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If Jeremy Corbyn believes he can negotiate peace terms with the Islamic fundermentalists then he needs his bloody head looking at... nevertheless if he can through some of his far left policies create a platform for the emergence of new political party then l'm right behind him.

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Goodbye to the moderate Labour Party, hello the born again Loony Left :thumbdown:

Corbyn Sweeps To Victory With 59.5% Of Vote ....

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/corbyn-labour ... ml#JPT5WuL
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People, just how far into the sand are your heads? :silent:

All the pundits, press and so called labour party MP’s just keep saying that with the election of Jeremy Corbyn they will never be elected to office again. :twisted: :twisted:

That was not what this was all about today!!

As in Scotland the people of the Labour Party voted for he who would speak out for socialist values. In Scotland it was not for independence, that was dismissed earlier, nor was it for government, it was for those who would speak up for them. This is exactly what has happened today within the Labour Party.

Joe blogs in the street is not looking for power. It is only those who wanted nomination and election to Westminster who shout we will never win. They only seek advancement and power for themselves. The man in the street is not interested in being in government, they only want, truth, and justice and to be treated fairly. This is what true socialism stands for!!

For too long now, we in the UK have accepted the domination of the majority by the minority. It is the classical evolution of an animal. He seeks initially only to feed himself, then realises that if he gets others to do it for him then he can cast his thoughts and seek his pleasures elsewhere. After that, when he has all he needs to live a good life and gets bored he sees that this has given him power over others and it feels good. When this is not enough and he again gets bored he turns to acquiring knowledge.

This is classical behaviour and was first documented within the old Jewish hidden secrets known as Kabbalah.

So what you are now seeing is yet another attempt at a seed change in the evolution of mankind. It has been tried before and failed. I fear the same will probably happen once again.

Mans greed and desire for power is just far too strong. :cry: :cry:
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Those who wish to lean to the far left, as they are certainly entitled to do, should do so by standing for what they believe in within a Socialist Party of their own creation rather than trying to piggy back onto the back of a Labour Party that attempts, attempted, to represent ALL the citizens of this Country.

For the most part those who voted were hard core activists and they certainly do not represent the best interests of the working man. A head in sand opinion ... I don't think so as it was one based on real life experience rather than any form of propaganda.
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What you appear to dismiss Moby is that it is the people, the majority who want change. They want the Labour Party back!!
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What you appear to dismiss Moby is that it is the people, the majority who want change. They want the Labour Party back!!
The majority of those in the Labour Party eligible for a leadership vote, not the majority of the country.

And what's this about the domination of the majority by the minority? On total votes cast in the General Election the number voting centre to right was pretty much the same as the number voting centre to left. But the important factor is the vast majority were not on either extreme but close to the centre.

On that basis Labour just made themselves unelectable. I imagine the Conservatives are delighted.


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Agreed Mervyn, and I think we all know by now that all extremists conveniently ignore the truth, even when it is obvious to the rest of us. When it finally bites them they creep away in a sulk and write biassed and bigoted memoirs. Or rant at how no one understood them. They are right in that at least. From the twaddle Corbyn comes out with he is flirting with treason on occasions, and at least warrants MI5 keeping an eye on him.

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I'm sorry Frank, that really is right-wing garbage. :yawn: :yawn:
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And is that a reasoned left wing argument? Just saying.......

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I wouldn't mind earwigging in a corridor at Labour HQ. Corbyn has plenty of left wing emotive ideals but little idea of who is going to pay for them or where the money is coming from. Would the general populace trust him with the economy? Immigration policy? Foreign policy?
In my time I have come across a good many card carrying Labour activists and have generally found they are very good at spending wasting other people's money on their own pipe dreams.
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Trotskys R Us ... just saying :clap:

It is the end of the Labour Party as we once knew it, at least we ' could ' respect it in the Blair era or beyond ( bar Michael Foot ) even if we didn't agree with it but no longer I fear.

ITWA ... I don't know who you mix with but I haven't had a conversation with friends about the halcyon days of Communism since goodness knows when. Where on earth do you get the information that the whole of the UK is waiting for the appointment of Ken Livingston and chums :lol:
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I think Corbyn's strongest card was that he represented something different compared to three inadequates who were proposing much the same policies, most of which were not too dissimilar to those of the government. Understandable really since although we may not like what they are doing, in our present situation we have little choice.
We shall have to wait and see but one would have thought the experiences of Alexis Tsipras and his far left Greek government may have taught him something about being too radically left wing and whilst the rhetoric sounds good the pragmatism of reality is very different.
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I'm sorry Frank, that really is right-wing garbage. :yawn: :yawn:

and that, my friend, is left-wing nonsense.
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Now that the Labour Party is firmly in the hands of the Left.

Or as some would now say the Tom & Jerry show.

David Cameron must be kicking himself he decided to step down before the next general election. :wave:

I see Corbyn is already chickening out of Prime Ministers question time, wants other MPs to speak, rather than him.
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In recent years PMQ has largely been a farce of heckling and name calling from both sides of the house.

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After reading today papers it appears that the long knives are already out for Corbyn

Mt bet is that he will be gone in two years and a moderate like Chukka Umuna or possibly even the sensible Miliband will be leading Labour into the next election.

I'll be very interested to see his first shadow cabinet though.
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I think it more likely that NuLabour will hold a leadership contest and Corbyn and the other Trotskyist members will branch off into a more formal communist/socialist party.
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I'm sorry Frank, that really is right-wing garbage. :yawn: :yawn:
Since you do not know my politics ITWA I suggest that you read what I said more carefully and consider whether it mentions either left or right. I said extremists, and that could equally apply to Hitler, who, had the German people not been hoodwinked might have been tried for treason by his own people. Extremists ignore the truth, Left or Right. Hitler retired to sulk in his bunker, ranting at how the German people had failed him. Stalin was reportedly as paranoid as Hitler, purging many, so too Mao Tse Tung, in the 'cultural rvolution. All three were keen on eliminating opponents and creating a culture of fear.

Corbyn and his fellow travellers, will no doubt try to temporarily distance themselves from some of their more extreme ramblings. However in your apparent dislike of Tories do not blind yourself to the damage, which, If Corbyn is unchecked he could be doing to democratic one nation socialists. Not to mention the damage he could do to our country (The whole UK) if he starts courting ISIS, Al Qaeda, Putin etc.

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