Scotlands Referendum.....are we bothered?

[Boris+]

I know it's all a bit 'what if', but if the vote is yes, what about passports - will all the folk in Scotland have to have new passports? If that happened (a yes result), Scotland wouldn't be part of the UK, and it wouldn't be in the EU either? Will passengers still be able to check in?

Em

[Silver_Shiney]

Now there's a question, Em.

My place of birth on my passport is Glasgow, yet I've lived in England for most of my life. Would I get another UK (sorry, Mickey Mouse EU) passport or would I have to get a Salmond chitty?

[Quizzical Bob]

I suspect it would be similar to the situation with Eire. All those born before separation would be entitled to UK passports.

[david63]

Now there's a question, Em.

My place of birth on my passport is Glasgow,

I hope you have your bags packed ready for deportation

But we will still allow you to come on here

[davecttr]

Apparently there will be no recounts however close the vote is, however

It could be a draw

If so this is from the beeb news

So are we back to tossing a coin? There is one more document worth a peek at. It is called the Edinburgh Agreement.

It was signed by Prime Minister David Cameron and the First Minister Alex Salmond in October 2012 and set out the deal for the referendum.

The Agreement sets out that both sides are agreed that the referendum should deliver "a decisive expression of the views of people in Scotland and a result everyone will respect".

I emphasise the bit in bold

[david63]

And how that is interpreted will depend on which side of the fence you happen to be sitting.

[Silver_Shiney]

And how that is interpreted will depend on which side of the fence you happen to be sitting.

Precisely my point. 49/51 is not decisive - I'd be looking for something like 20/80

[barney]

One thing that confuses me with the 'VOW' from the three party leaders is, last time I could remember, the way Parliament worked was that the Bill was proposed and then the members voted on it.

If the leaders promise more devolved powers (and money) to Scotland and Parliament doesn't approve it (and they may not) it's all hot air.

My prediction, on the evidence I've seen is a narrow Yes vote.

Can't wait until Friday and it's all over. It's getting on my bloomin nerves to be honest.

[david63]

Can't wait until Friday and it's all over.

You seriously think, irrespective of the outcome, that it will all be over on Friday and you will hear no more about it?

[towny44]

Can't wait until Friday and it's all over.

You seriously think, irrespective of the outcome, that it will all be over on Friday and you will hear no more about it?

I am on holiday from Saturday so I could avoid the shipboard TV news if I wanted, but I guess I will want to see how the fallout is fairing.

[Quizzical Bob]

Can't wait until Friday and it's all over.

You seriously think, irrespective of the outcome, that it will all be over on Friday and you will hear no more about it?

That's the depressing truth about the matter. We have absolutely no say in it yet we have to suffer all the hot air.

[oldbluefox]

I congratulate Alex Salmond for creating a divided Scotland.

Unfortunately if it is a No vote somebody will be having to pay for all the concessions promised to keep the union together. The more I see and hear from the SNP and their bully boy tactics the more I wish for a Yes vote and we can be rid which is a pity because I actually like (most of) the Scots.

[Quizzical Bob]

I congratulate Alex Salmond for creating a divided Scotland.

Unfortunately if it is a No vote somebody will be having to pay for all the concessions promised to keep the union together. The more I see and hear from the SNP and their bully boy tactics the more I wish for a Yes vote and we can be rid which is a pity because I actually like (most of) the Scots.

I feel sorry for those Scots who are perfectly happy with the current situation. Those I spoke to in May blamed it all on the southern youngsters watching too much Braveheart. This is all down to the megalomaniac ambitions of a very few people and one person in particular. What is going to happen should, God forbid, Salmon drop dead if a heart attack on Friday morning?

[Gill W]

Can't wait until Friday and it's all over. It's getting on my bloomin nerves to be honest.

If it's a yes, Scotland wouldn't just disappear from the UK overnight. It'll be high on the news agendas for ages yet

[Frank Manning]

Unfortunately Gill you are right. There's nothing the media like more than to ram something like this down our throats morning noon and night. I am sick to the back teeth of hearing about it, about Alex Salmond, and about what the latest polls say. I have stopped watching anything but Al Jazeera news, and by heck that is depressing too.

Ostrich? Me?

