Brexit

[Jack Staff]

It may all depend on your outlook in life to decide how you feel about Brexit. Some are totally risk adverse. Others are happy to take a chance. Some are always cup half full. Some are cup half empty. Then you get the few who's cup is totally empty. The absolute truth is that no one really knows how it will all turn out. It could be an absolute disaster OR it could be the best thing we've ever done and the country will flourish. We'll soon find out.

My cup might be a little fuller if someone could tell me what benefit 'we' are expecting.

[Gill W]

I wish to comment on this part of post by Mamoverboard @ 9.14 today. "
"I post on the Brexit Topic from time to time and NOTHING is, nor ever has been, at the personal level … "

There was an extremely vile, vulgar and offensive post on this thread directed at one of the posters personally.
(It was removed)

I referred to it on the 'Boring Thread' post (did not mention what was actually written) and my post was removed!!!
I did write to express my disquiet (to the moderator and 2 others). I received no apology, nor even a reply, or acknowledgement.

Either you belong to the clique , or you are ridiculed.

I fully expect this post to be removed in one ...... two.......... three..................

As I’ve quoted you, GP, my post would need to be deleted too.

I didn’t see the post you mentioned, so I don’t know who said what to who.

I think it can be easy to forget that there are people with feelings reading our posts, and we can cause upset by what we say, even if inadvertently.

I expect to get replies saying if you don’t like it, don’t read it.

Trouble is, Brexit is the biggest thing to happen to this country in decades, and I’m increasingly compelled to talk about it. I can’t stop people using provocative language, but I will not turn a blind eye to it either.

GP, as you’d taken the time to raise your concerns, I think you should have had an acknowledgement, and the assurance that the author of the post in question now knows the language used is not acceptable.

[Onelife]

Here's some good Brexit news - We won't starve before August 2019!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rmers-warn?
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Hi Jack,

With that kind of propaganda I suggest you get down to Bicold/Iceland before the the freezers run dry...everyman for themselves and all that.

[Onelife]

I wish to comment on this part of post by Mamoverboard @ 9.14 today. "
"I post on the Brexit Topic from time to time and NOTHING is, nor ever has been, at the personal level … "

There was an extremely vile, vulgar and offensive post on this thread directed at one of the posters personally.
(It was removed)

I referred to it on the 'Boring Thread' post (did not mention what was actually written) and my post was removed!!!
I did write to express my disquiet (to the moderator and 2 others). I received no apology, nor even a reply, or acknowledgement.

Either you belong to the clique , or you are ridiculed.

I fully expect this post to be removed in one ...... two.......... three..................

As I’ve quoted you, GP, my post would need to be deleted too.

I didn’t see the post you mentioned, so I don’t know who said what to who.

I think it can be easy to forget that there are people with feelings reading our posts, and we can cause upset by what we say, even if inadvertently.

I expect to get replies saying if you don’t like it, don’t read it.

Trouble is, Brexit is the biggest thing to happen to this country in decades, and I’m increasingly compelled to talk about it. I can’t stop people using provocative language, but I will not turn a blind eye to it either.

GP, as you’d taken the time to raise your concerns, I think you should have had an acknowledgement, and the assurance that the author of the post in question now knows the language used is not acceptable.

Hi GP....I've been popping in and out of the forum most of the day and can't say i have read anything the equates to being vile or vulgar.....unless Stephen has been bad mouthing me again?

What words were used?

Regards

Keith

[Golden Princess]

I know what was written. I dont think I would like to put it in writing. You wont find the post as it was removed (thank goodness), but I can assure you that it was disgusting. It was a good couple of weeks ago now.

I am grateful to Gill for quoting my post (above) as this matter had been 'swept under the carpet' and any reference to it removed or ignored.

I trust that the person to whom the offensive post was directed received an apology.

[towny44]

I know what was written. I dont think I would like to put it in writing. You wont find the post as it was removed (thank goodness), but I can assure you that it was disgusting. It was a good couple of weeks ago now.

I am grateful to Gill for quoting my post (above) as this matter had been 'swept under the carpet' and any reference to it removed or ignored.

I trust that the person to whom the offensive post was directed received an apology.

If the post was removed then it must have done by one of the mods. which is what they should have done, in which case I am not sure why you are still concerned.

[Golden Princess]

Yes, thank goodness the post was removed by a mod and that is exactly what should happen. However, I did not think we had such members in this group. It brings the whole group in to disrepute.

It was the comment by a mod ""I post on the Brexit Topic from time to time and NOTHING is, nor ever has been, at the personal level … " today which brought the subject up again and to my way of looking at it is completely incorrect.

I am also concerned at the way this matter was deal with (or not).
My post with a small reference to the vile post (no details) was removed, and a message to a mod and two others was completely ignored.

