Current Affairs 2023

[Onelife]

By heck but this Royal firm seem able to control lots of organisations from the media through to international air lines, they must be bloomin good.

'Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely'

The Royals do have position, but we both know they have no real power.

Indeed John, but Influence has many advantages for those who have the power to exploit it.

[towny44]

'Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely'

The Royals do have position, but we both know they have no real power.

Indeed John, but Influence has many advantages for those who have the power to exploit it.

But a lot of protocols that severely limit them from taking undue advantage of their influence.

[Mervyn and Trish]

A few posts back OL said that "Harry’s side of the story does have factual references to the truth".

I wouldn't argue with that but I'm a big believer in the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. We've seen and heard enough to know that his book and interviews are riddled with inaccuracies so certainly don't meet that standard. And that makes the whole thing lack credibility.

I won't say he's blatantly lying but he admits himself to misremembering.

He also exaggerates and overstates. Yes he lost his mother in a very tragic and public way. He's not the only one to have a loved one killed by a drunken driver.

He's disappointed he's not inheriting the family business. That happens a lot.

He fought with his brother. So did lots of kids. He argued with his father who didn't much like his first wife. Neither did mine, but he loved my second. Perhaps Harry will experience that too.

He has noone but himself to blame for the drink and drugs.

All in all the whole story is full of holes and the bits that do hang together aren't unusual in human life.

So I'm fed up with the whinging rich kid now and this is my last post on the subject. I hope he enjoys his retirement from the public eye, and the sooner the better please.

[Manoverboard]

Hi Mob, my wife was on an Alcohol detox program at the time so as you and Mobietta were sitting next to her I thought you would want to help with her recovery…she gets a bit silly after a few drinks …remember?

Your memory serves you well ... pity your judgement is failing

[Gill W]

I wouldn't argue with that but I'm a big believer in the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth..

Are you sure?

It's just that you never seemed that bothered about Boris Johnson and his pork pies

[Mervyn and Trish]

I thought there were more important issues than birthday cakes and parties. And was as bored with the Boris Bashing as I am with Harry's whinging now.

[Onelife]

A few posts back OL said that "Harry’s side of the story does have factual references to the truth".

I wouldn't argue with that but I'm a big believer in the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. We've seen and heard enough to know that his book and interviews are riddled with inaccuracies so certainly don't meet that standard. And that makes the whole thing lack credibility.

I won't say he's blatantly lying but he admits himself to misremembering.

He also exaggerates and overstates. Yes he lost his mother in a very tragic and public way. He's not the only one to have a loved one killed by a drunken driver.

He's disappointed he's not inheriting the family business. That happens a lot.

He fought with his brother. So did lots of kids. He argued with his father who didn't much like his first wife. Neither did mine, but he loved my second. Perhaps Harry will experience that too.

He has noone but himself to blame for the drink and drugs.

All in all the whole story is full of holes and the bits that do hang together aren't unusual in human life.

So I'm fed up with the whinging rich kid now and this is my last post on the subject. I hope he enjoys his retirement from the public eye, and the sooner the better please.

Hi Sir Merv, I was really encouraged by the start of your post as it came across that you do think there is some truth in what Harry has been saying? I like you don’t know which parts are true or which parts are embellished to resemble the truth. What we both know is that a simple acknowledgment from those who do know the truth would more than likely bring this whole sad saga to a conclusion…a simple…” we acknowledge that mistakes were made” would I believe be enough to allow both parties to move on.

You talk about honesty and I for one accept that honesty is an attribute that comes across in all that you post, so with this in mind you can leave this thread knowing that you have my respect.

The other rubbish about Harry being disappointed in not inheriting the family business will I have no doubt surface in one of the tabloids over the coming weeks

That's you sorted now where is Foxy

[towny44]

A few posts back OL said that "Harry’s side of the story does have factual references to the truth".

I wouldn't argue with that but I'm a big believer in the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. We've seen and heard enough to know that his book and interviews are riddled with inaccuracies so certainly don't meet that standard. And that makes the whole thing lack credibility.

I won't say he's blatantly lying but he admits himself to misremembering.

He also exaggerates and overstates. Yes he lost his mother in a very tragic and public way. He's not the only one to have a loved one killed by a drunken driver.

