The General Election
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david63
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How about this for an interesting scenario - neither Conservatives nor Labour are able to form a government so all the "minor" parties get together and form one with the party leaders taking turns in being Prime Minister
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I'll not sleep tonight thinking about it. Imagine Nigel Farage in the middle of it. I am thinking of running a sweepstake on how many times those three women will mention the phrase 'the most vulnerable'. How long will it take them to move onto the next page of their respective manifestos?
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Page 2 will doubtless be all about investing in the infrastructure ... mega millions to borrow n waste, in a nutshell.
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THIS IS A NON PARTISAN JOKE THAT CAN BE ENJOYED BY ALL PARTIES! NOT ONLY THAT-- it'sPOLITICALLY CORRECT!!
(And it doesn't matter which country you're resident in!)
While walking down the street one day a M ember of Parliament is tragically hit by a truck and dies.
His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
'Welcome to heaven,' says St. Peter.
'Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you.'
'No problem, just let me in,' says the man.
'Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.'
'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the MP.
'I'm sorry, but we have our rules.'
And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he went down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he found himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
Everyone is very happy and dressed in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.
They played a friendly game of golf and then dined on lobster, caviar and champagne.
Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly & nice guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it's time to go.
Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and wave whilst the elevator rises....
The elevator rises and the door opens in heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.
'Now it's time to visit heaven.'
So, 24 hours pass with the MP joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.
'Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.'
The MP reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.'
So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down down to hell.
When the doors open he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.
He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.
The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. ' I don't understand,' stammers the MP.
'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? '
The devil looks at him, smiles and says, ' Yesterday we were campaigning..
Today you voted
(And it doesn't matter which country you're resident in!)
While walking down the street one day a M ember of Parliament is tragically hit by a truck and dies.
His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
'Welcome to heaven,' says St. Peter.
'Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you.'
'No problem, just let me in,' says the man.
'Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.'
'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the MP.
'I'm sorry, but we have our rules.'
And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he went down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he found himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
Everyone is very happy and dressed in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.
They played a friendly game of golf and then dined on lobster, caviar and champagne.
Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly & nice guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it's time to go.
Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and wave whilst the elevator rises....
The elevator rises and the door opens in heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.
'Now it's time to visit heaven.'
So, 24 hours pass with the MP joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.
'Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.'
The MP reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.'
So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down down to hell.
When the doors open he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.
He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above.
The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. ' I don't understand,' stammers the MP.
'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? '
The devil looks at him, smiles and says, ' Yesterday we were campaigning..
Today you voted
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Mervyn and Trish
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Oh how true. 
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Onelife
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If you're still undecided give this a whirl.......
http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/
looks like l'll be taking Natalie walkies after all
http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/
looks like l'll be taking Natalie walkies after all
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Thanks, OL - it confirmed my planned vote for Mr Farage
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david63
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Well that was not the result that i was expecting. The problem with that "quiz" is that it doesn't actually address any of the key questions (economy, NHS, etc) nor does it take into account the different parties stance on any subject.
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Me tooSilver_Shiney wrote:Thanks, OL - it confirmed my planned vote for Mr Farage
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I think the problem is that no one party will have a raft of policies on which we are 100% happy, there will inevitably be a degree of compromise (aka the lesser of two evils!) For me, there are a couple of UKIP points on which I have reservations, whereas the other two parties have a lot of policies that I do not agree with.david63 wrote:Well that was not the result that i was expecting. The problem with that "quiz" is that it doesn't actually address any of the key questions (economy, NHS, etc) nor does it take into account the different parties stance on any subject.
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For my money Farage is the only one who tells it as it is, warts and all. If it upsets or offends is immaterial but he is realistic in his thinking. The problem I have with the other parties are the platitudes they offer. Listen carefully to them and everything will be rosy in the garden. However it is what they don't say which is worrying. The country still has problems and they need to be addressed however much we dislike it. None of the others give me confidence and the more they paper over the cracks the more suspicious of their real motives I get.
I still remember what a disaster Labour were after their 13 years in office and the Tories have done little for the outlying counties of the country. As a small example, in a country as small as UK it is deplorable that some areas still cannot get broadband in the 21st century. Farmers are expected to fill in returns online but have no broadband connection!!! Yet we can afford a cross London link and HS2 so the commuters can get into town 20 minutes earlier. It makes you wonder where the priorities lie. Our politicians need a good shake up!!!
