However Alan, I do not think that it is in the modern British mentality, of our leaders, to solve this problem and I really fear Moby's scenario may not be far from reality.
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Goodness gracious me!! Would you believe it when little old me and "Bristol Al" sing from the same hymn sheet.
However Alan, I do not think that it is in the modern British mentality, of our leaders, to solve this problem and I really fear Moby's scenario may not be far from reality.

However Alan, I do not think that it is in the modern British mentality, of our leaders, to solve this problem and I really fear Moby's scenario may not be far from reality.
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It seems to me that the prestigious English Premiership can "dribble" around the "common man" to get their stars from both Eastern Euro enclaves and so called third countries
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Oh believe me, John, Moby's scenario is coming to this country before much longer.
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You're right gfw
Well I haven't as yet seen any blood flowing down our rivers but who of us is willing to stand up and say the crux of Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech was wrong. He wasn't a racist and neither am I which is why I am happy to stand up and say Multiculturalism has been an unmitigated disaster for this country. For multiculturalism to be successful there must be integration of different cultures, this has and never will happen because allowing different cultures the right to maintain their own identity, culture, language, religion and customs you actually create segregation...well that's what I think and you'll just have to wait and see if I am right.
God save the Queen and our islands culture.
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Well I haven't as yet seen any blood flowing down our rivers but who of us is willing to stand up and say the crux of Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech was wrong. He wasn't a racist and neither am I which is why I am happy to stand up and say Multiculturalism has been an unmitigated disaster for this country. For multiculturalism to be successful there must be integration of different cultures, this has and never will happen because allowing different cultures the right to maintain their own identity, culture, language, religion and customs you actually create segregation...well that's what I think and you'll just have to wait and see if I am right.
God save the Queen and our islands culture.
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Well I wonder if that is how the Normans, the Saxons and the Gauls managed to integrate their cultures into little old England?Onelife wrote:You're right gfw![]()
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Well I haven't as yet seen any blood flowing down our rivers but who of us is willing to stand up and say the crux of Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech was wrong. He wasn't a racist and neither am I which is why I am happy to stand up and say Multiculturalism has been an unmitigated disaster for this country. For multiculturalism to be successful there must be integration of different cultures, this has and never will happen because allowing different cultures the right to maintain their own identity, culture, language, religion and customs you actually create segregation...well that's what I think and you'll just have to wait and see if I am right.
God save the Queen and our islands culture.
Regards
OL
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They didn't.ITWA Travel Writer wrote:Well I wonder if that is how the Normans, the Saxons and the Gauls managed to integrate their cultures into little old England?Onelife wrote:You're right gfw![]()
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Well I haven't as yet seen any blood flowing down our rivers but who of us is willing to stand up and say the crux of Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech was wrong. He wasn't a racist and neither am I which is why I am happy to stand up and say Multiculturalism has been an unmitigated disaster for this country. For multiculturalism to be successful there must be integration of different cultures, this has and never will happen because allowing different cultures the right to maintain their own identity, culture, language, religion and customs you actually create segregation...well that's what I think and you'll just have to wait and see if I am right.
God save the Queen and our islands culture.
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Integration is the fundamental problem with mass immigration into our country leading to mistrust and conflict. The black market economy within white and black society only serves to widen the divisions. OL is correct in what he is saying.Onelife wrote:For multiculturalism to be successful there must be integration of different cultures, this has and never will happen because allowing different cultures the right to maintain their own identity, culture, language, religion and customs you actually create segregation
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What would worry me, if I was a politician, is whether there would be enough black market jobs to satisfy the huge numbers of migrants wanting to come here! 
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Well I wonder if that is how the Normans, the Saxons and the Gauls managed to integrate their cultures into little old England?ITWA Travel Writer wrote:Onelife wrote:You're right gfw![]()
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Well I haven't as yet seen any blood flowing down our rivers but who of us is willing to stand up and say the crux of Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech was wrong. He wasn't a racist and neither am I which is why I am happy to stand up and say Multiculturalism has been an unmitigated disaster for this country. For multiculturalism to be successful there must be integration of different cultures, this has and never will happen because allowing different cultures the right to maintain their own identity, culture, language, religion and customs you actually create segregation...well that's what I think and you'll just have to wait and see if I am right.