He's disappointed he's not inheriting the family business. That happens a lot.

He fought with his brother. So did lots of kids. He argued with his father who didn't much like his first wife. Neither did mine, but he loved my second. Perhaps Harry will experience that too.

He has noone but himself to blame for the drink and drugs.

All in all the whole story is full of holes and the bits that do hang together aren't unusual in human life.

So I'm fed up with the whinging rich kid now and this is my last post on the subject. I hope he enjoys his retirement from the public eye, and the sooner the better please.

Hi Sir Merv, I was really encouraged by the start of your post as it came across that you do think there is some truth in what Harry has been saying? I like you don’t know which parts are true or which parts are embellished to resemble the truth. What we both know is that a simple acknowledgment from those who do know the truth would more than likely bring this whole sad saga to a conclusion…a simple…” we acknowledge that mistakes were made” would I believe be enough to allow both parties to move on.

You talk about honesty and I for one accept that honesty is an attribute that comes across in all that you post, so with this in mind you can leave this thread knowing that you have my respect.

The other rubbish about Harry being disappointed in not inheriting the family business will I have no doubt surface in one of the tabloids over the coming weeks

That's you sorted now where is Foxy

Keith there is no way that Harry, or maybe Meghan, really want any of the Royals to apologise and then move on, his only source of income is his emnity with the Royal family. LIke good news never being broadcast on the BBC, Netflix will not pay for a final kiss and make up episode, so Harry has to continue to muck rake over his life as a Royal, or Meghan will up sticks to find a wealthier meal ticket.

[Onelife]

A few posts back OL said that "Harry’s side of the story does have factual references to the truth".

I wouldn't argue with that but I'm a big believer in the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. We've seen and heard enough to know that his book and interviews are riddled with inaccuracies so certainly don't meet that standard. And that makes the whole thing lack credibility.

I won't say he's blatantly lying but he admits himself to misremembering.

He also exaggerates and overstates. Yes he lost his mother in a very tragic and public way. He's not the only one to have a loved one killed by a drunken driver.

He's disappointed he's not inheriting the family business. That happens a lot.

He fought with his brother. So did lots of kids. He argued with his father who didn't much like his first wife. Neither did mine, but he loved my second. Perhaps Harry will experience that too.

He has noone but himself to blame for the drink and drugs.

All in all the whole story is full of holes and the bits that do hang together aren't unusual in human life.

So I'm fed up with the whinging rich kid now and this is my last post on the subject. I hope he enjoys his retirement from the public eye, and the sooner the better please.

Hi Sir Merv, I was really encouraged by the start of your post as it came across that you do think there is some truth in what Harry has been saying? I like you don’t know which parts are true or which parts are embellished to resemble the truth. What we both know is that a simple acknowledgment from those who do know the truth would more than likely bring this whole sad saga to a conclusion…a simple…” we acknowledge that mistakes were made” would I believe be enough to allow both parties to move on.

You talk about honesty and I for one accept that honesty is an attribute that comes across in all that you post, so with this in mind you can leave this thread knowing that you have my respect.

The other rubbish about Harry being disappointed in not inheriting the family business will I have no doubt surface in one of the tabloids over the coming weeks

That's you sorted now where is Foxy

Keith there is no way that Harry, or maybe Meghan, really want any of the Royals to apologise and then move on, his only source of income is his emnity with the Royal family. LIke good news never being broadcast on the BBC, Netflix will not pay for a final kiss and make up episode, so Harry has to continue to muck rake over his life as a Royal, or Meghan will up sticks to find a wealthier meal ticket.

It doesn’t matter which way you look at it…his birth right and how he chooses to use it is still in the hands of those who know the truth.

[david63]

is still in the hands of those who know the truth

And they are?

This could very easily turn into one of those "be careful what you ask for" scenarios - because the truth may not be what you want to hear.

[Onelife]

is still in the hands of those who know the truth

And they are?

This could very easily turn into one of those "be careful what you ask for" scenarios - because the truth may not be what you want to hear.

Hi David, my rational is this; If those who know the truth, tell the truth according to how they see it then both sides will have had their say…if the palace acknowledge that there were things that should and could have been done better then Harry will then able to walk in whichever direction he chooses, if however, the palace choose to say nothing then Harry will have no other option but to pursue the truth as he sees it….therefore the ball is in their court.

