P&O have said that we can downgrade to a window cabin or move to a cabin near the smoking areas, Thanks for nothing P&O. Why is it that they listen to those who complain about smoking but never about anything else. The prices keep going up but the enjoyment factor keeps going down.
Stick to your guns Tb.. We did on a previous occasion when they stopped smoking in the entertainment venues; got a full refund.
I went to the hairdresser yesterday - another stylist using the next chair must have gone outside for a cigarette because I suddenly became aware of the smell when she returned. (I wear glasses and had removed them so didn't see her go out). I do wish smokers would realise that it is about the health issues, not because non-smokers want to spoil their fun. By all means smoke in designated areas, but please, stick to the rules.
But, from your anecdote above there were no health implications to you. You could only smell the smoke on her clothing etc presumably.... you weren't breathing any smoke yourself.
I went to the hairdresser yesterday - another stylist using the next chair must have gone outside for a cigarette because I suddenly became aware of the smell when she returned. (I wear glasses and had removed them so didn't see her go out). I do wish smokers would realise that it is about the health issues, not because non-smokers want to spoil their fun. By all means smoke in designated areas, but please, stick to the rules.
But, from your anecdote above there were no health implications to you. You could only smell the smoke on her clothing etc presumably.... you weren't breathing any smoke yourself.
A lot of good arguments are spoiled by some fool who knows what he is talking about.
Yes, Romig, but I wondered if the smoke clinging to her clothes does have implications? I was breathing in something surely? In any case, it was unpleasant.
I've come up with a great way for the Government to deter people from smoking.
On Friday we were returning from a long holiday in France. Whilst getting on to a busy train at a Paris RER station hubby had his back pocket picked by an undesireable. Stupid hubby I hear you cry - however hubby had earlier placed all his valuables in his 'body belt' before setting off & the thief actually acquired - a pouch full of tobacco! I would have loved to have seen the thief's face when he opened his ill gotten gains!!
So my idea is this - the government rounds up all the purse dippers/pick pockets (usually illegal immigrants) and gets them to only steal tobacco related items from people's pockets & bags. They then take said items to a Govt department & in return they get another week free gratis to live off the state & not get deported. People will get so fed up having to replace their stolen ciggies, pipes etc that they will decide it's not worth bothering to smoke anymore. Meanwhile our more important possessions are safe from thieves and the scoundrels are doing something good for the country!!!
Will it work? Oh - and hubby has learned lots of French swear words since Friday but no Rumanian ones - can anyone assist?
I've come up with a great way for the Government to deter people from smoking.
On Friday we were returning from a long holiday in France. Whilst getting on to a busy train at a Paris RER station hubby had his back pocket picked by an undesireable. Stupid hubby I hear you cry - however hubby had earlier placed all his valuables in his 'body belt' before setting off & the thief actually acquired - a pouch full of tobacco! I would have loved to have seen the thief's face when he opened his ill gotten gains!!
So my idea is this - the government rounds up all the purse dippers/pick pockets (usually illegal immigrants) and gets them to only steal tobacco related items from people's pockets & bags. They then take said items to a Govt department & in return they get another week free gratis to live off the state & not get deported. People will get so fed up having to replace their stolen ciggies, pipes etc that they will decide it's not worth bothering to smoke anymore. Meanwhile our more important possessions are safe from thieves and the scoundrels are doing something good for the country!!!
Will it work? Oh - and hubby has learned lots of French swear words since Friday but no Rumanian ones - can anyone assist?
Well AngieT
I, grudgingly have to admire the perpetrators. Nicking stuff from Yorkshire folk aint easy.
I went to the hairdresser yesterday - another stylist using the next chair must have gone outside for a cigarette because I suddenly became aware of the smell when she returned. (I wear glasses and had removed them so didn't see her go out). I do wish smokers would realise that it is about the health issues, not because non-smokers want to spoil their fun. By all means smoke in designated areas, but please, stick to the rules.
But, from your anecdote above there were no health implications to you. You could only smell the smoke on her clothing etc presumably.... you weren't breathing any smoke yourself.
There is nothing worse than smelling the odour of someone having just had a smoke, it makes me heave. I have had the experience of doctors, nurse even a dentist and retail staff who have reared of having recently had a smoke.
So although no health issues had occurred for some people it can still be an unpleasant experience. So I have every sympathy for those having to breath in this smell.
