Life After Brexit
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barney
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Re: Life After Brexit
So, the Eu have to make their mind up if they want continued tariff free access to the U.K. market and whether to mothball their fishing fleets.
Tick tock!
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Onelife
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Re: Life After Brexit
I’m sure they do Barney and if they could sidestep Macron it would have been a done deal by now.barney wrote: 06 Dec 2020, 12:44So, the Eu have to make their mind up if they want continued tariff free access to the U.K. market and whether to mothball their fishing fleets.
Tick tock!
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barney
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Re: Life After Brexit
Excellent that the Eu have finally seen sense and committed to not block products from entering Northern Ireland from the U.K.
The start of reality kicking in?
The start of reality kicking in?
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Ray Scully
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Re: Life After Brexit
Barney can't see the French or Spanish boats staying at home., A version of the 'cod wars' will provide a wonderful opportunity to continue this topicbarney wrote: 06 Dec 2020, 12:44So, the Eu have to make their mind up if they want continued tariff free access to the U.K. market and whether to mothball their fishing fleets.
Tick tock!
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barney
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And I fully expect remainers to support them when doing it Ray.Ray Scully wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 15:19Barney can't see the French or Spanish boats staying at home., A version of the 'cod wars' will provide a wonderful opportunity to continue this topicbarney wrote: 06 Dec 2020, 12:44So, the Eu have to make their mind up if they want continued tariff free access to the U.K. market and whether to mothball their fishing fleets.
Tick tock!
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Ray Scully
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Rather a rash generalisation don't you think Barneybarney wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 16:42And I fully expect remainers to support them when doing it Ray.Ray Scully wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 15:19Barney can't see the French or Spanish boats staying at home., A version of the 'cod wars' will provide a wonderful opportunity to continue this topicbarney wrote: 06 Dec 2020, 12:44So, the Eu have to make their mind up if they want continued tariff free access to the U.K. market and whether to mothball their fishing fleets.
Tick tock!
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oldbluefox
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The impression I get from our Remainer friend is in order to avoid upsetting the French/Spanish fishermen we should just roll over and let them take whatever they want. We've been doing that for the past 40 years or more which has decimated our fishing fleets in places like Cornwall, Hull and Grimsby. Do we really think we should be putting the interests of French and Spanish fishermen above those of our own? Just asking.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Life After Brexit
Does the EU demand fishing rights and adherence to their rules from every country they do a trade deal with? Just asking........
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But in fairness I doubt that many EU fishing boats go to Canada - just sayingMervyn and Trish wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 18:09Does the EU demand fishing rights and adherence to their rules from every country they do a trade deal with? Just asking........
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barney
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I can actually see it from the Eu point of view.
Can they really afford to treat the U.K. as an independent country, full well in the knowledge that when the U.K. is successful outside, it may inflame the next nation to leave.
They are clearly saying that they can live without a trade deal with the U.K. and expect us to eventually capitulate.
Like most, I’d prefer a deal, but if it can’t be done, we’ll be fine, as will they.
Can they really afford to treat the U.K. as an independent country, full well in the knowledge that when the U.K. is successful outside, it may inflame the next nation to leave.
They are clearly saying that they can live without a trade deal with the U.K. and expect us to eventually capitulate.
Like most, I’d prefer a deal, but if it can’t be done, we’ll be fine, as will they.
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Ray Scully
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Oh if it was only that simpleoldbluefox wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 17:35The impression I get from our Remainer friend is in order to avoid upsetting the French/Spanish fishermen we should just roll over and let them take whatever they want. We've been doing that for the past 40 years or more which has decimated our fishing fleets in places like Cornwall, Hull and Grimsby. Do we really think we should be putting the interests of French and Spanish fishermen above those of our own? Just asking.
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barney
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It really is that simple.
You either support your own country on these negotiations or you don’t.
Many have been ringing LBC saying that they hope it’s a disaster for the U.K. so they can be proved right.
They (like a few on this forum) are still arguing the referendum in 2016.
It’s done.
We’ve left.
All that remains .........
When any remainers on tv interviews are asked whether they would concede the integrity of our national borders, continued future governance of U.K. legislation and continued adherence to Eu dictates, they cannot answer except for the continued denial of the actual situation.
