Self Mutilation
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Stephen
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Self Mutilation
Why do people put those plastic rings in their ears that gradually stretch a bleedin great hole in your ear lobe. It looks hideous. Are these people trying to start a new white version of the Maasai, or have just got a screw loose 
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oldbluefox
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You're showing your age Stephen but I must admit they turn your stomach, as do these piercings through the eyebrow. It must be hard work shutting your eye with one of those things in it.
Not my idea of beauty but it clearly appeals to some. What next? Multiple neck-stretching rings?
Not my idea of beauty but it clearly appeals to some. What next? Multiple neck-stretching rings?
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Jan Rosser
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A young lady with those holes in the ears was on tv recently showing what happened when one of her ear lobes split - it was nauseating - just don't understand why they do it either - showing my age too I suppose 
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Quizzical Bob
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Self-mutilation is not all it's cut up to be.
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Silver_Shiney
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Thankfully, they do heal up to a certain degree after removal.
I firmly believe that if God wanted us to have holes in our ears, he'd have put them there to start with.
And as for studs, rings etc in lips and nose - surely that's unhygienic, especially if suffering from a cold.
I firmly believe that if God wanted us to have holes in our ears, he'd have put them there to start with.
And as for studs, rings etc in lips and nose - surely that's unhygienic, especially if suffering from a cold.
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cornmillgirl
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What about nose piercings OBF, I may have to remove mine in your company, might put you off your dinneroldbluefox wrote:You're showing your age Stephen but I must admit they turn your stomach, as do these piercings through the eyebrow. It must be hard work shutting your eye with one of those things in it.
Not my idea of beauty but it clearly appeals to some. What next? Multiple neck-stretching rings?
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cornmillgirl
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I dont understand the stretchy ear thing but having several piercings myself, I must be someone with a screw loose. I cannot even blame beingStephen wrote:Why do people put those plastic rings in their ears that gradually stretch a bleedin great hole in your ear lobe. It looks hideous. Are these people trying to start a new white version of the Maasai, or have just got a screw loose
a daft teenager either! I was in my late 30's when I got my nose done having only gone into a jewellers to look at some ear-rings. My belly button
I got done when I was over 40.
Now you are all definitely thinking I have a screw loose
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cornmillgirl
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oldbluefox wrote:Must admit, the thought did cross my mind.
My nose piercing is very subtle with small diamante studs which are colour co-ordinated to what I am wearing.
At least I did not start on tattoos!!!
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Stephen
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I don't think age has anything to do with it. I just cannot understand why someone would want to do that to themselves. Is it an attention seeking thing, or just wanting to be different, I don't know.
If I were an employer I certainly wouldn't take on someone for a customer facing role looking like some freak. And that goes for anyone with a face full of studs too. They would just get the 'you were unsuccessful on this occasion' letter to avoid the age old discrimination argument.
If I were an employer I certainly wouldn't take on someone for a customer facing role looking like some freak. And that goes for anyone with a face full of studs too. They would just get the 'you were unsuccessful on this occasion' letter to avoid the age old discrimination argument.
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cornmillgirl
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I suppose I have always been a little "alternative" and a little rebellious against a very strict upbringing. I do like piercings (not where someone'sStephen wrote:I don't think age has anything to do with it. I just cannot understand why someone would want to do that to themselves. Is it an attention seeking thing, or just wanting to be different, I don't know.
If I were an employer I certainly wouldn't take on someone for a customer facing role looking like some freak. And that goes for anyone with a face full of studs too. They would just get the 'you were unsuccessful on this occasion' letter to avoid the age old discrimination argument.
face is covered in them) and also tasteful tattoo's, although I know most think tattoo's are ugly.
Never had a problem with employers as I worked for myself for most of my working life, but I can understand your point.
I think the weirdest thing ever was on a programme a few weeks ago where this chap who was covered from head to toe in tattoo's had had the white
of his eye tattoo'd a dark colour, think it was black. It looked really peculiar and the risk to losing his sight was very high, but he still went for it.
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oldbluefox
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Whilst I personally do not like these ear stretching things I would rather be helped by somebody with piercings and holes in their ears who was pleasant and had a genuine dedication to their job, than some of the 'couldn't care less squeaky-clean look types' who have a job but think the world owes them a living and have no interest in their customer/client.
They may look 'challenging' but the truth of the matter is it's the person behind the look which is important.
They may look 'challenging' but the truth of the matter is it's the person behind the look which is important.
I was taught to be cautious
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Silver_Shiney
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Not sure I'd even interview them, Stephen. If someone doesn't take pride in his appearance, he's unlikely to take pride in his work.
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Andrea S
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If there was pain involved I would run a mile so it always amazes me how people have these things done in the name of beauty.
I must admit too many piercing's and tattoos are not to my liking.
In jewellery studs are ok but with rings I imagine them getting stuck in all manner of ways. My personal dislike is tattoos on fingers as they never look clean.
Age telling again.
I must admit too many piercing's and tattoos are not to my liking.
In jewellery studs are ok but with rings I imagine them getting stuck in all manner of ways. My personal dislike is tattoos on fingers as they never look clean.
Age telling again.
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Arguably they are taking pride in their appearance - albeit not what others may consider pride.Silver_Shiney wrote:Not sure I'd even interview them, Stephen. If someone doesn't take pride in his appearance, he's unlikely to take pride in his work.