God save the Queen and our islands culture.
Regards
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Ok travel writer l hadn't anticipated anyone going back 1,000 years in history but for all intent and purposes they were also illegal migrants who did make our rivers flow with blood.
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But did they integrate, or merely beat the indigenous population into submission?Onelife wrote:Well I wonder if that is how the Normans, the Saxons and the Gauls managed to integrate their cultures into little old England?ITWA Travel Writer wrote:Onelife wrote:You're right gfw![]()
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Well I haven't as yet seen any blood flowing down our rivers but who of us is willing to stand up and say the crux of Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech was wrong. He wasn't a racist and neither am I which is why I am happy to stand up and say Multiculturalism has been an unmitigated disaster for this country. For multiculturalism to be successful there must be integration of different cultures, this has and never will happen because allowing different cultures the right to maintain their own identity, culture, language, religion and customs you actually create segregation...well that's what I think and you'll just have to wait and see if I am right.
God save the Queen and our islands culture.
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Ok travel writer l hadn't anticipated anyone going back 1,000 years in history but for all intent and purposes they were also illegal migrants who did make our rivers flow with blood.
Regards
Keith
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You are right Mr Shiney ......then they throw them into the river

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The North-South divide still exists as a result of the stand-off between the Angles and others in the south and the Danes in the Danelaw to the north. A lot of battles were involved. The Normans just beat everybody into submission.Silver_Shiney wrote:But did they integrate, or merely beat the indigenous population into submission?Onelife wrote:Well I wonder if that is how the Normans, the Saxons and the Gauls managed to integrate their cultures into little old England?ITWA Travel Writer wrote:Onelife wrote:You're right gfw![]()
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Well I haven't as yet seen any blood flowing down our rivers but who of us is willing to stand up and say the crux of Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech was wrong. He wasn't a racist and neither am I which is why I am happy to stand up and say Multiculturalism has been an unmitigated disaster for this country. For multiculturalism to be successful there must be integration of different cultures, this has and never will happen because allowing different cultures the right to maintain their own identity, culture, language, religion and customs you actually create segregation...well that's what I think and you'll just have to wait and see if I am right.
God save the Queen and our islands culture.
Regards
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Ok travel writer l hadn't anticipated anyone going back 1,000 years in history but for all intent and purposes they were also illegal migrants who did make our rivers flow with blood.
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There's also the small problem that we already appear to have admitted quite a few who have left us in no doubt whatsoever that they don't particularly like us. How does one differentiate?oldbluefox wrote:Integration is the fundamental problem with mass immigration into our country leading to mistrust and conflict. The black market economy within white and black society only serves to widen the divisions. OL is correct in what he is saying.Onelife wrote:For multiculturalism to be successful there must be integration of different cultures, this has and never will happen because allowing different cultures the right to maintain their own identity, culture, language, religion and customs you actually create segregation
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And if they don't like us what makes them stay? Benefit, black market economy, conurbations where they can live within their own community devoid of integration, weak government which bends to their every demand or merely the fact that what they have here is better than anything they could have in their own country where they wouldn't have the freedom to behave as they do.
For my money none of those who have gone off to Syria to join ISIL should be allowed back into this country.
For my money none of those who have gone off to Syria to join ISIL should be allowed back into this country.
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Agreed.........
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OBF is correct in what he is sayingoldbluefox wrote:And if they don't like us what makes them stay? Benefit, black market economy, conurbations where they can live within their own community devoid of integration, weak government which bends to their every demand or merely the fact that what they have here is better than anything they could have in their own country where they wouldn't have the freedom to behave as they do.
For my money none of those who have gone off to Syria to join ISIL should be allowed back into this country.