[oldbluefox]

I'll give you a ring when it's all over Frank, but it could be a while.

I sense the Braveheart factor is leading Scotland to a disaster from which there will be no return. Meanwhile Alex Salmond and his puppet sidekick will find other outlets for their overt nationalist passions, confident their own futures are secure. As a consequence I sense many Scots will be rueing the day they ever set eyes on the pair of them.

[Ray Scully]

I'll give you a ring when it's all over Frank, but it could be a while.

I sense the Braveheart factor is leading Scotland to a disaster from which there will be no return. Meanwhile Alex Salmond and his puppet sidekick will find other outlets for their overt nationalist passions, confident their own futures are secure. As a consequence I sense many Scots will be rueing the day they ever set eyes on the pair of them.

Salmond is aN OPPORTUNIST, he has walked away once before, no doubt he has already got a bolt hole in Sth America in case it all goes pear shaped.

Ray

[Silver_Shiney]

Salmond is aN OPPORTUNIST, he has walked away once before, no doubt he has already got a bolt hole in Sth America in case it all goes pear shaped.

Ray

and we let him back?

[oldbluefox]

Was he Ronnie Biggs' landlord?

[wolfie]

I know it's all a bit 'what if', but if the vote is yes, what about passports - will all the folk in Scotland have to have new passports? If that happened (a yes result), Scotland wouldn't be part of the UK, and it wouldn't be in the EU either? Will passengers still be able to check in?

Em

Exactly, it wouldn't be part of either so yes, passports would be needed, not just by people in Scotland, and what check in????? Cruises departing from Scotland? That's low on the list of my priorities for them leaving the UK, if it's a YES vote tomorrow.

[Onelife]

Having browsed through some of the post on this thread it would seem a 'yes' vote would be bad news for the whole of the UK. This may well be the case but my gut feeling is that if l were Scottish my vote would still be 'Yes'. There would be major hurdles to overcome and l dare say things will get a whole lot worse before the transitional period (which could take several years) has been sorted out. Once this has been achieved l believe Scotland will surge ahead of it's closet neighbours with a spirit that will see them all pulling in the same direction whilst investing for a better Scotland.

As for the scaremongering about companies upping sticks? well, l don't believe this will happen because by nature companies are greedy and they won't turn there backs on new opportunities of which there will be many.

Regards

OL

[Dark Knight]

the knock on effect of a yes vote will be felt for years to come
for some unknown reason, some people seem to think that they will wake up on Friday in a wholly independent Scotland, with it's own currency, identity and everything will be rosy in the garden
the reality is, that within a generation it will be southern Ireland all over again, a second world country, slowly dying and needing a massive bailout to stop it declining into a third world state

this is a farce and should never have got this stage

[Silver_Shiney]

the knock on effect of a yes vote will be felt for years to come
for some unknown reason, some people seem to think that they will wake up on Friday in a wholly independent Scotland, with it's own currency, identity and everything will be rosy in the garden
the reality is, that within a generation it will be southern Ireland all over again, a second world country, slowly dying and needing a massive bailout to stop it declining into a third world state

this is a farce and should never have got this stage

very well said, sir

[towny44]

If some of the financial implications of Scotland either having a loose currency link to Sterling, or their own currency, are correct then the liklihood of Scotland becoming the financial powerhouse that Salmond predicts are way off the mark.
To ensure fiscal probity Scotland will need huge currency reserves which they will only achieve by higher taxes or lower public service spending. Some economists predict several decades of austerity if there is a Yes vote.

[Frank Manning]

There are some great people in Scotland, and I have many Scots friends, but I am sick to the back teeth ot hearing about how hard done by the Scots are, ruled by the evil English (NOT!), and how the skirl of the pipes, and the tartan is going to lead to a brave new world.

Our MP spoke at the AGM of our residents association last night and in the QA session was asked about the referendum. His reply brought great applause. " Whatever the result, if either party is going to offer any more concessions to the Scots, we want the same concessions for the English". I have got to know him in the past couple of years, he is a good MP, and I have confidence that in all this Celtic euphoria, he will be looking out for us.

I wasn't that bothered at the beginning of this fiasco, but now I am heartily sick of it. I feel that I never want to hear the word Scotland again.

Home rule for the Isle of Wight I say!