In the Royal Navy where tattoos are a "tradition" you are not allowed to have any tattoo visible when wearing uniform so to get around that many will have tattoos on their eyelids
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cornmillgirl
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Blimey I bet that hurts, actually there was a guy on the programme I watched who had his eyelid tattoo'd whilst drunk and had laser treatmentdavid63 wrote:Arguably they are taking pride in their appearance - albeit not what others may consider pride.Silver_Shiney wrote:Not sure I'd even interview them, Stephen. If someone doesn't take pride in his appearance, he's unlikely to take pride in his work.
In the Royal Navy where tattoos are a "tradition" you are not allowed to have any tattoo visible when wearing uniform so to get around that many will have tattoos on their eyelids
to remove it. He was drunk when he had the tattoo and never felt a thing apparently, the laser treatment he was full conscious and it hurt
like hell apparently.
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Stephen
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oldbluefox wrote:Whilst I personally do not like these ear stretching things I would rather be helped by somebody with piercings and holes in their ears who was pleasant and had a genuine dedication to their job, than some of the 'couldn't care less squeaky-clean look types' who have a job but think the world owes them a living and have no interest in their customer/client.
They may look 'challenging' but the truth of the matter is it's the person behind the look which is important.
I disagree Foxy. To me it's both.
If for example I check into a hotel, my first impression of the hotel is summed up within seconds of me walking through the door and clapping eyes on of the reception area and it's staff. I expect smartly turned out, clean cut professional staff with a polite 'can do' attitude, not some oik looking like a bagatelle board with make up (tattoos) everywhere. And he or she can have an arm full of degrees, it still makes no difference to me.
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Kenmo1
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Cornmillgirl - I've always wondered if people with nose piercings get bits of tissue caught up on the stud when they blow their nose or do you just avoid tissues and stick with a handkerchief. Sorry, daft question I know but its always crossed my mind.cornmillgirl wrote:oldbluefox wrote:Must admit, the thought did cross my mind.Yes thats me who would go into a jewellers to buy some ear-rings and come out with a nose stud!
My nose piercing is very subtle with small diamante studs which are colour co-ordinated to what I am wearing.
At least I did not start on tattoos!!!
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Silver_Shiney
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When I was in the RAF, tattoos had to be covered up. I went to Windsor Castle a couple of years ago and was shocked to see a squaddie, in full dress uniform, at one of the guard posts, who had a clearly-visible tattoo rising up his neck to behind his ear.david63 wrote:Arguably they are taking pride in their appearance - albeit not what others may consider pride.Silver_Shiney wrote:Not sure I'd even interview them, Stephen. If someone doesn't take pride in his appearance, he's unlikely to take pride in his work.
In the Royal Navy where tattoos are a "tradition" you are not allowed to have any tattoo visible when wearing uniform so to get around that many will have tattoos on their eyelids
I know discplinary standards were dropping in the military by the time I retired, but I didn't realise they'd dropped that far.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Definitely not for me. I think a nice pair of earrings look good on Trish, who prefers delicate ones to the Pat Evans Eastenders style, but for me ----- nooooooo.
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Funny - I've got holes in my ears and they're not man-made!Silver_Shiney wrote:Thankfully, they do heal up to a certain degree after removal.
I firmly believe that if God wanted us to have holes in our ears, he'd have put them there to start with.
And as for studs, rings etc in lips and nose - surely that's unhygienic, especially if suffering from a cold.
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
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oldbluefox
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Isn't that what I was saying? Those with piercings can still be smartly turned out, clean cut, professional with a polite 'can do' attitude, whilst those without piercings can look like a bagatelle board and not care less about the customer. The important bit is the professionalism and attitude of the service provider.Stephen wrote:
I disagree Foxy. To me it's both.
If for example I check into a hotel, my first impression of the hotel is summed up within seconds of me walking through the door and clapping eyes on of the reception area and it's staff. I expect smartly turned out, clean cut professional staff with a polite 'can do' attitude, not some oik looking like a bagatelle board with make up (tattoos) everywhere. And he or she can have an arm full of degrees, it still makes no difference to me.
Having misjudged people on their looks in the past I am now very wary of judging a book by its cover.
I was taught to be cautious
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Stephen
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oldbluefox wrote:Isn't that what I was saying? Those with piercings can still be smartly turned out, clean cut, professional with a polite 'can do' attitude, whilst those without piercings can look like a bagatelle board and not care less about the customer. The important bit is the professionalism and attitude of the service provider.Stephen wrote:
I disagree Foxy. To me it's both.
If for example I check into a hotel, my first impression of the hotel is summed up within seconds of me walking through the door and clapping eyes on of the reception area and it's staff. I expect smartly turned out, clean cut professional staff with a polite 'can do' attitude, not some oik looking like a bagatelle board with make up (tattoos) everywhere. And he or she can have an arm full of degrees, it still makes no difference to me.
Having misjudged people on their looks in the past I am now very wary of judging a book by its cover.
I'm sorry Foxy but I fail to see how looking like they've had a row with a staple gun and a tin of paint looks professional.
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oldbluefox
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I mean professional in their attitude and the way they operate. Or are we assuming that all those without adornment will be more efficient and professional in their job than anybody with?
I was taught to be cautious