Covid Jabs - again

[Onelife]

Don't say that Foxy. Keith will get the hump

I don’t bend over for nobody, which is more than can be said for some on this forum

[towny44]

Don't say that Foxy. Keith will get the hump

I don’t bend over for nobody, which is more than can be said for some on this forum

Name names or keep schtum.

[Mervyn and Trish]

How does he know would be my question.

[Gill W]

Funnily enough cancer and heart disease have impacts other than death too, many far more serious and for far more people than Covid. There you go. I talked about it.

Is it a competition between illnesses, though?

The illnesses you mentioned existed before the pandemic, but we now have a new illness can which cause long term health impacts, not only Long Covid, but can trigger autoimmune disorders, diabetes, strokes and heart attacks. Covid has added to the existing raft of health problems, and it looks like, as a population, we are going to be sicker than before.

I think,at population level, people aren't aware of what's happening. That's why, at some point when the penny finals drops, there's going to be a lot of regret and anger at the way things have been done in the last few years.

[david63]

That's why, at some point when the penny finals drops, there's going to be a lot of regret and anger at the way things have been done in the last few years.

And with the benefit of hindsight what, in your opinion, should have been done differently?

[towny44]

Funnily enough cancer and heart disease have impacts other than death too, many far more serious and for far more people than Covid. There you go. I talked about it.

Is it a competition between illnesses, though?

The illnesses you mentioned existed before the pandemic, but we now have a new illness can which cause long term health impacts, not only Long Covid, but can trigger autoimmune disorders, diabetes, strokes and heart attacks. Covid has added to the existing raft of health problems, and it looks like, as a population, we are going to be sicker than before.

I think,at population level, people aren't aware of what's happening. That's why, at some point when the penny finals drops, there's going to be a lot of regret and anger at the way things have been done in the last few years.

Ate you absolutely sure your name isn't Cassandra?

[Mervyn and Trish]

That's why, at some point when the penny finals drops, there's going to be a lot of regret and anger at the way things have been done in the last few years.

And with the benefit of hindsight what, in your opinion, should have been done differently?

I'd be interested in that answer too because your statement feels more like a political point than a medical one.

I know you've disagreed with practically everything Boris did from Brexit onwards. But across the world governments tried just about every approach from total shutdown to nothing at all and the outcome has not been dramatically different anywhere.

[Gill W]

I'm not falling for 'what would you have done differently'.

For one thing, over the last few years, I've said what I would have done at that point in time, at some length. I can't be bothered to regurgitate all of that at this point and it makes no difference to where we are now.

For another thing, just because I choose to discuss this, it doesn't mean that it's my job to put it right.

Lastly Boris Johnson, or the Conservative party have not even crossed my mind in this particular discussion - although, if people on this forum think it's about Johnson, it may go some way to explain the general ... er ... reluctance to talk

This is a global issue, and many governments seem to be taking to same approach - Covid is no longer an problem and populations aren't aware of anything that's currently going on relating to Covid. I feel certain Starmer and Labour would be taking the same approach.

So we have populations who are largely oblivious, and in a couple of years time, maybe sooner, I suspect that populations are going to question why they were kept in the dark (the current approach)

[towny44]

I'm not falling for 'what would you have done differently'.

For one thing, over the last few years, I've said what I would have done at that point in time, at some length. I can't be bothered to regurgitate all of that at this point and it makes no difference to where we are now.

For another thing, just because I choose to discuss this, it doesn't mean that it's my job to put it right.

Lastly Boris Johnson, or the Conservative party have not even crossed my mind in this particular discussion - although, if people on this forum think it's about Johnson, it may go some way to explain the general ... er ... reluctance to talk

This is a global issue, and many governments seem to be taking to same approach - Covid is no longer an problem and populations aren't aware of anything that's currently going on relating to Covid. I feel certain Starmer and Labour would be taking the same approach.

So we have populations who are largely oblivious, and in a couple of years time, maybe sooner, I suspect that populations are going to question why they were kept in the dark (the current approach)

What are these issues that we are being kept in the dark about, and who are the experts that are predicting major health concerns from ignoring these effects of covid?
If there was something sinister going on then I am sure the BBC will be investigating and doing a Panorama expose about them.

