Who will take over from May as Tory party leader and future PM

[towny44]

I find it hard to believe that as bad as this Tory rabble are, they still look quite sane when compared to the stance that Labour is currently taking.

To suspend a member for voting for another party may well be in the constitution, but to publicly enact it, when under investigation for racism, is total madness.

Who is advising these people?

I quit when Corbyn was elected, then quite warmed to him and re-joined because of his fiscal policies, and now look like quitting again because of the ridiculous way it is run.
It's like Uni student politics.
If you cannot have a rational debate with someone who disagrees with you, then we might as well all chuck it in.

I worry about you Barney, he may have the best intentions of helping the poorest and trying to reduce inequalities, but his ideas on how to finance them are looney tunes.

[Meg 50]

there's so many throwing their hats in the ring now that it'll soon be simpler to tell us who isn't standing...……..

[barney]

I find it hard to believe that as bad as this Tory rabble are, they still look quite sane when compared to the stance that Labour is currently taking.

To suspend a member for voting for another party may well be in the constitution, but to publicly enact it, when under investigation for racism, is total madness.

Who is advising these people?

I quit when Corbyn was elected, then quite warmed to him and re-joined because of his fiscal policies, and now look like quitting again because of the ridiculous way it is run.
It's like Uni student politics.
If you cannot have a rational debate with someone who disagrees with you, then we might as well all chuck it in.

I worry about you Barney, he may have the best intentions of helping the poorest and trying to reduce inequalities, but his ideas on how to finance them are looney tunes.

Borrowing money at historical low interest rates to finance social problems is hardly radical.
It's how things were done before Osborne decided to punish the innocent while happily bailing out his mates in the banking industry.

Austerity has unfortunately become the norm and much of it is unnecessary.

I also support nationalisation of all essential utilities. The huge profits made from electric, gas, water should be returned to the treasury, not into dividends to already rich people.
Private shareholding should contain risk and there isn't any in those markets.

If I'm radical, then I'm happy to be that.

Don't even get me started on chasing GDP and its effect on our environment.

[Ray Scully]

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Borrowing money at historical low interest rates to finance social problems is hardly radical.
It's how things were done before Osborne decided to punish the innocent while happily bailing out his mates in the banking industry.

Austerity has unfortunately become the norm and much of it is unnecessary.

I also support nationalisation of all essential utilities. The huge profits made from electric, gas, water should be returned to the treasury, not into dividends to already rich people.
Private shareholding should contain risk and there isn't any in those markets.

If I'm radical, then I'm happy to be that.

Don't even get me started on chasing GDP and its effect on our environment.
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Good God I need to have a lie down, Barney! it appears we are on the same page on this

[towny44]

I find it hard to believe that as bad as this Tory rabble are, they still look quite sane when compared to the stance that Labour is currently taking.

To suspend a member for voting for another party may well be in the constitution, but to publicly enact it, when under investigation for racism, is total madness.

Who is advising these people?

I quit when Corbyn was elected, then quite warmed to him and re-joined because of his fiscal policies, and now look like quitting again because of the ridiculous way it is run.
It's like Uni student politics.
If you cannot have a rational debate with someone who disagrees with you, then we might as well all chuck it in.

I worry about you Barney, he may have the best intentions of helping the poorest and trying to reduce inequalities, but his ideas on how to finance them are looney tunes.

Borrowing money at historical low interest rates to finance social problems is hardly radical.
It's how things were done before Osborne decided to punish the innocent while happily bailing out his mates in the banking industry.

Austerity has unfortunately become the norm and much of it is unnecessary.

I also support nationalisation of all essential utilities. The huge profits made from electric, gas, water should be returned to the treasury, not into dividends to already rich people.
Private shareholding should contain risk and there isn't any in those markets.

If I'm radical, then I'm happy to be that.

Don't even get me started on chasing GDP and its effect on our environment.

Borrowing money for infrastructure projects is fine, but borrowing to finance social problems is ridiculous, these need to be funded out of tax and if tax revenues fall then all such funding has to bear its share of the reduction, your way leads to bankruptcy unless it is very short term.

Austerity was needed to kerb local authority profligacy which had grown out of hand under Blair and Brown, which it has and now it can eased but slowly.

