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What will happen to shareholder benefits?

Remove it
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Decrease it
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Increase it
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Retain the current levels
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Shareholder benefits

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What do you think will happen to the current shareholder benefits (if anything)?

At the minute I am thinking the status quo will be retained. It would be a shame to lose it.
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Kendhni wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 09:19
What do you think will happen to the current shareholder benefits (if anything)?
I hope Carnival maintain them at the current level, at least for shareholders who have maintained their shareholding unchanged during the pandemic.
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It should be axed for 5 years, if you don't like the idea then sell the shares ... is my assessment
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Manoverboard wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 09:22
It should be axed for 5 years, if you don't like the idea then sell the shares ... is my assessment
Why, it costs Carnival very little in reality?
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Why ... because you can afford the loss even if you don't want to.

I hope that Carnival vote to give the value above to their crew members who's livelihoods have been devastated during these incredibly difficult times. To vote against would be read as pure greed.
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Manoverboard wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 09:39
Why ... because you can afford the loss even if you don't want to.

I hope that Carnival vote to give the value above to their crew members who's livelihoods have been devastated during these incredibly difficult times. To vote against would be read as pure greed.
Since the cost to Carnival is minimal, I doubt that sharing it among all the Hotel staff would amount to anything worthwhile. But it is likely to make recipients more generous with their tips to crew members, than would be the case if it was scrapped.
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towny44 wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 10:02
Manoverboard wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 09:39
Why ... because you can afford the loss even if you don't want to.

I hope that Carnival vote to give the value above to their crew members who's livelihoods have been devastated during these incredibly difficult times. To vote against would be read as pure greed.
Since the cost to Carnival is minimal, I doubt that sharing it among all the Hotel staff would amount to anything worthwhile. But it is likely to make recipients more generous with their tips to crew members, than would be the case if it was scrapped.
For me there is absolutely no connection between tipping levels and shareholder benefits.

Perks are surely based on profits so it looks as though you will be giving them money ;)
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It’s the benefits that attract the purchase of shares. No shareholders no new ships.
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Manoverboard wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 10:35
Perks are surely based on profits
No they are based on supporting a company through thick and thin.

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david63 wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 11:37
Manoverboard wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 10:35
Perks are surely based on profits
No they are based on supporting a company through thick and thin.
Therefore you should not receive the benefit during such thin times.
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Your sounding a bit anti Moby.

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Is that because I am saying things that I happen to believe ... but are falling on stony ground :)
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I’m happy with just the extra onboard spend and watching the share price occasionally. If and when Carnaval want to start giving out dividends again then that’s up to them. I certainly won’t turn my nose up at it.

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Manoverboard wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 13:34
david63 wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 11:37
Manoverboard wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 10:35
Perks are surely based on profits
No they are based on supporting a company through thick and thin.
Therefore you should not receive the benefit during such thin times.
Surely in tough times when profits and therefore dividends are a bit thin, it's even more important to maintain the shareholder benefits to help swell sales.
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towny44 wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 14:10
Manoverboard wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 13:34
david63 wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 11:37
No they are based on supporting a company through thick and thin.
Therefore you should not receive the benefit during such thin times.
Surely in tough times when profits and therefore dividends are a bit thin, it's even more important to maintain the shareholder benefits to help swell sales.
The driving force for cruise sales during the next few years will be Covid, financial incentives would not figure for the vast majority. In my own experience of share dealing over the past 40 years or more I can recall such perks being removed during tough times so why not Carnival.

Not that it matters cos there aint no cruises :lol:
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Manoverboard wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 09:09
towny44 wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 14:10
Manoverboard wrote: 02 Jan 2021, 13:34

Therefore you should not receive the benefit during such thin times.
Surely in tough times when profits and therefore dividends are a bit thin, it's even more important to maintain the shareholder benefits to help swell sales.
The driving force for cruise sales during the next few years will be Covid, financial incentives would not figure for the vast majority. In my own experience of share dealing over the past 40 years or more I can recall such perks being removed during tough times so why not Carnival.

Not that it matters cos there aint no cruises :lol:
Do you have any Carnival shares Moby?
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towny44 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 09:59
Do you have any Carnival shares Moby?
Certainly not, no point ... after selling Adonia it was unlikely we would sail with any of the Carnval brands :cry:
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Manoverboard wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 10:12
towny44 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 09:59
Do you have any Carnival shares Moby?
Certainly not, no point ... after selling Adonia it was unlikely we would sail with any of the Carnval brands :cry:
That wouldn't be influencing your comments by any chance?
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towny44 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 10:18
Manoverboard wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 10:12
towny44 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 09:59
Do you have any Carnival shares Moby?
Certainly not, no point ... after selling Adonia it was unlikely we would sail with any of the Carnval brands :cry:
That wouldn't be influencing your comments by any chance?
Of course not, why should it ?
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Manoverboard wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 11:00
towny44 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 10:18
Manoverboard wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 10:12

Certainly not, no point ... after selling Adonia it was unlikely we would sail with any of the Carnval brands :cry:
That wouldn't be influencing your comments by any chance?
Of course not, why should it ?
I believe you! Thousands wouldn't. :lol:
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