Current Affairs 2023
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screwy
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Re: Current Affairs 2023
Such a shame.!
Ok,I’ll try saying it with conviction.
Such a shame…..Nope,didn’t work.
Ok,I’ll try saying it with conviction.
Such a shame…..Nope,didn’t work.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Current Affairs 2023
But on 6 o'clock news the lead is a shortage of fruit and veg. Ready, steady, go, panic buy everyone.
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david63
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The bit I like is that Tesco are applying a limit of three on loose or packaged items which means you can buy three loose peppers or three packs of three peppers - go work that one out!Mervyn and Trish wrote: 22 Feb 2023, 18:37But on 6 o'clock news the lead is a shortage of fruit and veg. Ready, steady, go, panic buy everyone.
Now what shall I do with the three cucumbers that I have bought just in case there is a shortage in the next few weeks as I don't normally eat cucumber.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Now you know that's daft. But there are others out there who will buy three because they can and throw them away next week when they rot.
As for us, we ordered 4 loose tomatoes with our Sainsbury delivery but they hadn't got them so they sent us a prepack of 6 instead.
As for us, we ordered 4 loose tomatoes with our Sainsbury delivery but they hadn't got them so they sent us a prepack of 6 instead.
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Stephen
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Typical media. The slightest mention of shortages and the shelves empty. We were in Morrisons yesterday afternoon and not a tomato to be seen. So much for rationing.
I’ll be filling out my own compo form later.
I’ll be filling out my own compo form later.
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towny44
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Re: Current Affairs 2023
There are currently no shortages on Iona, but I am sure some passengers will be eartng extra portions just in case!!!!
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Stephen
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Everyone will be using the buffet on last day John and then scurrying back to their cabins ladened with tommies to take home 
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Ray B
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Re: Current Affairs 2023
Strangely just outside the City we have two of the biggest green houses in the country predicted to produce 12.5% or 20+ tons of tomatoes per day, add that to all the other large houses growing tomatoes, how many tons do we get through every day in this country?
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Onelife
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In Britain we eat around 500,000 tonnes of fresh tomatoes every year. That's 6oz or 160g per person per week - the equivalent of two classic British tomatoes per week, or more than 100 per year.Ray B wrote: 23 Feb 2023, 10:26Strangely just outside the City we have two of the biggest green houses in the country predicted to produce 12.5% or 20+ tons of tomatoes per day, add that to all the other large houses growing tomatoes, how many tons do we get through every day in this country?
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Mervyn and Trish
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That's about right for us. We get through 4-6 per week for the two of us. Fewer in winter, more in summer when we eat more salads.
Though obviously we'll need to stockpile at least two dozen a week at the moment.
Though obviously we'll need to stockpile at least two dozen a week at the moment.
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Ray B
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Never have given the amount of tomatoes consumed in the UK a second thought, they are normally always available. While the figures are incredible, when broken down makes sense. We get through a pack of six or a pack of two vines of cherry.
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Gill W
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Re: Current Affairs 2023
Taken from the Met Police websiteMervyn and Trish wrote: 16 Feb 2023, 18:11Sorry OL. I still disagree strongly. The colour etc of the perpetrator/victim should have no bearing on either the verdict or the sentence. In the present case it is irrelevant whether the murdered girl is transgender or not. I'm not even sure why the media feel the need to mention it in every report. She was a human being who has been murdered. That is all that matters.
I should add it is not Moby I am criticising. It's the concept of a "hate" crime that attempts to make some victims more worthy than others on the basis of colour/gender/sexuality etc alone.
I fully accept his domestic violence example. That has nothing to do with the race etc of the parties. It is about a possible motive based on provocation and behaviour of the injured party. Different entirely.
'Hate crimes and hate incidents
In most crimes it is something the victim has in their possession or control that motivates the offender to commit the crime. With hate crime it is ‘who’ the victim is, or ‘what’ the victim appears to be that motivates the offender to commit the crime.
A hate crime is defined as 'Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person's race or perceived race; religion or perceived religion; sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation; disability or perceived disability and any crime motivated by hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender.'
A hate incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someone’s prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender.
Not all hate incidents will amount to criminal offences, but it is equally important that these are reported and recorded by the police.
