Another starting word, when answering a question is "Look". I first noticed it several months ago; it appears to be Southern Hemisphere sportsmen who favour it, but I've also noticed UK politicians using it recently too. It's often used as a passive-aggressive start to a reply to a difficult question, in order to enforce their point.anneed wrote:Is it just me or have others noticed a new speech trend whereby people begin with the word 'So' when answering questions? Now that I've become aware of it I seem to hear it all the time. Where has this come from? It's as annoying as people using an upward inflection turning every statement into a question.
So (see what I did there?) what quirks of language get on your nerves? (And the overuse of the word 'like' is a given.)
So what?
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Romig1
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anniec
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And why is everything now 'iconic'?
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Ranchi
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Look, Romig. Look up Tony Blair on YouTube. He was the first to irritate me with 'look'. I think it's just rude.
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Stephen
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Always said you were full of the brown stuff, but it sounds like not at the moment. I shouldn't mock, it must be horrible. Hope it settles down soon and nursey is looking after you wellOnelife wrote:For obvious reasons l generally run for cover when threads such as this appear, but hey! as l am lying here wondering if my 32 in 12 hour visits to the loo have made it into the Guinness book of records l thought l would add my two pence worth.
Please don't see this as a criticism of what has already been said, but none of you have given any leeway to those who suffer with Dyslexia....and l do mean suffer because only those who are affected by it, or have some knowledge about it can really understand what a devastating effect it can have on your life. What appears to be bad grammar, careless spelling, etc often goes unoticed to many with dyslexia (Even having read the same passage of text several times) Thankfully these days, once diagnosed dyslexic sufferers have access to many aids that can help them compensate for their difficulties.
Having said all that l do think poor verbal and write grammar isn't something that should be encouraged and l do wonder if present day texting plays a part in why a lot of kids don't speak the Queens language like wot l do.
And just before l make my 42 visit to the loo we should not forget that most dialects have originated from what some would perceive as lazy vocabulary....amongst other thing of course.
Regards
Shity pants.
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The Tinker
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The most annoying habit my OH has is when I ask a question, he will always reply 'Why?' - just answer the question, don't analyse it!!!!
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Onelife
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All pooped out now but feeling as if one of my 'donkeys' has kicked me in the chest. Not eaten up yet but will hopefully get my head into the nosebag tomorrow.Stephen wrote:Always said you were full of the brown stuff, but it sounds like not at the moment. I shouldn't mock, it must be horrible. Hope it settles down soon and nursey is looking after you wellOnelife wrote:For obvious reasons l generally run for cover when threads such as this appear, but hey! as l am lying here wondering if my 32 in 12 hour visits to the loo have made it into the Guinness book of records l thought l would add my two pence worth.
Please don't see this as a criticism of what has already been said, but none of you have given any leeway to those who suffer with Dyslexia....and l do mean suffer because only those who are affected by it, or have some knowledge about it can really understand what a devastating effect it can have on your life. What appears to be bad grammar, careless spelling, etc often goes unoticed to many with dyslexia (Even having read the same passage of text several times) Thankfully these days, once diagnosed dyslexic sufferers have access to many aids that can help them compensate for their difficulties.
Having said all that l do think poor verbal and write grammar isn't something that should be encouraged and l do wonder if present day texting plays a part in why a lot of kids don't speak the Queens language like wot l do.
And just before l make my 42 visit to the loo we should not forget that most dialects have originated from what some would perceive as lazy vocabulary....amongst other thing of course.
Regards
Shity pants.
As for the other brown stuff services should resume shortly.
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AnnCAgain
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Re: So what?
My beef is with verb conjugations. For example - "The Government are considering..."
How may governments do we have?
How may governments do we have?
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Raybosailor
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I had to laugh at the topic on BBC Breakfast in the week where Southerners were complaining that they couldn't understand the northern dialect in the crime series Happy Valley.
Can all those south of Watford Gap explain where the following words appear in the English dictionary:
Bas as in bus
San as in son or sun
Barf as in bath
Mait as in mate
I could go on but I think you get mi drift mi ducks, we all have our own dialect depending on where we are born innit ?
Its a sign of the times when the intelligent text on smartphones suggest shortcuts like ru and ur .
Nuff sed.
Can all those south of Watford Gap explain where the following words appear in the English dictionary:
Bas as in bus
San as in son or sun
Barf as in bath
Mait as in mate
I could go on but I think you get mi drift mi ducks, we all have our own dialect depending on where we are born innit ?
Its a sign of the times when the intelligent text on smartphones suggest shortcuts like ru and ur .
Nuff sed.
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Quizzical Bob
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'Government' is one of those words which can be used in both the singular and the plural sense. Football clubs also fall into this category, such as:AnnCAgain wrote:My beef is with verb conjugations. For example - "The Government are considering..."
How may governments do we have?
'Manchester United is one of the largest clubs in the world.'
