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Onelife
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Jack Staff wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 00:08
Onelife wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 22:08
Jack Staff wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 17:27
barney wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 16:27
Anyway, why haven't you dissected my previous post and tried to dispute all of those facts. ? :shh:
Sorry Barney, I didn't see any facts.
I can tell you however in that time the petition has gone from 260k to 273,756. Not bad considering that the target is 300k.
Hi Jack...273,756 :lol: ...what about the 15,867,485 who haven't, or more likley can't be bothered to sign the petition?
Hi Keith, only 15,864,422 now.
Well Jack...its taken me all of 43 seconds to register my people's vote (Sh*t what have l done :lol: ) so how come this supposedly massive remain movment/vote has attracted no more than a trickle of them?

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Onelife wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 10:35
Jack Staff wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 00:08
Onelife wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 22:08
Jack Staff wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 17:27

Sorry Barney, I didn't see any facts.
I can tell you however in that time the petition has gone from 260k to 273,756. Not bad considering that the target is 300k.
Hi Jack...273,756 :lol: ...what about the 15,867,485 who haven't, or more likley can't be bothered to sign the petition?
Hi Keith, only 15,864,422 now.
Well Jack...its taken me all of 43 seconds to register my people's vote (Sh*t what have l done :lol: ) so how come this supposedly massive remain movment/vote has attracted no more than a trickle of them?
This is only a very small part of the Bresistance. I imagine you might not of even heard of it but for me.
Only 15,862,334 to go now. Well on target!
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I'm thinking of starting a petition for a re-run of the 1970 election, then maybe we won't join in the first place.

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 11:11
I'm thinking of starting a petition for a re-run of the 1970 election, then maybe we won't join in the first place.
Come on Merv, show some ambition. Why not take this country back to the 1930's? We had Empire day and everything then.
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I suppose that the "Remainers" will want the decision by P&O to remove the service charge reversed!!

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Jack Staff wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 11:30
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 11:11
I'm thinking of starting a petition for a re-run of the 1970 election, then maybe we won't join in the first place.
Come on Merv, show some ambition. Why not take this country back to the 1930's? We had Empire day and everything then.
I'm going to be happy with the 2020's free of the EU thanks Jack. You see you make the mistake of making some very very wrong assumptions about people.

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As the realisation that we are leaving the EU eventually dawns on them they are becoming ever more desperate. Never mind perhaps this will help to soften the shock.
I was taught to be cautious

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As the realisation that we are headinf to another vote eventually dawns on them they are becoming ever more desperate. Never mind perhaps this will help to soften the shock.
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Think they should replay the Cup Final, after all it was such a close result 1-0.
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oldbluefox wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 12:18
As the realisation that we are leaving the EU eventually dawns on them they are becoming ever more desperate. Never mind perhaps this will help to soften the shock.
keep them coming foxy.....you can't beat the old uns :thumbup:

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Jack Staff wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 12:52
As the realisation that we are headinf to another vote eventually dawns on them they are becoming ever more desperate. Never mind perhaps this will help to soften the shock.
keep them coming Jack .......only a few more months and we'll be free :D

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I was reading over the weekend that Greece have just woken up to the fact that when we leave and if there is no trade deal that there will be shortfall in their net receipt - never saw that coming :crazy:

There is a murmuring that other net recipients will also come that realisation and put pressure on to secure a trade deal - nonetheless it gives us a bit of leverage

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david63 wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 13:57
I was reading over the weekend that Greece have just woken up to the fact that when we leave and if there is no trade deal that there will be shortfall in their net receipt - never saw that coming :crazy:

There is a murmuring that other net recipients will also come that realisation and put pressure on to secure a trade deal - nonetheless it gives us a bit of leverage
It dose indeed David, helped also by Greece's reliance on tourism which amounts to 18% of their GDP

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But, but. Jack say's it's all irrelivant, were doomed.!!
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david63 wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 11:42
I suppose that the "Remainers" will want the decision by P&O to remove the service charge reversed!!
Not this Remainer
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Ray Scully wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 17:21
Looking forward immensely to next week and the publication of the GOVERNMENT'S impact assessments. NO MORE Sunny Uplands or Project Fear. Hopefully just real facts to inform and guide.
Me too Ray.

Hopefully some real info, for people to digest and talk about.
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david63 wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 13:57
I was reading over the weekend that Greece have just woken up to the fact that when we leave and if there is no trade deal that there will be shortfall in their net receipt - never saw that coming :crazy:

There is a murmuring that other net recipients will also come that realisation and put pressure on to secure a trade deal - nonetheless it gives us a bit of leverage
I would prefer support from Germany rather than a selection of Bankrupt States … just saying.
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Gill W wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 15:32
Ray Scully wrote: 19 Aug 2018, 17:21
Looking forward immensely to next week and the publication of the GOVERNMENT'S impact assessments. NO MORE Sunny Uplands or Project Fear. Hopefully just real facts to inform and guide.
Me too Ray.