[Ray B]

This is a global issue, and many governments seem to be taking to same approach - Covid is no longer an problem and populations aren't aware of anything that's currently going on relating to Covid. I feel certain Starmer and Labour would be taking the same approach.

So we have populations who are largely oblivious, and in a couple of years time, maybe sooner, I suspect that populations are going to question why they were kept in the dark (the current approach)

I understand that the government health security agency boffins monitor and track mutations through out the world and assess the risks and spread. The current one is XBB. I. 16 being watched all over the world with growth shown to be happening in India. It is in and all over our country and at present is classed as low with five deaths attributed to it.
So whilst we do not have regular updates, work carries on tracking and monitoring covid.
If you all eligible, get the jab

[Gill W]

What are these issues that we are being kept in the dark about, and who are the experts that are predicting major health concerns from ignoring these effects of covid?
If there was something sinister going on then I am sure the BBC will be investigating and doing a Panorama expose about them.

I have a strange feeling you don’t actually read anything I post as I’ve already said what issues are coming to light.

You can search the internet as easily as I can, and I’ve gone beyond the point where I can keep providing links to things that people won’t read anyway.

If you are really interested, look beyond the BBC and the Daily Mail

I understand that the government health security agency boffins monitor and track mutations through out the world and assess the risks and spread. The current one is XBB. I. 16 being watched all over the world with growth shown to be happening in India. It is in and all over our country and at present is classed as low with five deaths attributed to it.
So whilst we do not have regular updates, work carries on tracking and monitoring covid.
If you all eligible, get the jab

Yes, that’s the current one that is causing some concern . It’s nicknamed Arcturus and the 5 deaths comes from 105 sequenced cases One of the major symptoms is apparently conjunctivitis.

[Mervyn and Trish]

There you go Towny. Switch to the Guardian and Twitter and you'll have the full story.

You'd then know that Covid is all the government's fault, it's a hoax just designed to control you, and this afternoon's alarm test is actually a signal to activate the microchips in the vaccine and steal your bank account details

On the other hand I got very full information on the latest variant from the woefully inadequate BBC.

[Gill W]

There you go Towny. Switch to the Guardian and Twitter and you'll have the full story.

You'd then know that Covid is all the government's fault, it's a hoax just designed to control you, and this afternoon's alarm test is actually a signal to activate the microchips in the vaccine and steal your bank account details

On the other hand I got very full information on the latest variant from the woefully inadequate BBC.

[Mervyn and Trish]

There you go Towny. Switch to the Guardian and Twitter and you'll have the full story.

You'd then know that Covid is all the government's fault, it's a hoax just designed to control you, and this afternoon's alarm test is actually a signal to activate the microchips in the vaccine and steal your bank account details

On the other hand I got very full information on the latest variant from the woefully inadequate BBC.

[Ray B]

All booked in for Saturday, only trouble is flu jab at my surgery 08.44,then motor two miles to another surgery for covid at 10.10..
I know there are a lot of people who are not going to bother. Me, jab away I'll take whatever that can ease any symptoms.

[Onelife]

I’ve got mine this Saturday as well, but because they said I’m special they are going to give me the flue jab at the same time

[Mervyn and Trish]

We've got both booked in a couple of weeks. One each arm again.

[Stephen]

Already had flu jab but will wait until I get back from cruise for Covid jab as I tend to feel rough afterwards

[Onelife]

Already had flu jab but will wait until I get back from cruise for Covid jab as I tend to feel rough afterwards

There are those who think you look rough most of the time…only repeating what Sir Merv told me

[screwy]

We had the flu jab on Sunday,booked in tomorrow (Thursday) for COVID jab.

[Manoverboard]

We're booked in for both ... on different days cos the surgery are doing them on different days

[Onelife]

We're booked in for both ... on different days cos the surgery are doing them on different days

Seems logical Mob…you’re clearly not as special as me

[Stephen]

We're booked in for both ... on different days cos the surgery are doing them on different days

Seems logical Mob…you’re clearly not as special as me

Special my ar*e.
They’ve just got old stock that’s just about out of date they want to off load

[Manoverboard]

Actually they don't recommend same day for them both cos some poor souls can have a bad reaction ... but I'm sure you will be just fine

[Onelife]

Actually they don't recommend same day for them both cos some poor souls can have a bad reaction ... but I'm sure you will be just fine

Thanks for the heads up on that one Mob… I'll ask them to put them in different arms