Current Affairs

[Manoverboard]

Anyone else going on a rave during the Bank Holiday ?

We've had Wales or was it the Forest of Dean plus Leeds, Sussex and now Thetford in Norfolk but also Corbyn's brother protesting about ' Lockdown ' in London. All will be issued with fines up to £10,000 and some will presumably appeal. Totally irresponsible the lot of them

[barney]

The police didn’t do the same to the gypsy horse festival.
They turned a blind eye.
Mind you, who would take on hundreds of travellers?

What will they do with Extinction Rebellion ?

Nick or Twist?

[Stephen]

The passengers and crew on the Tui flight from Zante aren't any better. What is the matter with people, do they think they have some god given immunity to this virus. Absolute thoughtless, brain dead idiots.

[Manoverboard]

The police didn’t do the same to the gypsy horse festival.
They turned a blind eye.
Mind you, who would take on hundreds of travellers?

A Rave is an illegal gathering whereas the Appleby Horse Fair is enshrined in Law Bye Laws and Tradition .... ish ?

[barney]

Still hundreds gathering in breach of covid guidelines.
I don’t blame them by the way.
Taking on pikeys is a no no.

[david63]

As with everything these days there some people who do not think that the rules (whatever they are) apply to them so they do not have to adhere to them.

There are also many who because they have not been directly affected (or even infected) believe that it is all over and they can return to the old normal.

And then we have the idiots who think that it is all a hoax and a means for the Government to control everyone.

None of this is helped by having a different set of rules for each of the four nations, and that is before the local lockdown rules.

However some rules are quite easy to understand - no more than 30 people meeting outdoors does not translate into 3,000 at a rave.

If people are not prepared to follow the rules that are in force at the moment then the other option will be a "police state" where anyone breaching the rules will get "hauled away" and they will only have themselves to blame - and just wait for the howls of protest over that. The trouble is that, as always, it is the selfish few who end up spoiling it for everybody else.

[Mervyn and Trish]

As with everything these days there some people who do not think that the rules (whatever they are) apply to them so they do not have to adhere to them.

There are also many who because they have not been directly affected (or even infected) believe that it is all over and they can return to the old normal.

And then we have the idiots who think that it is all a hoax and a means for the Government to control everyone.

None of this is helped by having a different set of rules for each of the four nations, and that is before the local lockdown rules.

However some rules are quite easy to understand - no more than 30 people meeting outdoors does not translate into 3,000 at a rave.

If people are not prepared to follow the rules that are in force at the moment then the other option will be a "police state" where anyone breaching the rules will get "hauled away" and they will only have themselves to blame - and just wait for the howls of protest over that. The trouble is that, as always, it is the selfish few who end up spoiling it for everybody else.

The different rules in the four nations don't bother me too much (other than trumped up would be emperors flexing their political muscles when it would be simpler to follow the UK lead) because I only live in one of them and don't much care what the others are doing.

But you're right about people thinking rules don't apply to them. I bet the idiots flouting the Covid rules are the same ones who wear shorts and flip flops on formal nights on cruises

[towny44]

Maybe the police should organise a giant rave for all those desperate to go to at least one this year. I guess the big field at Glastonbury would be available.
Of course all those attending would have to bring enough food and drink for 2 weeks quarantine afterwards, and they would need to clean their own toilets and washrooms, and clean up all the litter before they leave.
And finally any caught trying to sneak out early, would be shot.

[Manoverboard]

Still hundreds gathering in breach of covid guidelines.
I don’t blame them by the way.
Taking on pikeys is a no no.

But entirely acceptable if they keep supplying the Chief Constable with placid ponies for their Grand daughters

[david63]

So Labour's answer to the problems is to have GCSE & A level exams two months later next year to make up for lost time.

Here's another suggestion - reduce the length of school holidays, extend the hours the pupils are at school, even open schools on a Saturday and as a last resort the pupils could be a little pro-active and do some extra studying in their own time.

[screwy]

What....and have the poor teachers working longer....

[david63]

What....and have the poor teachers working longer....

Sorry, I forgot about the snowflakes!

Oh how times have changed - when I was working we worked whatever hours/days were needed in order to do the job.

We keep hearing about the teachers only doing everything in the best interests of the pupils - perhaps it's time to start putting that into practice.

