The Monocled Mutineer has registered

[oldbluefox]

AOTH, be nice to our new member!!!

[Admiral of the Humber]

...always was.....

[emjay45]

As I've unfortunately only realised recently people on forums can be rather two-faced. At least the MM is always himself. He doesn't pretend to be something he isn't. I admire honesty.

[Ray Scully]

Well Derek old chap
I don't know whether during your absence from cruise fora you have been keeping up to speed with Liverpool's success as a port to visit and increasingly a port of embarkation.
It is particularly pleasing that our well travelled American cousins find the Liverpool experience particularly attractive, berthing as they do in the heart of this historic city.

Ray

[sunsetsail2night]

So pleased to hear from you again Derek - have missed you! Now, can you use your powers of persuasion to temp DTM to post. I miss his humour.

Brenda

[Dark Knight]

Hull is now becoming more established as a cruise port and we will be looking at some of the cruises in due course, will be a nice change from having to drive all the way darn sarf and all the way back, just to come past our house 2 days later?

[The Monocled Mutineer]

Sumdumblock:

Au contraire.

I WILL be participating in this forum, but only minimumly (eg regarding a forthcoming cruise, query about a shop or port, etc) but will not participate in discussions that provoke abusive reactions from lightweights (politics, religion, dress codes, smoking, poor parenting, etc) who would then demand and succeed in my removal from this site (Rule 1c) were I to participate in such discussions.

Yours &c., &c.,

Derek Kane

The Monocled Mutineer

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[HK phooey]

What a lightweight you are Degsy

[Susan Watt]

Hello Mr Kane,

Have you ever done a USA & Canada cruise and if so do you have a cruise review for it?

[Dark Knight]

HK: be nice to Derek, you must make allowances for newbies, who don't know how to behave on forums, given time I am sure Derek will fit right in and be contributing away merrily, as on the dress code and school holiday threads and I am confident we will see many , many more delightful,insightful and well balanced posts from Mr Kane
It would not be fair to give him the wrong impression so early in his forum days, so be a darling and give Derek chance to settle in and become familiar with cruising in all it's splendour
DK

[HK phooey]

You are right Batty. Dear Degsy, how delightful to see you here at last. I hope your good self and your wife are well and happy and enjoying the sunshine in the lovely south of England today.

[Dark Knight]

Ah HK you are a sweetie
thanks
DK

[Kendhni]

... but will not participate in discussions that provoke abusive reactions ... (politics, religion, dress codes, smoking, poor parenting, etc) who would then demand and succeed in my removal from this site (Rule 1c) were I to participate in such discussions.

Derek, as David has already pointed out you are misinterpretting rule 1c. Rule 1c is about those who deliberately come onto this board as 'trolls' (and we have had a few of these, who have been dealt with). There has been, and probably always will be debate, that sometimes may end up more robust than it really should be (and you may well find me in the thick of it ). In general the tactic taken has been to remove posts that are deemed to attack individuals (directly or indirectly) and, if thought necessary, ask people to consider amending how they make their points ... note that we can all be a bit loose with how we word things which means some posts may be taken more personally than they were intended (often due to not reading/understanding or misinterpretting or not realising that something may have been said TIC).

Each moderator will read and (if necessary) act on each post on its merits ... so one moderator may let something stand, whereas another may decide to remove ... however in general if any moderator has made a decision then all moderators will accept that decision. This has included moderators moderating the moderators and even the site owner. While it may not always appear to be so, the general rule is that the moderators have always tried to treat everybody the same in an equal fashion ... however those with a more robust, argumentative, negative or confrontational posting style are likely to attract more attention (me included) ... that does not mean the moderator agrees or disagrees with any point, possibly just the way it is made.

Also, because of the quote facility it has sometimes been necessary to clear out more posts than we really need to ... but it is easier to simply delete posts than trying to edit ... which could well attract even more criticism from a poster.

[The Monocled Mutineer]

Dear Susan Watt:

No, I have not done a US & Canada Cruise.

I have done a double crossing on the QM2 and if I can find my original post (made on P&O's old forums) I will place it on this site.

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[Susan Watt]

Thank you Mr Kane.

[Silver_Shiney]

... but will not participate in discussions that provoke abusive reactions ... (politics, religion, dress codes, smoking, poor parenting, etc) who would then demand and succeed in my removal from this site (Rule 1c) were I to participate in such discussions.

Derek, as David has already pointed out you are misinterpretting rule 1c. Rule 1c is about those who deliberately come onto this board as 'trolls' (and we have had a few of these, who have been dealt with). There has been, and probably always will be debate, that sometimes may end up more robust than it really should be (and you may well find me in the thick of it ). In general the tactic taken has been to remove posts that are deemed to attack individuals (directly or indirectly) and, if thought necessary, ask people to consider amending how they make their points ... note that we can all be a bit loose with how we word things which means some posts may be taken more personally than they were intended (often due to not reading/understanding or misinterpretting or not realising that something may have been said TIC).