Again, I trust that the person to whom the offensive post was directed received an apology.

I now feel we are completely off topic.

[Stephen]

I wish to comment on this part of post by Mamoverboard @ 9.14 today. "
"I post on the Brexit Topic from time to time and NOTHING is, nor ever has been, at the personal level … "

There was an extremely vile, vulgar and offensive post on this thread directed at one of the posters personally.
(It was removed)

I referred to it on the 'Boring Thread' post (did not mention what was actually written) and my post was removed!!!
I did write to express my disquiet (to the moderator and 2 others). I received no apology, nor even a reply, or acknowledgement.

Either you belong to the clique , or you are ridiculed.

I fully expect this post to be removed in one ...... two.......... three..................

As I’ve quoted you, GP, my post would need to be deleted too.

I didn’t see the post you mentioned, so I don’t know who said what to who.

I think it can be easy to forget that there are people with feelings reading our posts, and we can cause upset by what we say, even if inadvertently.

I expect to get replies saying if you don’t like it, don’t read it.

Trouble is, Brexit is the biggest thing to happen to this country in decades, and I’m increasingly compelled to talk about it. I can’t stop people using provocative language, but I will not turn a blind eye to it either.

GP, as you’d taken the time to raise your concerns, I think you should have had an acknowledgement, and the assurance that the author of the post in question now knows the language used is not acceptable.

Hi GP....I've been popping in and out of the forum most of the day and can't say i have read anything the equates to being vile or vulgar.....unless Stephen has been bad mouthing me again?

What words were used?

Regards

Keith

Nothing to do with me pal. You know me, if I'm going to bad mouth you I'll be up front and do it behind your back

[Jack Staff]

There is something going very wrong in this country if this guy and me share some common ground...
https://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... cause.html

(I am well aware that there is more than one person with the same name, I don't think we need a conversation about Canadian porn.)

[Onelife]

I wish to comment on this part of post by Mamoverboard @ 9.14 today. "
"I post on the Brexit Topic from time to time and NOTHING is, nor ever has been, at the personal level … "

There was an extremely vile, vulgar and offensive post on this thread directed at one of the posters personally.
(It was removed)

I referred to it on the 'Boring Thread' post (did not mention what was actually written) and my post was removed!!!
I did write to express my disquiet (to the moderator and 2 others). I received no apology, nor even a reply, or acknowledgement.

Either you belong to the clique , or you are ridiculed.

I fully expect this post to be removed in one ...... two.......... three..................

As I’ve quoted you, GP, my post would need to be deleted too.

I didn’t see the post you mentioned, so I don’t know who said what to who.

I think it can be easy to forget that there are people with feelings reading our posts, and we can cause upset by what we say, even if inadvertently.

I expect to get replies saying if you don’t like it, don’t read it.

Trouble is, Brexit is the biggest thing to happen to this country in decades, and I’m increasingly compelled to talk about it. I can’t stop people using provocative language, but I will not turn a blind eye to it either.

GP, as you’d taken the time to raise your concerns, I think you should have had an acknowledgement, and the assurance that the author of the post in question now knows the language used is not acceptable.

Hi GP....I've been popping in and out of the forum most of the day and can't say i have read anything the equates to being vile or vulgar.....unless Stephen has been bad mouthing me again?

What words were used?

Regards

Keith

Nothing to do with me pal. You know me, if I'm going to bad mouth you I'll be up front and do it behind your back

I'm just thankful that me, OBF, David, and Mob are best mates....l dread to think what you would be allowed to get away with if we weren't.

[barney]

There is something going very wrong in this country if this guy and me share some common ground...
https://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... cause.html

(I am well aware that there is more than one person with the same name, I don't think we need a conversation about Canadian porn.)

Another borderline manic depressive in my opinion. The rantings of a lunatic. The article doesn't make sense. In the same paragraph he talks of financial gain and massive losses. Yet another who cannot accept the future on the basis that he thinks all trade will stop in April . Absolute nonsense.

[Jack Staff]

There is something going very wrong in this country if this guy and me share some common ground...
https://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... cause.html

(I am well aware that there is more than one person with the same name, I don't think we need a conversation about Canadian porn.)

Another borderline manic depressive in my opinion. The rantings of a lunatic. The article doesn't make sense. In the same paragraph he talks of financial gain and massive losses. Yet another who cannot accept the future on the basis that he thinks all trade will stop in April . Absolute nonsense.

Well that's Brexiters for you.

[oldbluefox]

I read the other day that unless there is a Brexit deal we will no longer be able to buy Irish cheddar. Apparently Britain buys more than half of Ireland’s cheddar exports. What is the world coming to? I thought cheddar came from...........Cheddar? Good news for our own cheese makers then.