'Manchester United are about the appoint Jose Mourinho as their new manager.'
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Stephen
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Raybosailor wrote:I had to laugh at the topic on BBC Breakfast in the week where Southerners were complaining that they couldn't understand the northern dialect in the crime series Happy Valley.
Can all those south of Watford Gap explain where the following words appear in the English dictionary:
Bas as in bus
San as in son or sun
Barf as in bath
Mait as in mate
I could go on but I think you get mi drift mi ducks, we all have our own dialect depending on where we are born innit ?
Its a sign of the times when the intelligent text on smartphones suggest shortcuts like ru and ur .
Nuff sed.
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anniec
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From this southerner's point of view, the problem wasn't the accent/dialect. It was the mumbling.Raybosailor wrote:I had to laugh at the topic on BBC Breakfast in the week where Southerners were complaining that they couldn't understand the northern dialect in the crime series Happy Valley.
Can all those south of Watford Gap explain where the following words appear in the English dictionary:
Bas as in bus
San as in son or sun
Barf as in bath
Mait as in mate
I could go on but I think you get mi drift mi ducks, we all have our own dialect depending on where we are born innit ?
Its a sign of the times when the intelligent text on smartphones suggest shortcuts like ru and ur .
Nuff sed.
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towny44
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I agree Annie, I thought Sarah Lancashire by tucking her chin into her uniform collar was almost incomprehensible, and James Norton (Tommy Lee Royce) was trying to do a Marlon Brando and I could barely understand a word he was saying, and I live close enough to be an extra on the series.anniec wrote:From this southerner's point of view, the problem wasn't the accent/dialect. It was the mumbling.Raybosailor wrote:I had to laugh at the topic on BBC Breakfast in the week where Southerners were complaining that they couldn't understand the northern dialect in the crime series Happy Valley.
Can all those south of Watford Gap explain where the following words appear in the English dictionary:
Bas as in bus
San as in son or sun
Barf as in bath
Mait as in mate
I could go on but I think you get mi drift mi ducks, we all have our own dialect depending on where we are born innit ?
Its a sign of the times when the intelligent text on smartphones suggest shortcuts like ru and ur .
Nuff sed.
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kaymar
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towny44 wrote:anniec wrote:I agree Annie, I thought Sarah Lancashire by tucking her chin into her uniform collar was almost incomprehensible, and James Norton (Tommy Lee Royce) was trying to do a Marlon Brando and I could barely understand a word he was saying, and I live close enough to be an extra on the series.Raybosailor wrote:I had to laugh at the topic on BBC Breakfast in the week where Southerners were complaining that they couldn't understand the northern dialect in the crime series Happy Valley.
From this southerner's point of view, the problem wasn't the accent/dialect. It was the mumbling.
Thank heaven for that - I thought it was my hearing. I have rarely ventured South of Watford and have no problem with any Northern dialect but I have difficulty in catching a lot of the dialogue on Happy Valley, to the extent that I may well not bother watching it again.
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kaymar
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And "deffo" is another recent, ever more common irritation - I've even seen it used on here!
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Manoverboard
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Well, you rest assured that if any of us Mods spot such an occurrence we'll deffo try to stamp it outkaymar wrote:And "deffo" is another recent, ever more common irritation - I've even seen it used on here!
Keep smiling, it's good for your well being
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Mervyn and Trish
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You should of done that before Moby. You could of. You know. Whatever.
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towny44
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Grrr GrrrrMervyn and Trish wrote:You should of done that before Moby. You could of. You know. Whatever.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Irony John. Irony.towny44 wrote:Grrr GrrrrMervyn and Trish wrote:You should of done that before Moby. You could of. You know. Whatever.![]()
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Aha! Found this in the 'Answers to Correspondents' in the Daily Mail: "The expression 'you know' as an interjection is what is known as a 'phatic utterance' and is used to maintain the flow of speech. Expressions such as 'like' or 'sort of' serve the same purpose. Many radio interviewees now begin an answer with the word 'so'."
So there you are - it's just another phatic utterance!
So there you are - it's just another phatic utterance!
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oldbluefox
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Thankfully a good dose of Gaviscon and Windeze should cure it.anneed wrote:Aha! Found this in the 'Answers to Correspondents' in the Daily Mail: "The expression 'you know' as an interjection is what is known as a 'phatic utterance' and is used to maintain the flow of speech. Expressions such as 'like' or 'sort of' serve the same purpose. Many radio interviewees now begin an answer with the word 'so'."
So there you are - it's just another phatic utterance!
I was taught to be cautious
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Mervyn and Trish
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Irritating nonetheless. Deffo.
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Stephen
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You know....blah blah... you know.....blah blah.....you know. NO I DON'T KNOW
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kaymar
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Mervyn and Trish wrote:Irritating nonetheless. Deffo.
That's him, Moby the Mod. Do your stuff
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Very unique, grates.