P&O Forum

[oldbluefox]

Mo

I don't think this is the place where you can air grievances over what has happened to you in the past on a different forum. By all means air your views and opinions but I don't see what can be gained by dwelling in the past which is what seems to be happening. Isn't this a good time to wipe the slate clean and to make a fresh start?

On your dinner table analogy it would not worry me to have robust, heated debate amongst friends. However if somebody were rude and abusive to me or my guests they would not be invited again.

[Kendhni]

Reading the concept that a forum should be like a dinner table, then my observation is that if someone did not agree with you, or said something you did not like, you wouldn't ban them. Too many people refuse to respect, even if they don't accept, another's view when it differs from their own and that, in my opinion, is what causes all the trouble.

You make an interesting point, and in a way some people do 'ban' others ... but usually it is done by them opting to move to another table.
Always remember though that respect is a two-way thing and must first be earned ... it is not a right. If people are being overly confrontational then they will get a confrontational response ... sometimes it is hard on a board to understand the context in which a post is meant, but many posters response is done in the manner in which they perceive the original post to have been made .. if they think it was angry then the response will be angry ... if they think it is in jest then the response will be in jest.

My advice on this is that if you think a response to one of your posts is aggressive then it is probably because others have interpreted your post to have been aggressive (rightly or wrongly) ... often a simple rewording is all that is needed.

[Mo2013]

Ken, an interesting reply. However, and this is the crux of the matter, just because someone is perceived to have made a confrontational remark, this does not mean that an individual has to respond in kind. At the very least, responding like for like may be what the protagonist is seeking, so to refuse to take part in a confrontation must be better ? Or, agree to disagree and leave it there.

[Mo2013]

Mo

I don't think this is the place where you can air grievances over what has happened to you in the past on a different forum. By all means air your views and opinions but I don't see what can be gained by dwelling in the past which is what seems to be happening. Isn't this a good time to wipe the slate clean and to make a fresh start?

On your dinner table analogy it would not worry me to have robust, heated debate amongst friends. However if somebody were rude and abusive to me or my guests they would not be invited again.

Oldbluefox, yes this would be a really good time to have my slate wiped clean and a fresh start made

[Redrosegirlie]

Is this forum more harmonious in the abscence of one particular member?

That is the impression I get.

[qbman1]

I think it helps a lot that we all know and love the Founder and Ploderators. Maybe people will be less inclined to kick off now that we are not overseen by a faceless Admin team. I think you are right, though RRG - two notable absentees does seem to add up to greater harmony !

[Mo2013]

In some ways I don't agree - every forum has its characters but you cannot change a person, you can only change the way you react to that person. So if someone says something you really don't like, why not just ignore? If someone has said something so outrageous, surely you know that it is probably a waste of time even trying to get that person to see how rude/insensitive they are? I have come to the view that it's got to be better to walk away than bust a gut trying to nail jelly to the wall.

[david63]

This topic appears to me to be going way "off topic".

What happened in the past in another place is of no relevance here - however how people behave is. Each and every response will be judged on its own merit - there is no "hard and fast" rules as to what is right or what is wrong, or who should/should not respond to any post.

I would like to suggest that we all either get this topic back on course or stop posting on it.

[Mo2013]

This topic appears to me to be going way "off topic".

What happened in the past in another place is of no relevance here - however how people behave is. Each and every response will be judged on its own merit - there is no "hard and fast" rules as to what is right or what is wrong, or who should/should not respond to any post.

I would like to suggest that we all either get this topic back on course or stop posting on it.

I'd like to point out that a couple of posters mentioned that this forum seemed a harmonious place because of the absence of a couple of people? I merely pointed out that every forum has characters and expanded on that. I'm sorry if I have overstepped some mark but if this carries on, no-one is going to feel able to post.

[oldbluefox]

P&O seem to be relying more and more on their Facebook page for showing updates or promoting their product. Meanwhile on their own community page the last update is left at January 15th. It does make you wonder what their plans are.

[qbman1]

It does make you wonder what their plans are.

