Brexit

[Stephen]

I'm on the door that night

[Jack Staff]

Maybe you should read Article 50 Jack. Basically all is agreed or nothing is agreed. Yes it is true part of the £40 billion is settling our bar bill. About half of it. The other half is for several rounds of drinks the other members will enjoy at our expense after we've left the party.

So if we crash out and don't pay how will they get the money? Send the boys round?

So we just welch on the deal huh?

What country is going to do any deals with us then? Trade deals are built on trust and that takes a long time to build, all blown away for £40 billion. I don't think even this government is that stupid.

[oldbluefox]

Scottish Nationalists want to be free of rule from another country. (Before you say anything, Brussels is not a country).
English Nationalists want to carry on ruling the other Home nations = swivel eyed loony racists.

Scottish Nationalists are actually patriots, wanting what is best for their country.
English Nationalists just want to tell everyone their country is best. = swivel eyed loony racists.

Scottish Nationalists are inclusive, trying to build a better Scotland for everyone.
English Nationalists are ethnic, seeking to unite the indigenous population against the perceived threat of outsiders. = swivel eyed loony racists.

Scottish Nationalists give away baby boxes.
English Nationalists run uncontrollably around their capital city, fighting with Police, giving Nazi salutes, demanding someone is released from prison who pleaded guilty. = swivel eyed loony racists.

English Nationalists actions will lead to the break up of their (real) country (the UK), not very patriotic. = swivel eyed loony racists.

Have you been out in the sun Jack? That's the biggest load of piffle I have seen. What a distorted view of England you have. Give me strength!!!

[oldbluefox]

So we just welch on the deal huh?

If there is no deal we are not welching on anything. No deal, no money.

[Jack Staff]

So we just welch on the deal huh?

If there is no deal we are not welching on anything. No deal, no money.

Sadly the rest of the world will not see it that way.

[Jack Staff]

Scottish Nationalists want to be free of rule from another country. (Before you say anything, Brussels is not a country).
English Nationalists want to carry on ruling the other Home nations = swivel eyed loony racists.

Scottish Nationalists are actually patriots, wanting what is best for their country.
English Nationalists just want to tell everyone their country is best. = swivel eyed loony racists.

Scottish Nationalists are inclusive, trying to build a better Scotland for everyone.
English Nationalists are ethnic, seeking to unite the indigenous population against the perceived threat of outsiders. = swivel eyed loony racists.

Scottish Nationalists give away baby boxes.
English Nationalists run uncontrollably around their capital city, fighting with Police, giving Nazi salutes, demanding someone is released from prison who pleaded guilty. = swivel eyed loony racists.

English Nationalists actions will lead to the break up of their (real) country (the UK), not very patriotic. = swivel eyed loony racists.

Have you been out in the sun Jack? That's the biggest load of piffle I have seen. What a distorted view of England you have. Give me strength!!!

While I admit I might have been a little 'frank', over zealous even, my hatred of English nationalists knows no bounds.
They are the very worst of this country.
They are Oswald Mosley's legacy to us all.

[Jack Staff]

What a distorted view of England you have. Give me strength!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44427518

[Mervyn and Trish]

What a distorted view of England you have. Give me strength!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44427518

"Hundreds" were demonstrating. A tiny minority. Millions of others were not. Your posting of this link fully supports Foxy's comment..

[Jack Staff]

What a distorted view of England you have. Give me strength!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44427518

"Hundreds" were demonstrating. A tiny minority. Millions of others were not. Your posting of this link fully supports Foxy's comment..

My post fully supports the difference between Scottish and English nationalists, which was the point.

[oldbluefox]

You clutch at any straw blowing in the wind Jack. To say the English Defence League is representative of English nationalists in general is so ludicrous it does you no credit to justify anything in your earlier post.
I take it you have not heard of Scottish Dawn.

[Jack Staff]

You clutch at any straw blowing in the wind Jack. To say the English Defence League is representative of English nationalists in general is so ludicrous it does you no credit to justify anything in your earlier post.
I take it you have not heard of Scottish Dawn.

Thank you, you are correct. Luckily I had not heard of them. Good to know the English do not have a monopoly on brain dead knuckle draggers.

But before you start extolling the virtues of English nationalists, perhaps consider....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

[towny44]

So we just welch on the deal huh?

If there is no deal we are not welching on anything. No deal, no money.

Welching on deals is OK for remainers but not for bent over backwards UK negotiators against intransigent EU bureaucrats. Nice one Jack.

[Jack Staff]

Welching on deals is OK for remainers but not for bent over backwards UK negotiators against intransigent EU bureaucrats. Nice one Jack.

Until 23rd June 2016 I lived in a democratic country.

The UK negotiators will adopt any position they want, usually sitting down for lunch if Davis is anything to go by.

[oldbluefox]

You clutch at any straw blowing in the wind Jack. To say the English Defence League is representative of English nationalists in general is so ludicrous it does you no credit to justify anything in your earlier post.
I take it you have not heard of Scottish Dawn.