On 29th July I booked a cruise for next April - 14 nights Western Med in April on Azura. For the first time in years we have booked a balcony cabin having spotted a fairly good deal. Then afterwards I started worrying about the possibility of there being a smoker in the next door cabin and whether it would affect our use of the balcony and should I have just stuck to an outside cabin.
So you can imagine how happy I was to hear the news
On 29th July I booked a cruise for next April - 14 nights Western Med in April on Azura. For the first time in years we have booked a balcony cabin having spotted a fairly good deal. Then afterwards I started worrying about the possibility of there being a smoker in the next door cabin and whether it would affect our use of the balcony and should I have just stuck to an outside cabin.
So you can imagine how happy I was to hear the news
Michele
For every winner there is usually a loser. However enjoy your balcony Michele
We have only been on 6 cruises but always with a balcony. To date we have never had any problems with smokers. Must just be lucky. Hope it holds out for no: 7.
Smokers, try Princess, they seem to a least considering the smoker with well ventilated cigar lounges on most ships and the following e-cig policy "Electronic Cigarettes
The use of electronic cigarettes is permitted in all areas onboard with the exception of dining areas and the Princess Theater. However, should a fellow passenger in the vicinity feel inconvenienced and complain, even after being told the difference between electronic cigarettes and real cigarettes, we will ask the passenger to refrain from smoking the electronic cigarette."
Given the time P&O had to implement their latest smoking policy you would have thought they could have made a better job of it OR WOULD YOU?
From posts on P&O's Facebook page it does appear that you can now cancel and get a full refund. How they would know if you are as smoker though, it could just be buyers remorse, or since booking seen a better offer with another cruse line.
I was sitting next to an acquaintence in a private rear garden (not her home) in a covered patio area and she was enjoying her e-cigarette (which she uses exclusively). After a couple of hours I still felt the effects of smoke inhalation and asked her that I thought these did not impact on breathing for those who are sensitive to smoke in the vicinity, as it was vapour - how could that be?
She then pointed out to me behind some bottles on the table we were sitting around that a large joss stiock had been smoking away that was concealed behind some bottles and the smoke was blowing my way. Indeed it was that that was casuing me some tightening around the breathing area. Funnily enough It didn't appear to give sandlewood, patchouli (sp?) or whatever but just bog-standard smoke! (a thin and slight wisp)
From posts on P&O's Facebook page it does appear that you can now cancel and get a full refund. How they would know if you are as smoker though, it could just be buyers remorse, or since booking seen a better offer with another cruse line.
Ray
I expect that P&O would have to take any request to cancel at face value. However, one would hope that unscrupulous people would not take advantage of the offer to cancel if they were non-smokers.
From posts on P&O's Facebook page it does appear that you can now cancel and get a full refund. How they would know if you are as smoker though, it could just be buyers remorse, or since booking seen a better offer with another cruse line.
Ray
I expect that P&O would have to take any request to cancel at face value. However, one would hope that unscrupulous people would not take advantage of the offer to cancel if they were non-smokers.
Mo
Overtime I have accepted your strident, forthright and sometimes controversial views posted on this forum.
However to suggest that their could be unscrupulous folk booking P&O cruises is a step too far.
I am still looking to book a getaway fare for this year when I get the all clear for my ribs, and my agent just told me that she was stacked with complaints about the smoking policy.... the people I go with, who are smokers, arent impressed by the new ruling so I told them to email P & O. Not that it will make any difference.
The e-cig does seem to be "a way-forward" but I can understand P&O's rule as regards indoor PUBLIC areas. Personally one can easily tell (aside from the absence of irritating smoke) that they are not real cigarettes as they look somewhat pastic and shiny looking.
However there are concerns about the manufacture and regulating of what goes in them. This is where the UK and the EU should establish some standards.
I am not convinced about the deliberate absorption of nicotene into the body, and consider these devices as being really for those wishing to give up cigarettes as an aid, alongside other nicotene products such as patches and gum, and only for use in the short term and to kick the habit.
Shoreside, I also get the concern about reinforcing of "smoking is acceptable" to youngsters, when it isn't, and that indoor public areas and certain outdoor areas where children and youth can be reasonably be expected to be present, e-cigarette use by adults should be prohibited.
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Ooer, thank you.
