Age of consent

[Onelife]

Among those to have been convicted is former BBC broadcaster Stuart Hall, who admitted 14 charges of indecently assaulting girls, including one aged nine, between 1967 and 1985.

Ms Hewson described Hall's crimes as "low-level misdemeanours" which "ordinarily... would not be prosecuted".

When the “stupid cow” comes out with comments like "low-level misdemeanours" then you can fully understand why groups are trying to distance themselves from her.

Regards

OL

[Dark Knight]

Keefy
you would be amazed at what does not get prosecuted by the police and courts and is classed as a something and nothing

[HK phooey]

Her comments are ill thought out. Since when has sexual assault been a 'low level misdemeanour'? I hope that no young girls being assaulted in this way by 'uncles' all around the country won't read this rubbish and be afraid to speak up.The idea that legalising sex for 13 year old children will reduce teenage pregnancies is a nonsense. Perhaps if they stopped forcing porn on young children in our schools in the guise of sex education and started promoting some self respect and a fear of the consequences of breaking the law, then we might see some changes.

[Mo2013]

There are varying degrees of crime but this woman's suggestion is nothing short of outrageous. What is wrong with a young girl saying 'No' and not having sex until she is old enough to take the responsibility of the possible consequences? It's not about self-respect, it's about young kids not having any boundaries, or a sense of responsibility or the maturity that goes with having sex and babies - the things you should only do when you are older. Sex etc. is everywhere now, some music videos are nothing short of porn and there are no decency boundaries to respect and stay inside of. My granddaughter is 3 years old, and the thought of her being legally allowed to have sex in just a few years' time is abhorrent to me. In any case, there is no way that my little granddaughter will grow up without any values.

[Dark Knight]

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There are laws in place that prohibit underage sex, and the only reason they are not enforced is because they are not vote winers and are not seen as high on any politicians agenda, crimes such as these are reffered to the CPS and if they find that it is not in the public interest to prosecute then they don't, which speaks volumes about our legal system.
so the question to ask is why aren't this type of crime prosecuted??

[Onelife]

Hi Mo,

I actually think Darkpanties would make a good politician compared to some of the forked tongued snakes we have leading this country at the moment.

Regards

Keith

[HK phooey]

Onelife, I don't think the Monster Raving Loony Party are looking for anyone at the moment

[Dark Knight]

HK cheeky
anyone who want to be a politician, should be barred from being one, for the simple fact that they want to be one in the first place

Keefy
thanks, err I think?

[Manoverboard]

.... there are laws in place that prohibit underage sex, and the only reason they are not enforced is because they are not vote winers and are not seen as high on any politicians agenda, crimes such as these are reffered to the CPS and if they find that it is not in the public interest to prosecute then they don't, which speaks volumes about our legal system.
so the question to ask is why aren't this type of crime prosecuted??

So, are you saying you wish to see everybody who is having an under age fumble proscecuted ?

The Courts would be heaving and the legal beagles would be creaming even more money than they do now.

Out of interest the Law as I understood it has achieved nothing to ' prevent ' matters of a sexual nature but only to ' permit ' during my entire lifetime, at least it seems that way ... ie more and more liberalisation.

[Dark Knight]

Moby
if an underage girl gets preganant then a crime has taken place, pretty simple really, so why then aren't the mother and father prosecuted, as the evidence is pretty bloody obvious, the reason :nobody cares enough to uphold this law.
yet when someone says that the law needs a review, everyone goes on about the age of consent?
it is a joke

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[Manoverboard]

Moby
if an underage girl gets preganant then a crime has taken place, pretty simple really, so why then aren't the mother and father prosecuted, as the evidence is pretty bl**dy obvious ...

There is no difference if the sexual act produces a child or if it does not, if they proscecute one but not the other then that is discrimination.

A Law of any form will not solve the problem, even more bl**dy obvious I would have thought.

[Andrea S]

I still find it disturbing associating young teenagers to sexual activity.
In my opinion it is the parents that are letting these 'children' down. Sex education is one thing but parents should be their role models.
There is no deterrent, no-one enforces the under age law.
'Everyone ' does it and I can get the morning after pill is not acceptable.
The word NO and respect for their bodies should be drummed into them.

[Mo2013]

I still find it disturbing associating young teenagers to sexual activity.
In my opinion it is the parents that are letting these 'children' down. Sex education is one thing but parents should be their role models.
There is no deterrent, no-one enforces the under age law.
'Everyone ' does it and I can get the morning after pill is not acceptable.
The word NO and respect for their bodies should be drummed into them.

Spot on Andrea.

[suespud]

Well Im afraid some of you are not living in the real world.

Sex, in teenagers with raging hormones is going to happen, no matter how much you tell them to say NO.
It was drummed into me...from an early age.
But I "fell in love" at 14-15....
I was under age..as was my boyfriend.
It was only him. I didnt sleep around.