[CaroleF]

When I was a Year Head in a large Comprehensive outside Portsmouth we had a Saturday Detention. A pupil could be put into this for up to 3 hours, commencing at 9am. It was usually used for persistent truancy but could also be used for a pupil who was very behind with work because of laziness, not doing homework, not because they found the work difficult. This session was supervised by either a Year Head or a Head of Department - we took it in turns. If a form or subject teacher wanted to put a pupil into Saturday Detention then they had to have the agreement of either the Year Head or the Head of Department.

I remember having to get up in time on a Saturday morning to go in to do my stint supervising. Work had to have been set. Did it work? Yes, on the whole it did. Can you see that happening now? This was in the 1970s.

Carole

[barney]

When I was a Year Head in a large Comprehensive outside Portsmouth we had a Saturday Detention. A pupil could be put into this for up to 3 hours, commencing at 9am. It was usually used for persistent truancy but could also be used for a pupil who was very behind with work because of laziness, not doing homework, not because they found the work difficult. This session was supervised by either a Year Head or a Head of Department - we took it in turns. If a form or subject teacher wanted to put a pupil into Saturday Detention then they had to have the agreement of either the Year Head or the Head of Department.

I remember having to get up in time on a Saturday morning to go in to do my stint supervising. Work had to have been set. Did it work? Yes, on the whole it did. Can you see that happening now? This was in the 1970s.

Carole

I was the one not doing my homework.
I wanted to be playing football and would happily take the consequences.
I preferred the cane to detention.
I only took an interest in educating myself after I left school.
For my adult life, I’ve been like a sponge and have had two totally different but successful careers.

[Onelife]

When I was a Year Head in a large Comprehensive outside Portsmouth we had a Saturday Detention. A pupil could be put into this for up to 3 hours, commencing at 9am. It was usually used for persistent truancy but could also be used for a pupil who was very behind with work because of laziness, not doing homework, not because they found the work difficult. This session was supervised by either a Year Head or a Head of Department - we took it in turns. If a form or subject teacher wanted to put a pupil into Saturday Detention then they had to have the agreement of either the Year Head or the Head of Department.

I remember having to get up in time on a Saturday morning to go in to do my stint supervising. Work had to have been set. Did it work? Yes, on the whole it did. Can you see that happening now? This was in the 1970s.

Carole

I was the one not doing my homework.
I wanted to be playing football and would happily take the consequences.
I preferred the cane to detention.
I only took an interest in educating myself after I left school.
For my adult life, I’ve been like a sponge and have had two totally different but successful careers.

They obviously didn’t hit you hard enough…I can remember on one occasion I was left with blood blisters on both hands, which resulted in me not being able to pick a pen up for the rest of the afternoon. Squeak! squeak!

Talking of bad behaviour my class were the worst in the school and had the reputation to go with it.

I can’t remember many teachers who had us under control, least of all our music teacher, Mrs Smith, it was however through this teacher most of the class learnt a very valuable lesson. We had played her up throughout the lesson doing the stuff roughens do until such time that we moved on to the next victim lesson. However on this occasion I had left something behind so me and my mate Dennis went back to the class to pick it up…on entering the class Mrs Smith was in floods of tears, which, didn’t take long to work out why, we left her to get on with it but when we caught up with the rest of the class we relayed what we had witnessed, racked with guilt, we elected a spokesperson and went back and apologised to her…from that day on we were her model pupils.

[Stephen]

When I was a Year Head in a large Comprehensive outside Portsmouth we had a Saturday Detention. A pupil could be put into this for up to 3 hours, commencing at 9am. It was usually used for persistent truancy but could also be used for a pupil who was very behind with work because of laziness, not doing homework, not because they found the work difficult. This session was supervised by either a Year Head or a Head of Department - we took it in turns. If a form or subject teacher wanted to put a pupil into Saturday Detention then they had to have the agreement of either the Year Head or the Head of Department.

I remember having to get up in time on a Saturday morning to go in to do my stint supervising. Work had to have been set. Did it work? Yes, on the whole it did. Can you see that happening now? This was in
Carole

I was the one not doing my homework.
I wanted to be playing football and would happily take the consequences.
I preferred the cane to detention.
I only took an interest in educating myself after I left school.
For my adult life, I’ve been like a sponge and have had two totally different but successful careers.

They obviously didn’t hit you hard enough…I can remember on one occasion I was left with blood blisters on both hands, which resulted in me not being able to pick a pen up for the rest of the afternoon. Squeak! squeak!

Talking of bad behaviour my class were the worst in the school and had the reputation to go with it.