Going by recent past performance, I wonder whether they even know that themselves ?!

[Dancing Queen]

3 weeks today Foxy since that message was put on, I wonder if they are giving any "priority" to bringing the forum back although tbh I'm more than happy with what we've got here, we shall just have to try and persuade David to keep it going should P&O decide "that's it" no more cc

[Onelife]

Is this forum more harmonious in the abscence of one particular member?

That is the impression I get.

Hello Redrosegirlie

I’m sure you are correct and I’m sure admin and our moderators will do everything possible to maintain this harmony. I however would welcome the return of those who were perceived as being disruptive influences as I believe every forum benefits from a few out spoken mavericks.

Regards

OL

[Bert C]

P&O seem to be relying more and more on their Facebook page for showing updates or promoting their product. Meanwhile on their own community page the last update is left at January 15th. It does make you wonder what their plans are.

I've just been looking at details of a cruise in the first edition brochure for 2013 / 2014, so circa 10 months old. There are prominent plugs on the pages for Facebook, Twitter, Youtube and the main P&O website, highlighting its various features, but no mention of the Community website. Was this, perhaps, an early indication of the way things were going?

Bert

[Redrosegirlie]

OL,

I hope you don't think that I believe certain people shouldn't be allowed to join simply because they are outspoken or have differing views to the majority.

On the contrary I feel they add to discussions (when they post in a manner that upkeeps the harmony in a pleasant and friendly forum).

[Kendhni]

I however would welcome the return of those who were perceived as being disruptive influences as I believe every forum benefits from a few out spoken mavericks.

I would love to see Derek join at some point

[Orpheus]

Very seldom go to P&O's site now although I have a cruise booked in October used to go nearly every day when the forum was up and running.

[Mo2013]

That's the thing with a lot of people I suspect, book a cruise with P&O and then pop into the forum ....

[Redrosegirlie]

Yes Onelife, you are right.

I stand by my previous post though that, at present this forum is more harmonious, friendly and pleasant than the P&O one was

[qbman1]

....including over zealous use of the red pen (but done in a very friendly manner nonetheless) !

[JohnTheDog]

I think that those who goad & start arguments are more responsible for discord than those who feel compelled to respond.
Without those who have different points of view or outlook to the normal run of the mill these groups become sterile, if everyone just agrees all the time you just have a forum full of statements, remember the old saying "criticise the post not the poster".I think any personal stuff is best conducted in private, I know not all take this view but I think if anything is not for public consumption don't post it in public...

[Manoverboard]

OL

I had the power as a Moderator to ' delete ' your post without giving any reason but I originally let it stand but it has nothing whatsoever to do with opinions.

David63 has not built this site as a battle ground for raking up agro from other sites, albeit unintentional in this instance.

Regards Mob

[Dark Knight]

I feel it may take some weeks for this forum to find it's step, but there will be "hangovers" from previous forums and other social media, as many people post on several sites and are part of different groups on FB etc
whilst this is inevitable, I would ask the "Mods" to accept this is a part of the process and not be too heavy with the old red ink and not to try to coach the forum too much but just let it find it's equilibrium
yes there will be some who drag up old arguments and some who bring old scores from other sites and these should be moderated but casual references to past lives and people, when done in a non argumentative way, should be left to stand

[Kendhni]

Dark Knight, I think I have been quite clear that anybody trying to use this site to bring up old arguments will be edited out ... this is a new site giving everybody an equal opportunity to enjoy it but leave your baggage at the door.

[JohnTheDog]

I feel it may take some weeks for this forum to find it's step, but there will be "hangovers" from previous forums and other social media, as many people post on several sites and are part of different groups on FB etc
whilst this is inevitable, I would ask the "Mods" to accept this is a part of the process and not be too heavy with the old red ink and not to try to coach the forum too much but just let it find it's equilibrium
yes there will be some who drag up old arguments and some who bring old scores from other sites and these should be moderated but casual references to past lives and people, when done in a non argumentative way, should be left to stand

Well put