obtain a visa so you can DIY ( not cheap and I wouldn't recommend ) then there are only two choices either a ships tour or book with someone like Alla tours who arrange a group visa, you can of course choose to stay on the ship but such a waste imo.
Some lovely ports there so enjoy but do have a rethink about St P's although as they say 'each to their own'
I'm not one for ships tours as most are overpriced and usually disappointing but unless you obtain a visa so you can DIY ( not cheap and I wouldn't recommend ) then there are only two choices either a ships tour or book with someone like Alla tours who arrange a group visa, you can of course choose to stay on the ship but such a waste imo.
Some lovely ports there so enjoy but do have a rethink about St P's although as they say 'each to their own'
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My husband has no wish to go to the Baltic and I went many years ago, but regardless of where we go, a full day excursion is out of the question for us. Neither of us can tolerate sitting or standing for long periods, nor can I walk long distances, due to back injuries, so short excursions suit us.
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Dancing Queen wrote: ↑05 Dec 2018, 18:40Maybe it's just me but I can't imagine anyone would book a cruise which included St Petersburg and not want to see as much as possible, personally I find Russian history fascinating but appreciate we are all different.
I'm not one for ships tours as most are overpriced and usually disappointing but unless you obtain a visa so you can DIY ( not cheap and I wouldn't recommend ) then there are only two choices either a ships tour or book with someone like Alla tours who arrange a group visa, you can of course choose to stay on the ship but such a waste imo.
Some lovely ports there so enjoy but do have a rethink about St P's although as they say 'each to their own'
Not knowing diddly squat about Russia, we didnt know about the visa's until after we booked otherwise we may have had a rethink. For me the tours for St. Petersburg are far too long and priced too high. Still, hey ho, it's not the end of the world. We may still sort something out, there's plenty of time. Mrs S has her canal trip at St. Petersburg so she's happy.
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Stephen
You sound as though you have made up your minds and, for what it is worth, I share your lack of enthusiasm for "a full day tour playing follow the leader with the flock and someone with a guide bat" and have only very rarely joined organised P&O tours.
However, we did a Baltics cruise a year or two ago and, in St Petersburg, booked a private tour company, TJ Travel, to show us around. There were four of us, we had a brand new, air conditioned Mercedes people carrier for us and our guide, who spoke perfect English and was an absolute delight. In response to my initial email, they suggested a list of attractions from which to choose and tailored the tour to meet our exact requirements, with the offer to change any of it while we we there.
They arranged to meet us off the ship at 8.30a.m. but were there when we managed to get off earlier at 8a.m. There was no queueing anywhere, as a private party we were simply ushered past any queues and walked straight in. You don't need visas and they sort entrance fees and everything for you in advance.
Cost was c$300 p.p. for one full day and one half day(stopping wherever and whenever we wanted) and we paid nothing until the second afternoon.
We have recommended TJ Travel to a number of our friends and fellow forum members and, without exception, they have been glowing in their praise.
We chose TJ on the basis of their speed of response, flexibility and price and can only speak for them. As others have said, there are a number of similar private tour companies in StP (good old google) and they may well all be just as good. In any event, there is just so much to see in this spectacular city that it would be a shame to miss it and this is a good way to see as much or as little as you want without the crocodile and guide bat.
You sound as though you have made up your minds and, for what it is worth, I share your lack of enthusiasm for "a full day tour playing follow the leader with the flock and someone with a guide bat" and have only very rarely joined organised P&O tours.
However, we did a Baltics cruise a year or two ago and, in St Petersburg, booked a private tour company, TJ Travel, to show us around. There were four of us, we had a brand new, air conditioned Mercedes people carrier for us and our guide, who spoke perfect English and was an absolute delight. In response to my initial email, they suggested a list of attractions from which to choose and tailored the tour to meet our exact requirements, with the offer to change any of it while we we there.
They arranged to meet us off the ship at 8.30a.m. but were there when we managed to get off earlier at 8a.m. There was no queueing anywhere, as a private party we were simply ushered past any queues and walked straight in. You don't need visas and they sort entrance fees and everything for you in advance.
Cost was c$300 p.p. for one full day and one half day(stopping wherever and whenever we wanted) and we paid nothing until the second afternoon.
We have recommended TJ Travel to a number of our friends and fellow forum members and, without exception, they have been glowing in their praise.
We chose TJ on the basis of their speed of response, flexibility and price and can only speak for them. As others have said, there are a number of similar private tour companies in StP (good old google) and they may well all be just as good. In any event, there is just so much to see in this spectacular city that it would be a shame to miss it and this is a good way to see as much or as little as you want without the crocodile and guide bat.
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Thanks for the info kaymar, I'll bear it in mind.