I can’t remember many teachers who had us under control, least of all our music teacher, Mrs Smith, it was however through this teacher most of the class learnt a very valuable lesson. We had played her up throughout the lesson doing the stuff roughens do until such time that we moved on to the next victim lesson. However on this occasion I had left something behind so me and my mate Dennis went back to the class to pick it up…on entering the class Mrs Smith was in floods of tears, which, didn’t take long to work out why, we left her to get on with it but when we caught up with the rest of the class we relayed what we had witnessed, racked with guilt, we elected a spokesperson and went back and apologised to her…from that day on we were her model pupils.

Bunch of woosies

[Kendhni]

Just reading this article about the flight from Zante https://uk.news.yahoo.com/zante-flight- ... 26911.html

There are only 2 possibilities here. Either these people really are that stupid that they have not figured out how to wear a mask OR they are just selfish filth that think rules only apply to others? I know there are some prissie little snowflakes that don't like to wear masks in case it damages their makeup or they think they don;t look cool, but airlines MUST enforce the rules.

[Kendhni]

Personally I liked (but don't condone) the alleged response of the lady in ASDA who complained that customers were not wearing masks. When the manager told her that they could not enforce the law and there was nothing they could do about it, she lit up a cigarette and walked around the store smoking.

[barney]

I wasn’t a disruptive pupil, I just wasn’t engaged at all.
I flourished in subjects that interested me.
They couldn’t figure out how I would get an A in English, History and PE but so useless in Maths and Science.
The truth was I wasn’t interested in them.
I suppose I was quite stubborn and nothing could entice me. Third child syndrome?

So, I never caused any problems, I just couldn’t be bothered to do it and wasn’t really worried about the consequences.
I still have a similar attitude as an adult.
My mantra has always been, you live how you want, I’ll live how I want, and as long as there’s no clash, we’ll all get along fine.

[barney]

Just reading this article about the flight from Zante https://uk.news.yahoo.com/zante-flight- ... 26911.html

There are only 2 possibilities here. Either these people really are that stupid that they have not figured out how to wear a mask OR they are just selfish filth that think rules only apply to others? I know there are some prissie little snowflakes that don't like to wear masks in case it damages their makeup or they think they don;t look cool, but airlines MUST enforce the rules.

I 100% agree with your statement except how exactly the airlines enforce the rules at 30,000 feet Ken.
They can hardly pull over
Unless it’s a criminal offence and the offenders can be arrested on landing, then we justified have to rely on the goodwill of our fellow man.

[Kendhni]

Just reading this article about the flight from Zante https://uk.news.yahoo.com/zante-flight- ... 26911.html

There are only 2 possibilities here. Either these people really are that stupid that they have not figured out how to wear a mask OR they are just selfish filth that think rules only apply to others? I know there are some prissie little snowflakes that don't like to wear masks in case it damages their makeup or they think they don;t look cool, but airlines MUST enforce the rules.

I 100% agree with your statement except how exactly the airlines enforce the rules at 30,000 feet Ken.
They can hardly pull over
Unless it’s a criminal offence and the offenders can be arrested on landing, then we justified have to rely on the goodwill of our fellow man.

They enforce it by telling them behave like a civilised human being. If they refuse then the captain should be open to diverting to the nearest airport, offloading them and sending them the bill. Stupid people generally only catch on when it hits them in the pocket (or better still between the ir pockets).

[barney]

If they were civilised human beings they would hardly be acting like that in the first place Ken.
We’ve only flown twice in about the last four years and both flights were uneventful but should anyone kick off at altitude, there’s not really much anyone can do.

[oldbluefox]

The pilot should have had them all seated with seat belts on. Any without masks should have been told to mask up. If they refused the airline would be able to trace them from their seat number and then retrospective action could be taken either by a fine (difficult to enforce) or a 12 month flying ban which could be enforced on all airlines as they would have passport details, name and address. These clowns should not be allowed near an aeroplane for a long, long time.

[Onelife]

The Governments wishy washy face mask wearing policies are to blame for breaches of none compliance. Had the government made it mandatory to wear face masks the cabin steward would have had two options…. wear them or get arrested when you get off the plane.

One woman who was on the flight said that passengers didn’t seem educated about wearing face masks…she clearly wasn’t educated about going on a package holiday…they’re all covidiots if you ask me.

If only you loved Theresa, Foxy, we could have become kindred spirits

[Ray Scully]

Bring back Theresa

Well I feel sure that she with her cabinet would have made a better fist of things.