Life After Brexit

[towny44]

WOW !

The EU are not going to be happy with this statement from a government official

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/ ... als.778874

All for one
One for all
And every man for himself

But he did talk about 3rd country national whose work permit had expired, presumably EU nationals will have the same rights as Maltese nationals, and would not require a work permit?

[barney]

There are literally thousands and thousands of Eastern European workers in Malta now John, mainly in the hotel industry.
Given that 15% of Malta’s GDP is tourism and another 15% is online gambling, I fear that they will take a bigger hit than many other countries.

Without the tourists and sporting events, they are very worried.
I think that when push comes to shove, they will try to ship out EU nationals as well as they don’t have a robust social system.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I see Michele Barnier has the virus. While he is not my favourite person I wish him a full and speedy recovery.

Clearly the crisis will impact the post Brexit negotiation period. I hope sense prevails and deadlines are adjusted to reflect the situation.

I don't think Brexit will be Bojo's legacy now. I think his record as a PM will hinge on his handling of CV19. For me I'm not seeing the clown anymore but someone who is handling himself with dignity and authority.

[Finker]

Yes he actually looks serious and humble which is how it should be when you are serving the public.

I feel for him though as this is not what he envisioned.

[oldbluefox]

As Johnson ran his entire election campaign on the basis of there being an oven ready deal, I think there’ll be an awful lot of people out there who will bemused if there is no deal in place when the transition period ends in six months time.

Did he? Since you say he ran his entire campaign on this basis I presume it must have been in the manifesto. Can you tell me where you found it?
My understanding is he ran the campaign on getting us out of the EU with or without a deal so this is news to me.

[Manoverboard]

Brexit seems to be poised to make a come back ... so away you go

[towny44]

I think I will await the BBC mini series that must be due out sometime in the next 2 years, or perhaps I should wait for the Channel 5 version, which might be more to my taste as I suspect Viacom is a bit more right wing.

[Mervyn and Trish]

There's only one issue with channel 5. Their production is shoddy. We've started watching some of their documentaries after a charity I'm involved with was briefly involved in one of their programmes. And the fact checking and continuity is abysmal. Even on topics on which I'm no expert I'm spotting glaring errors. Which makes me wonder how many there are I don't spot. For example when the voiceover pronounces the name of someone featured in two different ways you know they can't both be right. Or a place name changes. Such as Claverton/Calverton.

[barney]

Hooray

At last!

All that is now left to agree a trade deal or not as the case may be.

One of our Danish suppliers has asked if we will take next Spring collection in late December in case of no agreement and tariffs.
We’ve agreed as long as they defer payment.

Many EU countries are very worried about losing the lucrative and very profitable U.K. market.

Now we are past the point of no return, minds will be focused.
Both parties need to move a bit on current stance.

My SIL who was seconded onto working at the Brexit department (now closed) told me their biggest worry was the ‘level playing field’

An example is, if there is no agreement and tariffs are placed on vehicles, the U.K. government intended to compensate U.K. manufacturers by rebating the Eu tariff by using tariffs the incoming tariff from the Eu exporters.
Unfair state subsidy ?

[towny44]

Hooray


An example is, if there is no agreement and tariffs are placed on vehicles, the U.K. government intended to compensate U.K. manufacturers by rebating the Eu tariff by using tariffs the incoming tariff from the Eu exporters.
Unfair state subsidy ?

It might be totally unfair and unlikely, but I do rather like the idea of making the EU car industry pay compensation to the UK car industry because the idiots in Brussels would not agree a deal.

[barney]

As Johnson ran his entire election campaign on the basis of there being an oven ready deal, I think there’ll be an awful lot of people out there who will bemused if there is no deal in place when the transition period ends in six months time.

Did he? Since you say he ran his entire campaign on this basis I presume it must have been in the manifesto. Can you tell me where you found it?
My understanding is he ran the campaign on getting us out of the EU with or without a deal so this is news to me.