If it is as John has said that Harry is only in it to make more money it will be as it is with all products, it will eventually run out of its shelf life and people will stop buying into it…irrespective of where the truth lies.

[oldbluefox]

It's family tittle tattle which happens in any family. That's where it belongs and that's where it should stay. Harry has weaponised his family experiences to make money.

[barney]

is still in the hands of those who know the truth

And they are?

This could very easily turn into one of those "be careful what you ask for" scenarios - because the truth may not be what you want to hear.

Hi David, my rational is this; If those who know the truth, tell the truth according to how they see it then both sides will have had their say…if the palace acknowledge that there were things that should and could have been done better then Harry will then able to walk in whichever direction he chooses, if however, the palace choose to say nothing then Harry will have no other option but to pursue the truth as he sees it….therefore the ball is in their court.

If it is as John has said that Harry is only in it to make more money it will be as it is with all products, it will eventually run out of its shelf life and people will stop buying into it…irrespective of where the truth lies.

You’re aware of the phrase, You can’t buck the system, aren’t you.
There can only be one winner in this situation.
The system will prevail.
Harry is having his ‘five minutes’ and obviously causing a bit of embarrassment to his family, but then ……. What?
His only value to the media is as a ‘royal’
That aside, he’s the husband of a little known actress who is best known for being married to a ‘royal’
In my opinion, the best thing that his family can do is let it blow itself out.
The Palace should publicly announce that of course, the couple will be welcome at the Coronation. It will be a national spectacular.
Then it’s totally up to them as to whether they attend or not.
Personally, I couldn’t care less either way.

[Gill W]

I thought there were more important issues than birthday cakes and parties. And was as bored with the Boris Bashing as I am with Harry's whinging now.

It’s like you are saying it’s ok to lie about things that you think are inconsequential.

Which surely can’t be correct?

[Onelife]

And they are?

This could very easily turn into one of those "be careful what you ask for" scenarios - because the truth may not be what you want to hear.

Hi David, my rational is this; If those who know the truth, tell the truth according to how they see it then both sides will have had their say…if the palace acknowledge that there were things that should and could have been done better then Harry will then able to walk in whichever direction he chooses, if however, the palace choose to say nothing then Harry will have no other option but to pursue the truth as he sees it….therefore the ball is in their court.

If it is as John has said that Harry is only in it to make more money it will be as it is with all products, it will eventually run out of its shelf life and people will stop buying into it…irrespective of where the truth lies.

You’re aware of the phrase, You can’t buck the system, aren’t you.
There can only be one winner in this situation.
The system will prevail.
Harry is having his ‘five minutes’ and obviously causing a bit of embarrassment to his family, but then ……. What?
His only value to the media is as a ‘royal’
That aside, he’s the husband of a little known actress who is best known for being married to a ‘royal’
In my opinion, the best thing that his family can do is let it blow itself out.
The Palace should publicly announce that of course, the couple will be welcome at the Coronation. It will be a national spectacular.
Then it’s totally up to them as to whether they attend or not.
Personally, I couldn’t care less either way.

Hi Barney,

In this one short sentence…

“That aside, he’s the husband of a little-known actress who is best known for being married to a ‘royal”

…you have highlighted what all this is about. With a little more research you will see that Meghan is far from being” a little-known actress”
indeed, she has probably achieved more in her life than what most women achieve in a lifetime.

When you perceive someone as a little-known actress you pigeonhole them into that category, a category where others feel they have the right to judge them… therein lies the truth as to where we are now, Imo.

[Stephen]

Personally I think he should be stripped of his royal title and any benefits he gets from it. If he doesn’t want to be part of the royal family (not that they’ll have him back now I doubt), and the role that goes with it, then fine. Let him see what it’s like in the real world as just Mr Windsor the commoner.

[Onelife]

Personally I think he should be stripped of his royal title and any benefits he gets from it. If he doesn’t want to be part of the royal family (not that they’ll have him back now I doubt), and the role that goes with it, then fine. Let him see what it’s like in the real world as just Mr Windsor the commoner.

