New law

[Silver_Shiney]

I was shocked to read this article in the news this morning.

It says

"..cyclists in cities often fail to stop at red lights. Rather than step up repression of this misdemeanour, the Paris city authorities have decided to make it legal. ... It is also a way of regularising a practice that is so widespread there is no point in trying to prevent it."

Cyclists aside, it has long been my cynical view that the law protects the criminals and castigates the victim. If sufficient numbers of people break the law, then there is no point in having that law, so don't you dare trying to report an offence.

So, shall we legalise other widespread things that some of us take offence at then? Like murder, rape, theft...? It certainly seems to me that, if the instigator is caught, any punishment given is no deterrent.

[Stephen]

In Paris they call it cyclist red light Russian roulette, their new form of culling
Can't see it catching on over hear though, you've got to get them off the pavements first.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Perhaps we should make drink driving, texting at the wheel, chucking your rubbish out of the window, and driving at 50 in a 30 limit legal too? They all seem popular.

[Stephen]

Taken from news bulletin

Most aggravatingly, Parisians are appalling signallers. They turn without advance warning - or to add insult to injury, they start to indicate as they turn. That is like a V-sign to the cyclist. It shows the driver knows about the indicator, but could not care less what it is for.

Not much different to over here then.

[Onelife]

Hi Mr Shiney,

I would like to see jail sentences reduced with the stipulation that every criminal has to undergo a session with the cat o nine tails....repeat offenders will become a thing of the past.



Regards

Keith

[Silver_Shiney]

I heard of a "jack the lad" who swaggered into his session with the birch, and came out swearing he'd never put a foot wrong again.

[Onelife]

The birch sounds a bit harsh Mr Shiney but then again until criminals start feeling the pain that their victims feel l can't see our judicial system ever getting on top of what seems in many areas a merry go round of repeat offending . I'm convinced a good thrashing under supervised conditions would deter many from taking the wrong path....besides at £40,000 for a years stay in prison isn't a good way to spending tax payers money.

Having had three cars stolen, wallet stolen, contents of an allotment shed stolen l would be more than happy to dish out the punishment.

No pain no gain

Regards

Keith

[Silver_Shiney]

Harsh, yes, Keith, but for a long time it was used in this country as a means of corporal punishment (ended in 1962). Those who suffered it said they'd never want to repeat the experience.

Yuman Rites means that, these days, punishments are way too lenient.

[Stephen]

Onelife
Having had three cars stolen, wallet stolen, contents of an allotment shed stolen l would be more than happy to dish out the punishment.

I didn't know you had moved further North

[Onelife]

Onelife
Having had three cars stolen, wallet stolen, contents of an allotment shed stolen l would be more than happy to dish out the punishment.

I didn't know you had moved further North [/quote



If l had moved up North l would have probably been alright. Don't they have to take out extra insurance for everything that isn't nailed down up there?

[Raybosailor]

Harsh, yes, Keith, but for a long time it was used in this country as a means of corporal punishment (ended in 1962). Those who suffered it said they'd never want to repeat the experience.

Yuman Rites means that, these days, punishments are way too lenient.

Human rights ?, anyone that commits a crime against another person is not acting like a human being and in my opinion should have no human rights. What about the human rights of the law abiding citizen to live in peace without fear of attack or theft of their hard earned possessions.

Bring back the birch for serious crimes and the gallows for proven murder, castration for rape or pedophiles.

I have an old hickory pick axe handle which has been used twice already and will be used again if anyone tries to enter my property and our community police officer knows this all too well.

P.S. if you meet me at any time you will find me a gentleman, I just don't have time for thugs and will always stand up against them.

[Silver_Shiney]

My thoughts exactly, sir.

[Raybosailor]

We have a good network of cycle tracks and lanes in Nottingham and one in particular on the ring road which is ignored by a lot of cyclists who insist on riding on the road, yes you do look good in your lycra cycling gear sir and I do admire your fitness being able to ride at 25 mph but this is a 40 mph busy road and there is a long line of traffic behind you.
In rush hour they used to annoy me by squeezing on the inside and sometimes clipping your wing mirror so I would pull up close to the kerb making them stop and go onto the cycle track to get round me. One particular cyclist used to give me some verbal and one day he even banged on the roof of my car so I jumped out and gave chase, he sure made good use of that cycle track pedaling like the clappers to get away from me.
The one mistake in my opinion is the bus lane on the A52 which is 40 mph and allows cyclists to use it, there have been many accidents where buses have pulled out of the bus lane to get round cyclists in the bus lane and there have been a number of cyclists hit by buses in this lane.
We used to have the shortest cycle lane in Europe in the village of Bingham which was about two metres long which was supposed to enable cyclist to leave the kerb and merge with the traffic.

[Silver_Shiney]

We used to have the shortest cycle lane in Europe in the village of Bingham which was about two metres long which was supposed to enable cyclist to leave the kerb and merge with the traffic.

Bingham itself wasn't much longer than 2 metres!!

[Stephen]

We find it a shock if we see a cyclist on the road round our way. We say 'how dare they use the road, what's wrong with the pavement'

The one's that make me smile are those togged up to the teeth with all the protective gear, riding on the pavement.

[Raybosailor]

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We used to have the shortest cycle lane in Europe in the village of Bingham which was about two metres long which was supposed to enable cyclist to leave the kerb and merge with the traffic.

Bingham itself wasn't much longer than 2 metres!!

[Silver_Shiney]

We find it a shock if we see a cyclist on the road round our way. We say 'how dare they use the road, what's wrong with the pavement'

The one's that make me smile are those togged up to the teeth with all the protective gear, riding on the pavement.

how about the ones with all the protective gear - hanging from the handlebars