[Jack Staff]

I read the other day that unless there is a Brexit deal we will no longer be able to buy Irish cheddar. Apparently Britain buys more than half of Ireland’s cheddar exports. What is the world coming to? I thought cheddar came from...........Cheddar? Good news for our own cheese makers then.

No, the milk they use comes from Ireland too.

[oldbluefox]

Oddly enough there is a cheese company not far from us and a friend of mine goes around the farms collecting milk so I'm not sure where you got that information from Jack. If you are indeed correct Ireland are going to have to find somewhere else for their excess milk so it's not good news for them and maybe British farmers will be encouraged to produce more.

[towny44]

Oddly enough there is a cheese company not far from us and a friend of mine goes around the farms collecting milk so I'm not sure where you got that information from Jack. If you are indeed correct Ireland are going to have to find somewhere else for their excess milk so it's not good news for them and maybe British farmers will be encouraged to produce more.

Jack and the truth are terms that are not generally compatible.

[oldbluefox]

In fairness to Jack he is quite good at spinning it in a politician-like way.

[Jack Staff]

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-may-m ... s-11440424

[towny44]

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-may-m ... s-11440424

You would think the London School of Economics would understand the laws of supply and demand. If there is sufficient supply at present to meet all the EU demand including the UK, then if the UK demand is depressed because of the effect of Brexit, whether its higher WTO tariffs or traffic jams in Dover, then there will be over supply in the remaining 27, resulting in a price crash. I wonder what Arla will do with their surplus dairy products then????

[barney]

https://www.politico.eu/article/no-deal ... eresa-may/

So, it appears that France seem pretty chilled about it all.
That's good news, because so am I.

Just two points that I'd make about this article.
First of all, French farmers are very famous for being relaxed and philosophical about any attempt to reduce their privileges, and I am sure they will offer a Gallic shrug at the loss of privileged access to their most lucrative export market.
I’m sure all this talk of French farmers blockading roads and dumping unsold food outside government offices is just Brexiteer scaremongering.

Second, a WTO Brexit will mean the end of the strange situation in which French taxpayers, including their dynamic farmers, have to pay in order to enjoy free access to the UK market.
France is the third biggest net contributor to the EU budget (behind the UK: after Brexit France will be the second biggest contributor), so this is not small beer.
Under WTO terms French taxpayers pay nothing to access the UK market.
Only French companies do by being charged WTO tariffs on their goods.
The same will also apply to UK companies selling into the EU, as UK taxpayers will also stop paying money for access.

Thus in a WTO Brexit the only ‘radical’ impact will be felt throughout the Republic of Ireland and a few sectors in the UK and the EU26.
The UK will get a short-term fiscal boost by saving the 39 billion ‘Remain bill’ (bribe money) and by earning more than twice as much money on WTO tariffs imposed on EU imports than the EU does on British imports.

Over the medium and long term both the UK and EU26 will be fine.
RoI will probably not be so fine.
I think that the EU are hanging them out to dry and they can't see it yet.

[johnds]

>Nobody voted to be poorer!

Wrong again Jack. I was well aware of that possibility but regarded it as a price worth paying

[barney]

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-may-m ... s-11440424

Bit of a paradox going on there Jack.
Arla claim to be UK farmer owned but wiki says that it is a subsidiary of a Swedish/Danish conglomerate.
Can't both be correct can it?

Whatever, as David said in an earlier post, there is miles too much choice in supermarkets these days in my opinion.
I always strive to buy 1. Local. 2. English. 3. British.
I think that everyone who can afford it should do the same, for the environment.

I chuckled at the article I read the other day about the EU financing rebuilding at Rotterdam & Zeebrugge to take Ireland - EU exports by ship, thus cutting France out of the deal. (they strike too much?)
This is so Irish trucks don't have to depend on access to Dover/Hull/Felixstow.
Bloody brilliant I thought. Gets thousands of trucks off our roads so an absolute winner as far as I'm concerned.
Then ….. two things hit me.
Isn't the EU venomously opposed to State subsidy?
So, subsidy by the EU is fine, but not by member States
Secondly … climate change. Is it greener to add about 12 hours to a sea journey by by-passing the French ports.?
I dunno.

As our resident expert on all things EU, what do you think Jack.

[Jack Staff]

Well you guys are really on form this afternoon.

You want to be poorer with less choice in the supermarkets, anything else you think we should lose on your 1950's fantasy joy ride?

I think you will find the majority of the UK population disagree with you.

[oldbluefox]

I think you will find the majority of the UK population disagree with you.

The last time we counted the majority voted to leave. Remember?

[Jack Staff]

I think you will find the majority of the UK population disagree with you.

The last time we counted the majority voted to leave. Remember?

Remember?