Evidence of the hate element is not a requirement. You do not need to personally perceive the incident to be hate related. It would be enough if another person, a witness or even a police officer thought that the incident was hate related'
https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice ... ate-crime/
It's not saying that the victim of a hate crime is any more worthy than, for example, the victim of a robbery. It's just a way of categorising motive.
By the way, if anybody is short of tomatoes, all you need to do is pop over to the EU, they have got mounds of beautiful tomatoes stacked up in their shops. Strangely, the 'bad weather' hasn't affected their supplies
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Gill W
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Re: Current Affairs 2023
I read somewhere that the UK producers of tomatoes are struggling to heat the greenhouses, due to the cost of energyRay B wrote: 23 Feb 2023, 10:26Strangely just outside the City we have two of the biggest green houses in the country predicted to produce 12.5% or 20+ tons of tomatoes per day, add that to all the other large houses growing tomatoes, how many tons do we get through every day in this country?
Gill
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Gill W
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Re: Current Affairs 2023
You're probably getting emergency deliveries of EU tomatoes!towny44 wrote: 23 Feb 2023, 09:01There are currently no shortages on Iona, but I am sure some passengers will be eartng extra portions just in case!!!!
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towny44
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My Sainsbury tomatoes come from Morocco, is there likely to be a shortage of those?
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Onelife
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I don’t know if this is feasible but I have often wondered why we don’t utilise the heat that is expelled through central heating systems…the outside pipe could be extended to pass through glass houses with fumes/gases exiting on the outside…the heat passing through the pipe, would I have thought be adequate to grow many fruits such as tomatoes during the colder months?
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Stephen
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Better get some tomato plants before they run out
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oldbluefox
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If only we'd have stayed in the EU our tomato plants wouldn't have been stricken down by frost and there would not have been problems with the cost of heating. Our supermarket shelves would have been overflowing with beautiful tomatoes.
I was taught to be cautious
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Gill W
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The explanation the BBC has given is that there has been cold weather in Morocco, affecting the tomato crop. If that's where your tomatoes are from, you might not see many when you get home.towny44 wrote: 23 Feb 2023, 15:40
My Sainsbury tomatoes come from Morocco, is there likely to be a shortage of those?
You'd best bring some home with you, as the EU doesn't seem to be experiencing the problems we are having
At this time of year, we import the bulk of our tomatoes.oldbluefox wrote: 23 Feb 2023, 16:20If only we'd have stayed in the EU our tomato plants wouldn't have been stricken down by frost and there would not have been problems with the cost of heating. Our supermarket shelves would have been overflowing with beautiful tomatoes.
Unfortunately, leaving the EU has made everything more challenging
Gill
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Mervyn and Trish
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It's funny given the definition that the cops never appear to apply the hate crime label to black thugs attacking white people. Clearly white people are so wonderful noone hates them.
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Stephen
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oldbluefox wrote: 23 Feb 2023, 16:20If only we'd have stayed in the EU our tomato plants wouldn't have been stricken down by frost and there would not have been problems with the cost of heating. Our supermarket shelves would have been overflowing with beautiful tomatoes.
I said all along it was the wrong thing to do leaving the EU
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oldbluefox
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You're absolutely right Stephen. I knew it would all go pear tomato shaped. We should never have left. I blame Merv.Stephen wrote: 23 Feb 2023, 16:44oldbluefox wrote: 23 Feb 2023, 16:20If only we'd have stayed in the EU our tomato plants wouldn't have been stricken down by frost and there would not have been problems with the cost of heating. Our supermarket shelves would have been overflowing with beautiful tomatoes.
I said all along it was the wrong thing to do leaving the EU![]()
I was taught to be cautious
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Mervyn and Trish
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I campaigned vigorously for Remain. I was very committed to the future of salad. Don't you remember?
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Ray B
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Re: Current Affairs 2023
Gill,Gill W wrote: 23 Feb 2023, 15:17
I read somewhere that the UK producers of tomatoes are struggling to heat the greenhouses, due to the cost of energy
the greenhouses near to us are brand new all singing and dancing jobs covering more than 13 hectares or larger than the O2 arena.
Built next to the sewage works they take residual heat from the works and used in heat pumps heat the houses, electricity is supplied by combined heat and power adding more available heat and Co2 from the plant is pumped into the houses to speed the ripening process.
Having said all that they do use gas for the CHP plant and may be effected by the sudden increase in cost.
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