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I still remember what a disaster Labour were after their 13 years in office and the Tories have done little for the outlying counties of the country. As a small example, in a country as small as UK it is deplorable that some areas still cannot get broadband in the 21st century. Farmers are expected to fill in returns online but have no broadband connection!!! Yet we can afford a cross London link and HS2 so the commuters can get into town 20 minutes earlier. It makes you wonder where the priorities lie. Our politicians need a good shake up!!!
Rant over!!
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Onelife
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Hey Foxy you should have been a politician
Hi David
I agree....the 'Quiz' should have included such questions as....
Do you want to retain the indigenous culture of our country?
Do you want the right for your children to go to local schools?
Is the NHS swamped with overseas visitors.....(l was going to say immigrants but then l run the risk of being called a bigot or racist)
Do we continue to pump billions of pounds into a union that props up counties that have bankrupted themselves?
Should the residing goverment be sacked if makes more than 36 policy u-turns? YES!!
Regards
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Hi David
I agree....the 'Quiz' should have included such questions as....
Do you want to retain the indigenous culture of our country?
Do you want the right for your children to go to local schools?
Is the NHS swamped with overseas visitors.....(l was going to say immigrants but then l run the risk of being called a bigot or racist)
Do we continue to pump billions of pounds into a union that props up counties that have bankrupted themselves?
Should the residing goverment be sacked if makes more than 36 policy u-turns? YES!!
Regards
Keith
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Hi Keith
With regards to retaining the indigenous nature of our country, I have no problem with Johnny Foreigner coming to live and WORK here, as he's putting money back into the coffers through taxes and contributing to our society - however, there should be no entitlement to benefits (IMHO) until he's done so for a minimum of five years. I do have a problem with immigrants (and people who think I'm a bigot for saying so) who come here purely for our benefits/NHS treatment and, as we cannot go on holiday without travel insurance, do not understand why it is not a requirement that people coming here do not have insurance to cover health issues that arise AFTER arrival. I an beginning to see why the US make us complete the ESTA, so they know when we are coming and going, and where we will be in between. Apparently there is a growing number of Brits who go to India for medical treatment because the service is excellent and cheaper than at home - but they pay for it. I have no problem with foreigners coming here specifically for treatment providing they pay for it first, but for them to come and basically sponge off our system - no way.
With regards to retaining the indigenous nature of our country, I have no problem with Johnny Foreigner coming to live and WORK here, as he's putting money back into the coffers through taxes and contributing to our society - however, there should be no entitlement to benefits (IMHO) until he's done so for a minimum of five years. I do have a problem with immigrants (and people who think I'm a bigot for saying so) who come here purely for our benefits/NHS treatment and, as we cannot go on holiday without travel insurance, do not understand why it is not a requirement that people coming here do not have insurance to cover health issues that arise AFTER arrival. I an beginning to see why the US make us complete the ESTA, so they know when we are coming and going, and where we will be in between. Apparently there is a growing number of Brits who go to India for medical treatment because the service is excellent and cheaper than at home - but they pay for it. I have no problem with foreigners coming here specifically for treatment providing they pay for it first, but for them to come and basically sponge off our system - no way.
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You get my vote Alan. When do you move in
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Onelife
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Hi Mr Shiney...l can see you and Foxy becoming a formidable force at the next general election
Just to clarify.....l also don't have a problem with Johnny foreigner coming into our country but any suggestion that the majority of them have bennifited this country (over this past five years) is imo 'spin' put out by a Goverment who has lost total control of the problem.
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Just to clarify.....l also don't have a problem with Johnny foreigner coming into our country but any suggestion that the majority of them have bennifited this country (over this past five years) is imo 'spin' put out by a Goverment who has lost total control of the problem.
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Just watched the lib dim party political broadcast. It show a young black girl walking along with head phones on listening to whatever. At the end it shows her almost getting knocked over by a car a she steps off the pavement. Why! She's wearing headphones the dopey girl.
Great advert for the lib dims and being aware of your surroundings.....NOT.

Or, you could look at it as clever advert, as it gets you/me talking about it, and them.
Great advert for the lib dims and being aware of your surroundings.....NOT.
Or, you could look at it as clever advert, as it gets you/me talking about it, and them.
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Hi Stephen,
Don't look left, don't look right... keep with the middle or you'll end up under a car
As far as party political broadcasts go I thought it was a step too far and certainly wont appeal to those who have lost loved one's under such circumstances ...perhaps I'm being a little over sensitive?
