The Demise of the Carrier Bag

[Silver_Shiney]

Then there is one last issue for me - I refuse point blank to pay for a carrier bag which advertises the name of the shop I've been in. IF I pay for a bag I expect it to be blank. If the shop wants me to carry around their advertising, they can pay me.

fair point.. if the shops don't pay for printing the bags up, it'll reduce their overheads too.

[qbman1]

Then there is one last issue for me - I refuse point blank to pay for a carrier bag which advertises the name of the shop I've been in. IF I pay for a bag I expect it to be blank. If the shop wants me to carry around their advertising, they can pay me.

fair point.. if the shops don't pay for printing the bags up, it'll reduce their overheads too.

It may be sensible, but it's not going to happen, is it ?

[Silver_Shiney]

Then there is one last issue for me - I refuse point blank to pay for a carrier bag which advertises the name of the shop I've been in. IF I pay for a bag I expect it to be blank. If the shop wants me to carry around their advertising, they can pay me.

fair point.. if the shops don't pay for printing the bags up, it'll reduce their overheads too.

It may be sensible, but it's not going to happen, is it ?

That's the thing about common sense... it isn't common

[Dark Knight]

Once I run out of supermarket bags I will have to buy some sort of plastic bags to continue to put rubbish in the wheelie bin.

Yes, but you can get recyclable bin liners for that (and I re-use all those unsolicited charity bags that are incessantly pushed through my letterbox!)

I suspect that the charity plastic bags are just as toxic when they end up in the ocean. As for biodegradeable bags, which I assume you meant, I imagine these sell at a premium, and I suspect that environmental concerns are unlikely to overcome most peoples desire to buy the cheapest type when they are just for throwing away.

which part of a carrier bag is toxic then Townny ?

[poole boy]

I refuse to buy a carrier bag that advertises the company I am buying from end of story

[qbman1]

Once I run out of supermarket bags I will have to buy some sort of plastic bags to continue to put rubbish in the wheelie bin.

Yes, but you can get recyclable bin liners for that (and I re-use all those unsolicited charity bags that are incessantly pushed through my letterbox!)

I suspect that the charity plastic bags are just as toxic when they end up in the ocean. As for biodegradeable bags, which I assume you meant, I imagine these sell at a premium, and I suspect that environmental concerns are unlikely to overcome most peoples desire to buy the cheapest type when they are just for throwing away.

which part of a carrier bag is toxic then Townny ?

Probably the bit that chokes a turtle ?!

[qbman1]

I refuse to buy a carrier bag that advertises the company I am buying from end of story

A commendable sentiment but I cannot see any of the major stores issuing unbranded bags anytime soon so you will just have to take your own.

Looks like the legislation is working already !!

[Dark Knight]

a Turtle or any other form of life chocking on a carrier bag does not make the carrier bag toxic.

it's this type of ill informed opinion that gives the tree huggers the leverage they crave
like anything people are happy to blame anyone and anything rather than take one iota of responsibility for their own selfish actions
People cause the problem, not an inanimate object, so the answer is to tax the carrier bag, well done !!, another example of papering over the cracks, rather than actually do something about lazy, selfish people who can't do something as simple as put waste materials in a bloody bin

[The Tinker]

I refuse to buy a carrier bag that advertises the company I am buying from end of story

Oh dear - how ridiculous - you are happy to purchase their goods but refuse to let anyone know where you shop?

Surely if you grace their doors and are happy with the goods they sale, it stands to reason you should be happy to recommend them to other people?

[towny44]

a Turtle or any other form of life chocking on a carrier bag does not make the carrier bag toxic.

it's this type of ill informed opinion that gives the tree huggers the leverage they crave
like anything people are happy to blame anyone and anything rather than take one iota of responsibility for their own selfish actions
People cause the problem, not an inanimate object, so the answer is to tax the carrier bag, well done !!, another example of papering over the cracks, rather than actually do something about lazy, selfish people who can't do something as simple as put waste materials in a bl**dy bin

According to the so called experts it is because we put these bags in the bins that cause the problems. The rubbish then gets taken to a landfill site where the bulldozers spread it all around and the wind blows the plastic bags off the site.
As regards toxicity I have to accept the findings of so called experts who say that the food chain becomes contaminated with carcinogenic toxins from plastic which ends up in the sea.
So by putting our plastic bags in the bin we seem to be causing the problems, but not in Huddersfield where we incinerate our household waste, probably putting lethal dioxins into the atmosphere.
It appears we can't win, so I have decided to opt out and will be starting a petition to bring back free supermarket plastic bags.

[qbman1]

It appears we can't win, so I have decided to opt out and will be starting a petition to bring back free supermarket plastic bags.

Probably the most ridiculous thing I have read for a long time - even makes our ramblings on LOTP sound sensible !!

[Dark Knight]

townyy
the "plastic" in your carrier bag, is the same type of polymer that your drinking water pipes are made from, don't see anyone banning them or crying about how LETHAL and TOXIC they are, do you ????
throwing words like carcinogen and lethal around without understanding the science behind it, just adds to the misinformation, perhaps you should get a bit more information before posting about cancer causing plastics and lethal dioxins???

[Manoverboard]

I refuse to buy a carrier bag that advertises the company I am buying from end of story

Oh dear - how ridiculous - you are happy to purchase their goods but refuse to let anyone know where you shop?

Surely if you grace their doors and are happy with the goods they sale, it stands to reason you should be happy to recommend them to other people?

That surely depends where Poole Boy does his shopping ?

So .... B&Q possibly yes but Ann Summers possibly no ?

[qbman1]

I know Merv always carries a large plain brown paper bag with him - just in case !!

[Dark Knight]

Anne summers don't advertise, their bags are plain black

[qbman1]

Can you send your spare ones to Towny and Boris please

[Dark Knight]

no we re-use them on a regular basis

[The Tinker]

I refuse to buy a carrier bag that advertises the company I am buying from end of story

Oh dear - how ridiculous - you are happy to purchase their goods but refuse to let anyone know where you shop?

Surely if you grace their doors and are happy with the goods they sale, it stands to reason you should be happy to recommend them to other people?

That surely depends where Poole Boy does his shopping ?

So .... B&Q possibly yes but Ann Summers possibly no ?

Haha - no he is being ridiculous - I am sure he happily took their bags when they were free - advertising and all - but now becos he has to pay for the bag he thinks the world owes him a favour - get over it - has poole booy took all the signs off the car he drives and modified it so no-one knows the type it is - does he cut all the labels off his clothes? - I very much doubt it.

[Stephen]

Calm down Tink, you'll blow a gusset

[qbman1]

It is all getting a bit silly. Why not just carry a shopping bag, like we have for generations? Mind you, most of the bags for life you can buy are branded now, so how does that sit with the deniers ?!

[qbman1]

Calm down Tink, you'll blow a gusset

That's a bit below the belt !!

[The Tinker]

Anne summers don't advertise, their bags are plain black

Just wondering - are they still free?

[qbman1]

Now stop stirring them all up - you know they're not !

[Mervyn and Trish]

Fair enough about not paying for logo bags Poole Boy. But just be prepared to take your own bags to the supermarket because you can be certain they won't be switching to plain ones anytime soon.

[qbman1]

Is there an echo around here ?