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Brexit
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Gill W
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Re: Brexit
They were going to release the document giving details of their plans
Then they decided not to.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter now. Things are moving on as we speak.
What I'm reading now is that May is going to give up on Chequers, if EU reject it in Salzburg next week.
Then they decided not to.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter now. Things are moving on as we speak.
What I'm reading now is that May is going to give up on Chequers, if EU reject it in Salzburg next week.
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Gill
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Onelife
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Re: Brexit
If Theresa is going to give up on the Chequers plan l hope she makes it abundantly clear that this isn't a "bluff" decision as the time for playing games has to stop, she needs to leave the EU in no doubt that rejecting the Chequers plan will be an end game decision for them also.
liar liar tounges on fire......
We then wait a few weeks and see what they come back with once they start seeing the backlash from the many businesses that rely on UK trade deals.
We still have a couple of options open to us but the more l read about what would be involved the more l think Chequers is the best option for the UK.
liar liar tounges on fire......
We then wait a few weeks and see what they come back with once they start seeing the backlash from the many businesses that rely on UK trade deals.
We still have a couple of options open to us but the more l read about what would be involved the more l think Chequers is the best option for the UK.
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Gill W
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Re: Brexit
Now I read that the ERG is plotting to overthrow May.
It’s like they are all playing Game of Thrones, and like you say Keith, the time for game playing is over.
It’s like they are all playing Game of Thrones, and like you say Keith, the time for game playing is over.
Gill
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
You do all realise that most of these news stories are the result of behind the scenes press briefings from the various brexit and remain groups, and of course highlight the worst case scenarios that might happen if a certain path was followed.
Much better to ignore the lot and just wait and see what really happens, all this second guessing leads us nowhere and just heightens the concerns of everyone; and a bit like Hammond's suggestion that fuel duty might need to be raised to pay for the extra NHS funding, they are designed to gauge public opinion and learn which option might be least onerous.
Much better to ignore the lot and just wait and see what really happens, all this second guessing leads us nowhere and just heightens the concerns of everyone; and a bit like Hammond's suggestion that fuel duty might need to be raised to pay for the extra NHS funding, they are designed to gauge public opinion and learn which option might be least onerous.
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John
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Manoverboard
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Re: Brexit
Tis what that nice Mr Trump would call " Fake News ", ignore it and wait for official notifications from No 10.
ps … Plan B is to select suitable bits that suit else make it up as you go along … and worry yourself to death
ps … Plan B is to select suitable bits that suit else make it up as you go along … and worry yourself to death
Keep smiling, it's good for your well being
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Onelife
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Re: Brexit
Hi John/mob,
There are 39 pages of opinion and speculation on this thread many of which have been contributed by your good selves.....pot calling the kettle black springs to mind

There are 39 pages of opinion and speculation on this thread many of which have been contributed by your good selves.....pot calling the kettle black springs to mind
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Gill W
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Re: Brexit
What’s happening appears to change every 5 minutes.
So yes, let’s wait for something real to actually happen.
I am now getting ready for my holiday, so I intend to put this sorry mess out of my mind for a few weeks.
I get back to Southampton on 10th October, and fully expect no further Brexit progress will be made while I’m away.
However I expect this thread to have grown by several pages while everyone carries on speculating, and picking out the bits of news that they like !
So yes, let’s wait for something real to actually happen.
I am now getting ready for my holiday, so I intend to put this sorry mess out of my mind for a few weeks.
I get back to Southampton on 10th October, and fully expect no further Brexit progress will be made while I’m away.
However I expect this thread to have grown by several pages while everyone carries on speculating, and picking out the bits of news that they like !