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Keith
Don't look left, don't look right... keep with the middle or you'll end up under a car
As far as party political broadcasts go I thought it was a step too far and certainly wont appeal to those who have lost loved one's under such circumstances ...perhaps I'm being a little over sensitive?
Regards
Keith
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Having seen someone get knocked off their bike this morning (thankfully, despite flying through the air with the greatest of ease, he was unhurt) I would say the ad was in very poor taste.
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It seems to me - and correct me if I am wrong - but if Labour and SNP form the next government, they might as well rebrand themselves as the Communist party.

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I am appalled.
We got our postal voting papers just before we went off on holiday and three out of the six did not declare their address and one (the Conservative) gave a location 50 miles away. There is no way that I am voting for a "career" politician that has no connection with the constituency. And what have the others to hide about where they live? It should not be an option to withhold your address if you want to stand in an election.
Just to add to all of this there was also the voting paper for the Council elections and none of the three candidates lives in the ward. Again it should be mandatory that if they want to represent a particular ward that they live there.
Rant over!
We got our postal voting papers just before we went off on holiday and three out of the six did not declare their address and one (the Conservative) gave a location 50 miles away. There is no way that I am voting for a "career" politician that has no connection with the constituency. And what have the others to hide about where they live? It should not be an option to withhold your address if you want to stand in an election.
Just to add to all of this there was also the voting paper for the Council elections and none of the three candidates lives in the ward. Again it should be mandatory that if they want to represent a particular ward that they live there.
Rant over!
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david63 wrote:I am appalled.
We got our postal voting papers just before we went off on holiday and three out of the six did not declare their address and one (the Conservative) gave a location 50 miles away. There is no way that I am voting for a "career" politician that has no connection with the constituency. And what have the others to hide about where they live? It should not be an option to withhold your address if you want to stand in an election.
Just to add to all of this there was also the voting paper for the Council elections and none of the three candidates lives in the ward. Again it should be mandatory that if they want to represent a particular ward that they live there.
Rant over!
Absolutely right - it is not possible for someone to adequately represent an area they don't live in.
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Whenever a general election comes round, and if ever I am tempted away from voting conservative I always remember what a work colleague said his Dad had to say about politics, and both were staunch socialists; "under a Labour Govt the distribution of wealth is always fairer, but under a Conservative Govt. everyone is better off".
To me this simple message encompasses the main differences between Labour's desire to tax the wealthy and spend more on the poor, and the Conservatives efforts to grow the economy so that they can afford to pay better benefits.
I am sure that both believe their system is the best, but history does seem support the Conservative ideology.
To me this simple message encompasses the main differences between Labour's desire to tax the wealthy and spend more on the poor, and the Conservatives efforts to grow the economy so that they can afford to pay better benefits.
I am sure that both believe their system is the best, but history does seem support the Conservative ideology.
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I'm sure that Labour do want the best for their country. I'm just not convinced that it's in the best interest of this country...towny44 wrote:Whenever a general election comes round, and if ever I am tempted away from voting conservative I always remember what a work colleague said his Dad had to say about politics, and both were staunch socialists; "under a Labour Govt the distribution of wealth is always fairer, but under a Conservative Govt. everyone is better off".
To me this simple message encompasses the main differences between Labour's desire to tax the wealthy and spend more on the poor, and the Conservatives efforts to grow the economy so that they can afford to pay better benefits.
I am sure that both believe their system is the best, but history does seem support the Conservative ideology.
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Quite right Shiney one, but voting UKIP even in a fairly safe Tory seat could see the 2 Eds, Nicola and Alex strutting up Downing St.Silver_Shiney wrote:I'm sure that Labour do want the best for their country. I'm just not convinced that it's in the best interest of this country...towny44 wrote:Whenever a general election comes round, and if ever I am tempted away from voting conservative I always remember what a work colleague said his Dad had to say about politics, and both were staunch socialists; "under a Labour Govt the distribution of wealth is always fairer, but under a Conservative Govt. everyone is better off".
To me this simple message encompasses the main differences between Labour's desire to tax the wealthy and spend more on the poor, and the Conservatives efforts to grow the economy so that they can afford to pay better benefits.
I am sure that both believe their system is the best, but history does seem to support the Conservative ideology.
John
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