From a Monarchists perspective that would be a very bad idea…unless of course you would like to hear the accusations which prompted Harry to say…” "But there are some things that have happened, especially between me and my brother, and to some extent between me and my father, that I just don't want the world to know. Because I don't think they would ever forgive me,"

[Stephen]

I couldn't care less what has happened Keith between him and William.

[Onelife]

I couldn't care less what has happened Keith between him and William.

That’s fair enough Stephen but the repercussions for William could be devastating in the eyes of his adoring Royal fans.

[david63]

Meghan is far from being” a little-known actress”

To be perfectly honest until she started having a relationship with Harry I had never heard of her - she may be better known in the States than this side of the pond.

The thing with Harry is that the majority of his grievances revolve around his relationship with the press. Now I understand some of this after the way Diana was hounded by the paparazzi.

Harry, for whatever reason best known to himself, decided to take on the press head on, unlike his brother (who went through the same thing as Harry over Diana) who made peace with the press and has an agreement on how they are treated. All of this started long before Meghan came on the scene so I am not sure what ulterior motives he has

[oldbluefox]

Let him rant and rave and like others who try to create problems and disharmony they run out of ammunition and after that nobody is interested. He's best ignored.

[Onelife]

Meghan is far from being” a little-known actress”

To be perfectly honest until she started having a relationship with Harry I had never heard of her - she may be better known in the States than this side of the pond.

The thing with Harry is that the majority of his grievances revolve around his relationship with the press. Now I understand some of this after the way Diana was hounded by the paparazzi.

Harry, for whatever reason best known to himself, decided to take on the press head on, unlike his brother (who went through the same thing as Harry over Diana) who made peace with the press and has an agreement on how they are treated. All of this started long before Meghan came on the scene so I am not sure what ulterior motives he has

To be fair David, I think Harry’s involvement with the press has more to do with how they portrayed his wife, the grievances that have emerged thereafter are a direct result of this. imo

[screwy]

Let’s put 2p on income tax,then public sector can have their pay demands.!

Well the cash has to come from somewhere.

[barney]

Hi David, my rational is this; If those who know the truth, tell the truth according to how they see it then both sides will have had their say…if the palace acknowledge that there were things that should and could have been done better then Harry will then able to walk in whichever direction he chooses, if however, the palace choose to say nothing then Harry will have no other option but to pursue the truth as he sees it….therefore the ball is in their court.

If it is as John has said that Harry is only in it to make more money it will be as it is with all products, it will eventually run out of its shelf life and people will stop buying into it…irrespective of where the truth lies.

You’re aware of the phrase, You can’t buck the system, aren’t you.
There can only be one winner in this situation.
The system will prevail.
Harry is having his ‘five minutes’ and obviously causing a bit of embarrassment to his family, but then ……. What?
His only value to the media is as a ‘royal’
That aside, he’s the husband of a little known actress who is best known for being married to a ‘royal’
In my opinion, the best thing that his family can do is let it blow itself out.
The Palace should publicly announce that of course, the couple will be welcome at the Coronation. It will be a national spectacular.
Then it’s totally up to them as to whether they attend or not.
Personally, I couldn’t care less either way.

Hi Barney,

In this one short sentence…

“That aside, he’s the husband of a little-known actress who is best known for being married to a ‘royal”

…you have highlighted what all this is about. With a little more research you will see that Meghan is far from being” a little-known actress”
indeed, she has probably achieved more in her life than what most women achieve in a lifetime.

When you perceive someone as a little-known actress you pigeonhole them into that category, a category where others feel they have the right to judge them… therein lies the truth as to where we are now, Imo.

Oh, come on mate.
She had a few bit part roles before landing her break in Suits but was hardly top of the bill.
A simple Google of Suits shows she’s not listed amongst the principal players.
Her biggest role was in catching an English Prince, who she claims she’d never heard of or knew nothing about.
Do me a favour.
I’m sure she will continue to milk it for all it’s worth.

[Bensham33]

Let’s put 2p on income tax,then public sector can have their pay demands.!

Well the cash has to come from somewhere.

Agree. The Government have got to do something because this situation is getting worse. They are simply ignoring it hoping that it will go away. We never had these problems when Labour were in power.