As for my own children, I drummed it into them too...
BUT also realised that no matter what you say, they will do what they want...hormones.
My boys were very tall and very good looking...girls flocked (Im not kidding)
They were often away at England mixed basketball camps over weekends, I was worried.
They had so many oportunities ...So at age 15 I gave them condoms.
But also told them it was illegal to have sex with a girl under 16. But I live in the real world and as much as I would have liked to think they took my advice,..I know kids.
I felt I would have been a poor parent if I didnt judge the situation and act accordingly.

The age of consent should NOT be lowered.

[Silver_Shiney]

I still find it disturbing associating young teenagers to sexual activity.
In my opinion it is the parents that are letting these 'children' down. Sex education is one thing but parents should be their role models.
There is no deterrent, no-one enforces the under age law.
'Everyone ' does it and I can get the morning after pill is not acceptable.
The word NO and respect for their bodies should be drummed into them.

Quite

[suespud]

I still find it disturbing associating young teenagers to sexual activity.
In my opinion it is the parents that are letting these 'children' down. Sex education is one thing but parents should be their role models.
There is no deterrent, no-one enforces the under age law.
'Everyone ' does it and I can get the morning after pill is not acceptable.
The word NO and respect for their bodies should be drummed into them.

Quite

Quite...in an ideal world.
And I agree it should be like that, but it isnt...sadly.
Ignoring what teenages could get up to is irresponsible parenting.IMO anyway

[Silver_Shiney]

Sue, I do realise that we don't live in an ideal world. I do understand that children will have sex before they are mentally and legally old enough to do so.

It doesn't lessen our responsibilities as parents to derum into them that they should save themselves for marriage.

Just because they can and they do, does not make it right that they do.

[Andrea S]

SueSpud, I am not passing judgement on todays youngsters but I personally believe 13 is far too young to get pregnant.
You have quoted your own experiences and I agree experimenting is part of growing up but with your own children you did what all parents should do and that is to teach them to act sensibly.
Nottingham has one of the highest rates for teenage pregnancies and sexual disease which is what I think could be stopped. Locally
A couple of years ago a local school was in the media with 5 pupils pregnant. 1 was 13 and 4 were 14.

[suespud]

SueSpud, I am not passing judgement on todays youngsters but I personally believe 13 is far too young to get pregnant.
You have quoted your own experiences and I agree experimenting is part of growing up but with your own children you did what all parents should do and that is to teach them to act sensibly.
Nottingham has one of the highest rates for teenage pregnancies and sexual disease which is what I think could be stopped. Locally
A couple of years ago a local school was in the media with 5 pupils pregnant. 1 was 13 and 4 were 14.

Andrea, I agree.

I worked with young mothers ages from 13-18, teaching them parenting skills.
I met some very sad youngsters.
Thats why I am so adamant that we cant bury our heads and say "tell our kids NO"... and hope they will do as we say.

LOTS OF THEM DONT !!!!

[suespud]

Sue, I do realise that we don't live in an ideal world. I do understand that children will have sex before they are mentally and legally old enough to do so.

It doesn't lessen our responsibilities as parents to derum into them that they should save themselves for marriage.Just because they can and they do, does not make it right that they do.

Alan.....Marriage.... ?????

So..... scenario...young man/woman... school, uni, career.. maybe thinks about marraige in late 20's early 30's...
Dont become sexually active till after they are married ?????
Sorry Alan... cant get my head around that.

[Dark Knight]

Moby
sorry mate but your response typifies the attitude of many...well it happens so what, what can you do,
41.000 teen pregnancies, that's what happens

I am not advocating a lowering of the age of consent, coz it is a joke, the age of consent is when a girl willingly says yes, that is the age of consent, what I am saying is nobody cares about the ramifications and doing nothing to change the situation and when the debate comes up, look what happens
it is something that needs debating at a high level.

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[Andrea S]

Suespud, I have worked within the NHS for many years and sadly many of these youngsters also turn to drugs.
Nowadays It seems a social pastime.
These youngsters are often from broken homes and it ends up with people such as yourself teaching then parenting skills.

You do realise the talks will be even harder in a few years time when your grandchildren get to be teenagers.!!

[Manoverboard]

Moby
sorry mate but your response typifies the attitude of many...well it happens so what, what can you do ...

Not so, I am saying that there is not a legal solution ... nor will there ever be.

I'm with SuperSpud on this one ... as parents we do what we can and then ' hope for the best ' cos we know that unless you lock them away in a cupboard they will experiment. Some get lucky, some are sensible and go on the pill yet others fall foul at the first attempt.

ps ... Alan, you cannot be serious ... this is 2013 and they already know about it ?

[suespud]

Suespud, I have worked within the NHS for many years and sadly many of these youngsters also turn to drugs.
Nowadays It seems a social pastime.
These youngsters are often from broken homes and it ends up with people such as yourself teaching then parenting skills.

You do realise the talks will be even harder in a few years time when your grandchildren get to be teenagers.!!

Andrea, I worked for Social Services and have seen it all.

Dont worry...this Nana will be banging on that drum from a very early age ...5 boys and 1 girl will have sore ears !!!

[Dark Knight]

so if the law does not work, then what will education???
sex lessons for 7 yr olds,

behave, this is one of those subjects that is ignored till it affects you personally