Thank you, you are correct. Luckily I had not heard of them. Good to know the English do not have a monopoly on brain dead knuckle draggers.

But before you start extolling the virtues of English nationalists, perhaps consider....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

[towny44]

Welching on deals is OK for remainers but not for bent over backwards UK negotiators against intransigent EU bureaucrats. Nice one Jack.

Until 23rd June 2016 I lived in a democratic country.
Jack, even you must see the idiocy in that statement, if not there really is no hope for you.
The UK negotiators will adopt any position they want, usually sitting down for lunch if Davis is anything to go by.
Surely Davis is only there to rubber stamp any agreements the civil servants have managed to squeeze out of their EU counterparts, no wonder he has to sit around twiddling his thumbs so often.

[screwy]

Welching on deals is OK for remainers but not for bent over backwards UK negotiators against intransigent EU bureaucrats. Nice one Jack.

Until 23rd June 2016 I lived in a democratic country.

The UK negotiators will adopt any position they want, usually sitting down for lunch if Davis is anything to go by.

On the 23rd June 2016 the people voted to Leave, is that not Democracy.??

[barney]

Welching on deals is OK for remainers but not for bent over backwards UK negotiators against intransigent EU bureaucrats. Nice one Jack.

Until 23rd June 2016 I lived in a democratic country.

The UK negotiators will adopt any position they want, usually sitting down for lunch if Davis is anything to go by.

On the 23rd June 2016 the people voted to Leave, is that not Democracy.??

Not if you are part of the new Anti Democratic Movement Screwy !

[Jack Staff]

Not if you are part of the new Anti Democratic Movement Screwy !

Democracy is continuous. If it ends on a specific date it ceases to be democratic.

... and we prefer the term the 'Bresistance'!

[Stephen]

We can always rely on our leaders to do the right thing

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[Ray Scully]

We can always rely on our leaders to do the right thing


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[screwy]

Not if you are part of the new Anti Democratic Movement Screwy !

Democracy is continuous. If it ends on a specific date it ceases to be democratic.

... and we prefer the term the 'Bresistance'!

Yeah,Right whatever..

[Mervyn and Trish]

Until 23rd June 2016 I lived in a democratic country.

Democracy means we have a vote and the majority under the rules set at the start of the process wins. Seemples.

Not that the majority wins but they were wrong because they're all brain dead muppets who misunderstood the question.

And must therefore bow down before the minority of intellectual heavyweights who, despite their immense IQs, and being told repeatedly so by the campaigners on both sides, missed the simple fact that leaving the EU means leaving all its institutions, including the single market and the customs union.

Not staying in one or both but not having a say in how they are run.

Sorry I do not intend to insult most of the people who voted to Remain. Just the small minorty of them (so a small minority of a minority) who persist in insulting those of us who voted the other way and trying to undermine the result.

Democracy means we were all entitled to a vote and to freely hold the opinions we do. It means there will always be winners and losers.

Or at the next General Election will be all be told the winners are actually the losers because the politicians lied to them so the result is invalid? Unlike the politicians on the losing side who are invariably honest.

Come on Jack. I have the impression you are not a teenager. Were you never on the losing side in any democratic vote before?

[Jack Staff]

Until 23rd June 2016 I lived in a democratic country.

Democracy means we have a vote and the majority under the rules set at the start of the process wins. Seemples.

Not that the majority wins but they were wrong because they're all brain dead muppets who misunderstood the question.

And must therefore bow down before the minority of intellectual heavyweights who, despite their immense IQs, and being told repeatedly so by the campaigners on both sides, missed the simple fact that leaving the EU means leaving all its institutions, including the single market and the customs union.

Not staying in one or both but not having a say in how they are run.

Sorry I do not intend to insult most of the people who voted to Remain. Just the small minorty of them (so a small minority of a minority) who persist in insulting those of us who voted the other way and trying to undermine the result.

Democracy means we were all entitled to a vote and to freely hold the opinions we do. It means there will always be winners and losers.

Or at the next General Election will be all be told the winners are actually the losers because the politicians lied to them so the result is invalid? Unlike the politicians on the losing side who are invariably honest.

Come on Jack. I have the impression you are not a teenager. Were you never on the losing side in any democratic vote before?

It is now the Brexiters job to take the rest of the population with them to the sunlit uplands.
To deliver on the promises.
To convince the people that they will be better off, that they were not in fact lied to.
It is not my fault that you have failed to convince me.
It is not the EU's fault that they are doing what they said they would right from the start.
You won, get on with it and stop blaming everyone else for the failure.

[towny44]

Hang on a minute Jack we are not in any way considering our decision was a failure, and hopefully we will never be put in a situation to even contemplate anything other than success and the total freedom from the EU.

[Manoverboard]

We will be leaving …. oh yes we will