Nationalisation of utilities might be sensible, but then you end up with them all vying for the same capital spending pot as schools, hospitals, roads etc, which is going to grow alarmingly if pfi is now dead. Currently we are seeing all our old cast iron gas pipes being replaced with plastic, the first such change in years, which I assume is being financed by the privatised utilities.

I remember an old labour work colleague telling me something his Dad, also a labour supporter, said; "under a Labour govt the wealth is shared out more evenly, but under a Tory govt everyone is better off". I don't think I can better that for a fair assessment.

[Manoverboard]

I find it hard to believe that as bad as this Tory rabble are, they still look quite sane when compared to the stance that Labour is currently taking.

To suspend a member for voting for another party may well be in the constitution, but to publicly enact it, when under investigation for racism, is total madness.

Who is advising these people?

I quit when Corbyn was elected, then quite warmed to him and re-joined because of his fiscal policies, and now look like quitting again because of the ridiculous way it is run.
It's like Uni student politics.
If you cannot have a rational debate with someone who disagrees with you, then we might as well all chuck it in.

I worry about you Barney, he may have the best intentions of helping the poorest and trying to reduce inequalities, but his ideas on how to finance them are looney tunes.

The Trade Unions and Ken McClusky-ish in particular would be my guess.*


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[Ray Scully]

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No deal top deck

[oldbluefox]

[Meg 50]

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[Stephen]

For some reason my letter of proposal got returned. And I had to pay the postage.

Miserable lot.

[screwy]

Not surprised Stephen, we’ve seen the mess the last Tory leaders from the “ Souf” have made of it,time for a good Northerner ...

[Stephen]

Not surprised Stephen, we’ve seen the mess the last Tory leaders from the “ Souf” have made of it,time for a good Northerner ...

[Mervyn and Trish]

Is Towny applying?

[Stephen]

He's beyond hope I thought

[towny44]

I thought Hope was in Derbyshire, Merv will be much nearer.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Quite right but I've thought long and hard and decided not to apply. Rather stick burning matches under my finger nails.

[barney]

I'd bet that Boris Johnson can't believe his luck getting all of this free publicity just a week before the close of candidates.

He'll be hoping for a quickish election process so he has less time to muck up.

I've yet to be remotely impressed by any of them.

That Rory Stewart is like some kind of Bond baddie.

[mavismumakrill]

Whoever gets in they won't get anything extra from the EU as they have said the done deal had been signed and will not be changed. Can't see anybody doing any good heading any party at the moment. Maybe Donald Trump???

[Ray Scully]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48478706
What an endorsement. It can now only be a 'shoe in' when it comes to the party faithful voting.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Would he be as good as Trump!

[oldbluefox]

I would be happy with somebody who did what they said they were going to do and did not fudge the issue once they get into power. But does such a politician exist?
Behaviour from a good many of them over the past 2-3 years would suggest to the contrary which goes some way to explain the political dismay we are experiencing at the moment.

[towny44]

Politicians have always promised far more than they could possibly deliver, and then been held to account by the media, so not much has changed really, except now it's also crowd funded losers looking for their day of glory who seem to want to hold politicians to account as well.
Like Mavis I doubt anyone is likely to make any better job of it than TM did, but I do worry about those like Javid who want to leave on 31st Oct with or without a deal and rule out revoking article 50, or another vote or seeking an extension.

[screwy]

I would be happy with somebody who did what they said they were going to do and did not fudge the issue once they get into power. But does such a politician exist?
Behaviour from a good many of them over the past 2-3 years would suggest to the contrary which goes some way to explain the political dismay we are experiencing at the moment.

I think the problem doesn’t lie with the leader who probably does mean to fulfill what they said,it’s more the self serving ministers who thwart them.

[oldbluefox]

I think the problem doesn’t lie with the leader who probably does mean to fulfill what they said,it’s more the self serving ministers who thwart them.

.............except Tony Blair!!! (Can't stand the smarmy little creep and wouldn't believe a word he said!!!)

[Mervyn and Trish]

Well if the prosecution of Boris succeeds you'd hope he'd be next, having taken us to war on the basis of his dodgy dossier.