Each moderator will read and (if necessary) act on each post on its merits ... so one moderator may let something stand, whereas another may decide to remove ... however in general if any moderator has made a decision then all moderators will accept that decision. This has included moderators moderating the moderators and even the site owner. While it may not always appear to be so, the general rule is that the moderators have always tried to treat everybody the same in an equal fashion ... however those with a more robust, argumentative, negative or confrontational posting style are likely to attract more attention (me included) ... that does not mean the moderator agrees or disagrees with any point, possibly just the way it is made.

Also, because of the quote facility it has sometimes been necessary to clear out more posts than we really need to ... but it is easier to simply delete posts than trying to edit ... which could well attract even more criticism from a poster.

The moderators on the BBC Have Your Say forum frequently abuse their editorial responsibilities, removing posts that do not break any rules, and retaining ones that clearly do. They never respond to challenges and are totally unaccountable.

The moderators on this site, on the other hand, are accountable to the rest of us, especially so as many people here know each other personally, rather than just in cyberspace. Although I have never met them in person, I proud to call them friends.

I trust our moderators.

[suespud]

The moderators on this site, on the other hand, are accountable to the rest of us, especially so as many people here know each other personally, rather than just in cyberspace. Although I have never met them in person, I proud to call them friends.

I trust our moderators.

Alan

Well said Alan.
I might not always agree with everthing that is red penned and removed, but I totally accept and respect the mods actions.

[Dark Knight]

why fear the Modplods??
if you have a valid point and can post in a well mannered and structured form, why worry, the only people who have to worry about moderation on here are the ones, as pointed out by Kenplod, who just want to cause trouble and they do not seem to last long
perhaps that is what some are afraid of??

[sumdumbloke]

Sumdumblock:

Au contraire.

I WILL be participating in this forum, but only minimumly (eg regarding a forthcoming cruise, query about a shop or port, etc) but will not participate in discussions that provoke abusive reactions from lightweights (politics, religion, dress codes, smoking, poor parenting, etc) who would then demand and succeed in my removal from this site (Rule 1c) were I to participate in such discussions.

Yours &c., &c.,

Derek Kane

The Monocled Mutineer

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I think you probably mean minimally, but it'll be fun watching you (or anyone else) wielding the blue pencil on your own thoughts.

[Stephen]

Good afternoon Derek (MM) and welcome.

[Delboy]

I am another Derek and I also only post minimally , but that has nothing to do with the moderators or the T/C's of forum.

I always look at it this way, if I was not happy with the T/C's or the moderators, then I would remove my membership.

I certainly would not remain a member, of somewhere I was not happy with.

[Mo2013]

Silver Shiney said "the moderators on this site .......... are accountable to the rest of us, especially so as many people here know each other personally, rather than just in cyberspace. Although I have never met them in person, I proud to call them friends."

It is not a question of fear or how a post is worded, since some posts remain. Many people are known to each other personally, so that is where problems arise. Whilst Mods may think they are being fair, I just don't think that Mods will be able to help favouring their 'friends', because it's human nature. A Mod can comment very generally on threads, but should never become involved on a personal level, which has happened.

[Silver_Shiney]

Silver Shiney said "the moderators on this site .......... are accountable to the rest of us, especially so as many people here know each other personally, rather than just in cyberspace. Although I have never met them in person, I proud to call them friends."

It is not a question of fear or how a post is worded, since some posts remain. Many people are known to each other personally, so that is where problems arise. Whilst Mods may think they are being fair, I just don't think that Mods will be able to help favouring their 'friends', because it's human nature. A Mod can comment very generally on threads, but should never become involved on a personal level, which has happened.

I can assure you they've not shown me any special favour.

[Dancing Queen]

Silver Shiney said "the moderators on this site .......... are accountable to the rest of us, especially so as many people here know each other personally, rather than just in cyberspace. Although I have never met them in person, I proud to call them friends."

It is not a question of fear or how a post is worded, since some posts remain. Many people are known to each other personally, so that is where problems arise. Whilst Mods may think they are being fair, I just don't think that Mods will be able to help favouring their 'friends', because it's human nature. A Mod can comment very generally on threads, but should never become involved on a personal level, which has happened.

I don't see any problems except problems that some like to make

I have never met any of the "mods" but do consider them "cyber friends" purely and simply because most of them have been posting on the P&O forum as long if not longer than I have, having said that I do not abuse the fact that I consider them friends, I don't expect nor do I get any preferential treatment, I have had posts removed and I accept they must have been removed because I overstepped the line.

I think everyone has been treated fairly since day one so it's about time that this notion that some are favoured was knocked on the head once and for all ( I don't see anyone else complaining that the mods are unfair ) we all have the same choice, accept the mods are going to moderate and their decision is final or move on.

David gave us this forum, he didn't have to do that, as far as I'm aware no-one has been denied registration so instead of looking for problems why not just go with the flow and enjoy instead of being negative.

[Silver_Shiney]

Very well said, Jo