Hopefully some real info, for people to digest and talk about. :thumbup:

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Quite lengthy, but worth a read if you get time.

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... dle-class/

I love the photo of the young 'pretty things' Remainers supping Continental lager from the bottle, and the fat unemployed Leavers sitting in the High Street eating chips.

Biased ??
Fake News ??
Proper Journalism ??

The article does have a point though.
A small minority still can't accept the inevitable, even after two years.
Imagine if Comrade Corbyn had have been in power.
We'd actually be out by now as he was calling for an immediate triggering of Article 50.
And yet, some still think that he will be their saviour.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolic ... ed-middle/

Of course, this could also be true !
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barney wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 17:59
I love the photo of the young 'pretty things' Remainers supping Continental lager from the bottle, and the fat unemployed Leavers sitting in the High Street eating chips.
Larger, chips? I know my preference. But then, I would only eat frites anyway. ;)
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Interesting read barney. I wonder how many Remainers recognise themselves.
We've all heard this before:
"In the case of Brexit, instead of assuming that the Leave camp appraised the situation equally well as the Remain camp, and with equally honorable motives, he said, “the goal-conflict and cognitive dissonance has been resolved by assuming that the Leave camp are — typically speaking but always with exception — stupid, ill-informed and ill-intended . The underlying notion seems to be that they should have listened to ‘their betters’ — rather like naughty school children, if only they had ‘paid more attention in class.’”

Corr says the fact that many working-class people have been subject to this attitude for much of their lives “made the kick up the backside of ‘their betters’ all the more enjoyable.” ( :lol: :lol: )
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barney wrote: 20 Aug 2018, 17:59
Quite lengthy, but worth a read if you get time.

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... dle-class/

I love the photo of the young 'pretty things' Remainers supping Continental lager from the bottle, and the fat unemployed Leavers sitting in the High Street eating chips.

Biased ??
Fake News ??
Proper Journalism ??

The article does have a point though.
A small minority still can't accept the inevitable, even after two years.
Imagine if Comrade Corbyn had have been in power.
We'd actually be out by now as he was calling for an immediate triggering of Article 50.
And yet, some still think that he will be their saviour.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolic ... ed-middle/

Of course, this could also be true !
Hi Barney...l thought this gentleman's comments sums it up very well.....

Education and Common Sense are two different things. You don’t have to be well-educated to have common sense.

The majority of the populace has “Common Sense”, which tells you that self-governing is always greater than being governed from afar.

Cary Michael Cox


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Interesting! the reality of the situation as unveiled in today's government advice on leaving the EU without a deal.


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Now I am really worried.

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Golden Princess wrote: 23 Aug 2018, 20:14
Now I am really worried.
I'm actually not worried at all.
The UK should have taken this stance the day after Article 50 was triggered, instead of feebly trying to convince the EU that a deal is in all interests.
Had our government done this, then we would have had two years to prepare for normal trading terms, or strike an agreement.
It is only very recently that the EU has started to take it seriously as they genuinely thought that the UK would capitulate.

For the past 2 years and 2 months exactly, the EU has followed a strategic choice either to persuade the UK to reverse Brexit or to try to manoeuvre the UK into a Brexit which leaves it under the control of the EU. For the past months this has amounted to a choice of either indefinite EU customs union and single market membership (‘BRINO’) or placing part of the UK under EU control (Northern Ireland) in order dictate future EU-GB trading relations indefinitely.
There was never any serious EU attempts to consider ‘future relations’ as those being between two independent and sovereign parties, namely the EU and UK. Proof of such consideration would have been the outline of a possible UK-EU free trade agreement (using Canada or South Korea as a model).
For all these reasons there will not be a Brexit deal.
The reasons for this are entirely to do with the EU which for reasons of ideology and brinkmanship refused to understand that it was negotiating with an important country which was leaving the EU entirely, not trying to ‘cherry-pick’ EU membership.
Thus there are no serious or acceptable offers from the EU for a Brexit deal.
So,there will be no deal. It’s really that simple.

The scare mongering will no doubt reach fever pitch and continue right up until we leave.
Hammond saying that the UK economy 'could' shrink by X amount over X years is utter garbage.
They cannot correctly predict one quarter in advance.
To find an accurate financial forecast is as rare as hens teeth, be it the Tresuary, the IMF or the OECD.
By now, we are supposed to be in deep recession with a million more unemployed.
The Remoaniacs seem to overlook the fact that all past predictions have so far failed.

We'll leave, things will be different for a little while, then the world will just get on with it.


When the CEO of Danepak was asked for his 'no deal' comments, he said that they have been trading very successfully with the UK for 130 years.
They have survived two world wars and numerous recessions. He was sure that Brexit would not make that much of a difference.
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