Gill
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
I am not criticising anyone and fully accept my own contributions have not always been well received by the remain camp. But as we approach the end game I feel that maybe a little quiet reflection is the better way to go, and I will therefore try to remain neutral, whilst still a positive leaver.Onelife wrote: 12 Sep 2018, 11:32Hi John/mob,
There are 39 pages of opinion and speculation on this thread many of which have been contributed by your good selves.....pot calling the kettle black springs to mind![]()
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John
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Manoverboard
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Re: Brexit
The number of pages will depend how you are set up … some will have more and some will have less … just like the Brexit Topic itself your number is misleadingtowny44 wrote: 12 Sep 2018, 11:58I am not criticising anyone and fully accept my own contributions have not always been well received by the remain camp. But as we approach the end game I feel that maybe a little quiet reflection is the better way to go, and I will therefore try to remain neutral, whilst still a positive leaver.Onelife wrote: 12 Sep 2018, 11:32Hi John/mob,
There are 39 pages of opinion and speculation on this thread many of which have been contributed by your good selves.....pot calling the kettle black springs to mind![]()
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Keep smiling, it's good for your well being
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Onelife
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Re: Brexit
Manoverboard wrote: 12 Sep 2018, 16:53The number of pages will depend how you are set up … some will have more and some will have less … just like the Brexit Topic itself your number is misleadingtowny44 wrote: 12 Sep 2018, 11:58I am not criticising anyone and fully accept my own contributions have not always been well received by the remain camp. But as we approach the end game I feel that maybe a little quiet reflection is the better way to go, and I will therefore try to remain neutral, whilst still a positive leaver.Onelife wrote: 12 Sep 2018, 11:32Hi John/mob,
There are 39 pages of opinion and speculation on this thread many of which have been contributed by your good selves.....pot calling the kettle black springs to mind![]()
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That's the biggest load of 'number' ones l have ever read![]()
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
What a good idea this Brexit is. The bonfire of red tape ....
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... rexit-deal
I know is it's fine, because non of you would ever consider driving on the mainland.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... rexit-deal
I know is it's fine, because non of you would ever consider driving on the mainland.
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Onelife
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Re: Brexit
Jack Staff wrote: 13 Sep 2018, 18:52What a good idea this Brexit is. The bonfire of red tape ....
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... rexit-deal
I know is it's fine, because non of you would ever consider driving on the mainland.
Hi Jack.....hope you had an enjoyable break?
Ok' it might entail a journey to find your nearest post office but once there you can purchase all the IDP's necessary for your European tour. If you intend touring eight countries it will cost less than a tank of petrol.....
hopefully it won't be a route we have to take?
Keith
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
"AA pointing out that people driving to France then Spain after a No Deal would need two different International Driving Permits after a No Deal Brexit and points to NAO report doubting Post Office capacity to issue 7 million permits." Faisal IslamOnelife wrote: 13 Sep 2018, 19:38Jack Staff wrote: 13 Sep 2018, 18:52What a good idea this Brexit is. The bonfire of red tape ....
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... rexit-deal
I know is it's fine, because non of you would ever consider driving on the mainland.
Hi Jack.....hope you had an enjoyable break?![]()
Ok' it might entail a journey to find your nearest post office but once there you can purchase all the IDP's necessary for your European tour. If you intend touring eight countries it will cost less than a tank of petrol.....
hopefully it won't be a route we have to take?
Keith
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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screwy
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Re: Brexit
The last section regarding EU licence holders says it all,....How welcoming we are to our friends, obviously cant be said of that lot.
And Jack, I spent 16 yrs driving around Europe and not in a car.
And Jack, I spent 16 yrs driving around Europe and not in a car.
Mel
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
You should have bought a map.screwy wrote: 13 Sep 2018, 19:46The last section regarding EU licence holders says it all,....How welcoming we are to our friends, obviously cant be said of that lot.
And Jack, I spent 16 yrs driving around Europe and not in a car.
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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screwy
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
What a fuss about nothing. Having lived in the Fatherland for 15 years we were very accustomed to International Driving Licences, Green cards etc all obtained through our friendly ADAC, the German driving association. It's a non story but of course, our media will make a mountain out of a molehill. 
I can't believe that as a nation we have become so incompetent that we feel we can't cope with something as simple as this, which the Germans managed all those years ago, or that we have become so reliant on being spoon fed by the EU that we can no longer manage and are expected to run around like headless chickens at the very thought. Isn't it time we got a grip!!!?
I can't believe that as a nation we have become so incompetent that we feel we can't cope with something as simple as this, which the Germans managed all those years ago, or that we have become so reliant on being spoon fed by the EU that we can no longer manage and are expected to run around like headless chickens at the very thought. Isn't it time we got a grip!!!?
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I was taught to be cautious
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
Preferably around Junckers neck.oldbluefox wrote: 13 Sep 2018, 20:56What a fuss about nothing. Having lived in the Fatherland for 15 years we were very accustomed to International Driving Licences, Green cards etc all obtained through our friendly ADAC, the German driving association. It's a non story but of course, our media will make a mountain out of a molehill.