The oven ready was talking about the Withdrawal Agreement not a trade deal.
You are correct as usual Foxy

I think it’s increasingly looking like an agreement will not be reached unless both sides move a bit.
National sovereignty dictates that the U.K. cannot sign a no regression pact as it would tie the hands of any future government for ever.
We can move on fishing, for example agreeing a three or five year deal.
ECJ is the toughest one. I cannot see movement on that.
We could never allow a foreign court to over rule our own.

[Whynd1]

Just as an aside our son applied for his passport to be renewed as his only had a few weeks left on it. When it came he had one of the new UK blue ones, he was well chuffed.

[screwy]

I’ve missed Brexit...will we ever see the big hat Again,or Eu flags being waved,or Jack.?

[screwy]

Just as an aside our son applied for his passport to be renewed as his only had a few weeks left on it. When it came he had one of the new UK blue ones, he was well chuffed.

I was due to renew mine in August as it runs out in January and we were cruising in October, alas that isn’t now happening till the end of May,hopefully.I would have lost 5/6 months off the old one, I won’t bother now till April and get the nice new shiny British blue one.Albeit made in France.!

[Whynd1]

He took a chance as he only had 3 weeks left on it and renewed on line,all done and dusted in a week.

[barney]

Just as an aside our son applied for his passport to be renewed as his only had a few weeks left on it. When it came he had one of the new UK blue ones, he was well chuffed.

I was due to renew mine in August as it runs out in January and we were cruising in October, alas that isn’t now happening till the end of May,hopefully.I would have lost 5/6 months off the old one, I won’t bother now till April and get the nice new shiny British blue one.Albeit made in France.!

They are actually made in Poland screwy.
The French company that won the contract have subcontracted it out.

[Mervyn and Trish]

When the contract was placed there was no choice but to include EU firms in the tender process. Rules is rules. Hopefully when it comes up for renewal we will stipulate it has to be a UK firm that gets the deal.

[barney]

TM could have cited national security and kept the work at De La Rue who made them for years.
They lost the contract purely on price and have since laid people off.
As I said, the company that won the contract have since subbed out to a Polish company employing low paid Ukrainians.
That’s the Globalist EU for you.
Why do you think Ford moved production to Eastern Europe?
Level playing field my ****

[Manoverboard]

Albeit many moons ago I visited the De La Rue factory in Leeds and the security they placed around the Green Shield Stamps that they were producing at that time had to be seen to be believed, meanwhile one could just stroll around the umpteen pallets of uncut foreign currency at leisure ... I do agree that the passports should have been retained in the UK, we must have known we were going to leave later if not sooner so what could they do if we decided so to do ... fine us perhaps ?

[screwy]

I stand corrected,thanks Barney.

[david63]

the Green Shield Stamps that they were producing at that time had to be seen to be believed

Didn't you need about 10,000 for a free box of Keefies chocolates?

[Manoverboard]

the Green Shield Stamps that they were producing at that time had to be seen to be believed

Didn't you need about 10,000 for a free box of Keefies chocolates?

Quite likely .... there were 20+ million at DLR but we couldn't get anywhere near them

[Onelife]

the Green Shield Stamps that they were producing at that time had to be seen to be believed

Didn't you need about 10,000 for a free box of Keefies chocolates?

Someone needs ‘stamp’ theses malicious rumours outs…just saying!

[Mervyn and Trish]

TM could have cited national security and kept the work at De La Rue who made them for years.
They lost the contract purely on price and have since laid people off.
As I said, the company that won the contract have since subbed out to a Polish company employing low paid Ukrainians.
That’s the Globalist EU for you.
Why do you think Ford moved production to Eastern Europe?
Level playing field my ****

Probably so, but then Theresa wouldn't say boo to a goose. If Bojo had been in charge I think the outcome would have been different.

[towny44]

TM could have cited national security and kept the work at De La Rue who made them for years.
They lost the contract purely on price and have since laid people off.
As I said, the company that won the contract have since subbed out to a Polish company employing low paid Ukrainians.
That’s the Globalist EU for you.
Why do you think Ford moved production to Eastern Europe?
Level playing field my ****

Probably so, but then Theresa wouldn't say boo to a goose. If Bojo had been in charge I think the outcome would have been different.

So was it Bojos fault for bottling it in 2017, or Michael Gove's for giving him the excuse not to stand?