You either support your own country on these negotiations or you don’t.
Many have been ringing LBC saying that they hope it’s a disaster for the U.K. so they can be proved right.
They (like a few on this forum) are still arguing the referendum in 2016.
It’s done.
We’ve left.
All that remains .........
When any remainers on tv interviews are asked whether they would concede the integrity of our national borders, continued future governance of U.K. legislation and continued adherence to Eu dictates, they cannot answer except for the continued denial of the actual situation.
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towny44
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Re: Life After Brexit
There have been those on here that have repeatedly suggested that all EU countries can continue to exercise their sovereignty within the EU rules and regulations. But they have never answered the critical question, if so why has no one done it? If any have the EU and the country concerned have been very quiet about it.barney wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 21:45It really is that simple.
You either support your own country on these negotiations or you don’t.
Many have been ringing LBC saying that they hope it’s a disaster for the U.K. so they can be proved right.
They (like a few on this forum) are still arguing the referendum in 2016.
It’s done.
We’ve left.
All that remains .........
When any reemainers on tv interviews are asked whether they would concede the integrity of our national borders, continued future governance of U.K. legislation and continued adherence to Eu dictates, they cannot answer except for the continued denial of the actual situation.
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Onelife
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Re: Life After Brexit
“As yet the price paid for the Hambach site is undisclosed”
Is this the French idea of a level playing field?
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Re: Life After Brexit
We all know that Ray so bearing in mind your reference to cod wars what exactly do you think the answer to this conundrum is because that is the impression I am getting from you?Ray Scully wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 20:57Oh if it was only that simpleoldbluefox wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 17:35The impression I get from our Remainer friend is in order to avoid upsetting the French/Spanish fishermen we should just roll over and let them take whatever they want. We've been doing that for the past 40 years or more which has decimated our fishing fleets in places like Cornwall, Hull and Grimsby. Do we really think we should be putting the interests of French and Spanish fishermen above those of our own? Just asking.
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Gill W
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Nobody on this forum is still arguing the result of the referendum. You are imagining that.barney wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 21:45
They (like a few on this forum) are still arguing the referendum in 2016.
It’s done.
We’ve left.
We’ve left.
You should all be happy about this, but you are still moaning like it was 2016
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Re: Life After Brexit
.... else firing another blank
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Ray Scully
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OBF we must make sure our Navy is on standby, properly resourced and with a clear strategy.oldbluefox wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 09:13We all know that Ray so bearing in mind your reference to cod wars what exactly do you think the answer to this conundrum is because that is the impression I am getting from you?Ray Scully wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 20:57Oh if it was only that simpleoldbluefox wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 17:35The impression I get from our Remainer friend is in order to avoid upsetting the French/Spanish fishermen we should just roll over and let them take whatever they want. We've been doing that for the past 40 years or more which has decimated our fishing fleets in places like Cornwall, Hull and Grimsby. Do we really think we should be putting the interests of French and Spanish fishermen above those of our own? Just asking.
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oldbluefox
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So it is simple after all by your reckoning and we should put national interests above those of the French and Spanish. I concur with that 
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towny44
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Re: Life After Brexit
I imagine that the leave group on this forum would be laid back and silent if it wasn't for the continual poking and prodding from the discontented remain element.Gill W wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 09:27Nobody on this forum is still arguing the result of the referendum. You are imagining that.barney wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 21:45
They (like a few on this forum) are still arguing the referendum in 2016.
It’s done.
We’ve left.
We’ve left.
You should all be happy about this, but you are still moaning like it was 2016
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Ray Scully
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We are where we are OBF.oldbluefox wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 13:03So it is simple after all by your reckoning and we should put national interests above those of the French and Spanish. I concur with that![]()
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barney
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In the event of no agreement, does anyone really think that Eu fishermen would trespass into U.K. territorial waters?Ray Scully wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 11:16OBF we must make sure our Navy is on standby, properly resourced and with a clear strategy.oldbluefox wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 09:13We all know that Ray so bearing in mind your reference to cod wars what exactly do you think the answer to this conundrum is because that is the impression I am getting from you?
That would be breaking international law and the Eu would never allow that, would they?
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