I can't believe that as a nation we have become so incompetent that we feel we can't cope with something as simple as this, which the Germans managed all those years ago, or that we have become so reliant on being spoon fed by the EU that we can no longer manage and are expected to run around like headless chickens at the very thought. Isn't it time we got a grip!!!?
John
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Ray Scully
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Re: Brexit
The good news is that if house prices take a hit at least it will not effect the poorest among us, who generally don't own their own home.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -csgr9j0hj
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -csgr9j0hj
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Gill W
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Re: Brexit
From the 'passport' thread
I've seen nothing, apart from John's comment, to indicate that the EU won't accept passports with a term that's too LONG.
The EU clearly accepts passports now with more than 10 years validity, so why should this change after Brexit.
This sounds like a Project Fear thing to me, so I'd be grateful if a link could be supplied to the source of this information.
Thanks
The reports I've seen suggest that people renew older passports to make sure that the term left is not too short.johnds wrote: 14 Sep 2018, 07:19'Tis true
EU will reject passports with more than ten years validity
I've seen nothing, apart from John's comment, to indicate that the EU won't accept passports with a term that's too LONG.
The EU clearly accepts passports now with more than 10 years validity, so why should this change after Brexit.
This sounds like a Project Fear thing to me, so I'd be grateful if a link could be supplied to the source of this information.
Thanks
Gill
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
On another forum it says it's is to do with Schengen, non Schengen countries have this 10 year limit applied, we currently escape this because we are EU members, but that may be equally untrue although it seems too much of a coincidence that its happening now as no deal policy is being reviewed.Gill W wrote: 14 Sep 2018, 10:04From the 'passport' thread
The reports I've seen suggest that people renew older passports to make sure that the term left is not too short.johnds wrote: 14 Sep 2018, 07:19'Tis true
EU will reject passports with more than ten years validity
I've seen nothing, apart from John's comment, to indicate that the EU won't accept passports with a term that's too LONG.
The EU clearly accepts passports now with more than 10 years validity, so why should this change after Brexit.
This sounds like a Project Fear thing to me, so I'd be grateful if a link could be supplied to the source of this information.
Thanks
John
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Onelife
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Re: Brexit
Ray Scully wrote: 13 Sep 2018, 23:35The good news is that if house prices take a hit at least it will not effect the poorest among us, who generally don't own their own home.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -csgr9j0hj
The flip side to that Ray is that it will allow first time buyers the chance to get onto the housing ladder instead of wasting their money on rented properties.
Mortgages may increase but most will l presume take on mortgages that take this into account....fixed etc.
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
Here is a link about what could happen in the event of no deal.Gill W wrote: 14 Sep 2018, 10:04From the 'passport' thread
The reports I've seen suggest that people renew older passports to make sure that the term left is not too short.johnds wrote: 14 Sep 2018, 07:19'Tis true
EU will reject passports with more than ten years validity
I've seen nothing, apart from John's comment, to indicate that the EU won't accept passports with a term that's too LONG.
The EU clearly accepts passports now with more than 10 years validity, so why should this change after Brexit.
This sounds like a Project Fear thing to me, so I'd be grateful if a link could be supplied to the source of this information.
Thanks
I was taught to be cautious
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Ray Scully
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Re: Brexit
Yes Oneline that would be a definite advantage, albeit it will hit the kids inheritance a tad, but they cant blame me, being a Remoaner. Interestingly and regarding mortgages, a neihbour had a revaluation last week to remortgage, the result a valuation 20% below the current going resale price. the reason "uncertain financial market conditions"Onelife wrote: 14 Sep 2018, 10:15Ray Scully wrote: 13 Sep 2018, 23:35The good news is that if house prices take a hit at least it will not effect the poorest among us, who generally don't own their own home.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -csgr9j0hj
The flip side to that Ray is that it will allow first time buyers the chance to get onto the housing ladder instead of wasting their money on rented properties.
Mortgages may increase but most will l presume take on mortgages that take this into account....fixed etc.
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Onelife
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Re: Brexit
Hi Ray....l think we are looking at worst case scenarios. Carney was probably saying what could happen not what will happen at the government meeting yesterday.
