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Can anyone help to decipher this word, please? It's the name of a parish in Bucks. I thought it says "Hyrardisbury" but Mr Google doesn't recognise it. The document dates from around 1847
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I tried: Wyi-ardisbury

disbury

with vague results...

but these might help:
http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/leisure-and-c ... l-history/

http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BK ... dreds.html

but you do need to allow that they change boundaries round there as often as some people have clean socks!
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Sometimes these spellings are phonetic.

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The names, and possibly the County boundaries as well, would have changed.

Searching the ' Buckinghamshire Hundreds ', with maps, as at 1847 may help ?

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also here:
http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/index.php/bucksparishes

but there's a LOT of them. click on each parish and then on places and it gives a sublist!
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Nearest I can find is Wraysbury, which used to be in Bucks. Not very near, though, I'm afraid.

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anniec wrote:
Nearest I can find is Wraysbury, which used to be in Bucks. Not very near, though, I'm afraid.
You are spot on Annie, Wraysbury was originally called Wyrardesbury in 1422 there was no uniformity of spelling in those days and an H and W were often used in the same manner as is V and W.

In the early years we had been invaded by a few different countries all speaking their own language so as Bob said even the learned would write things down how they sounded in their own dialect, that is why surnames have variations over the years.


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anniec wrote:
Nearest I can find is Wraysbury, which used to be in Bucks. Not very near, though, I'm afraid.
You are spot on Annie, Wraysbury was originally called Wyrardesbury in 1422 there was no uniformity of spelling in those days and an H and W were often used in the same manner as is V and W.

In the early years we had been invaded by a few different countries all speaking their own language so as Bob said even the learned would write things down how they sounded in their own dialect, that is why surnames have variations over the years.
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anniec wrote:
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anniec wrote:
Nearest I can find is Wraysbury, which used to be in Bucks. Not very near, though, I'm afraid.
You are spot on Annie, Wraysbury was originally called Wyrardesbury in 1422 there was no uniformity of spelling in those days and an H and W were often used in the same manner as is V and W.

In the early years we had been invaded by a few different countries all speaking their own language so as Bob said even the learned would write things down how they sounded in their own dialect, that is why surnames have variations over the years.
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Instead of a Parish it could possibly be the name of a ' Home ', as in Workhouse or one run by the Church for the waifs n strays in their catchment area but most are gone and the records with them.
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Very many thanks to all of you. It was, in fact, Wyrardisbury, part of Eton Wick. Our founder was meticulous in transcribing information from certificates so it must have been recorded as Hyrardisbury on the birth and burial certificates that were presented to him. However, being Prussian, he would also write "ss" as "fs" ( the "f" being written in copperplate-type script) which, when the records were entered into the database, were copied as "FS"! I only picked this up when I noticed that someone, who was a sailor, died when his vefsel was lost at sea...

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when I googled Eton Wick and Wraysbury, they are quite a distance apart ( by Victorian standards),
but Wyrardisbury mentions both in its entry.

interesting!
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If the document was a transcription the transcriber might have had difficulty reading the original document hence the H instead of W.
Cheryl and I were volunteer transcribers for the Free BMD website a good source for family history research, we would spend many evenings transferring the data from microfiche to digital format for the site. As anyone who studies genealogy will know some records from old documents and microfiche are sometimes difficult to read so you have to allow for discrepancies.

A good tip for anyone about to embark on a research of their family name is if you see an incorrect spelling of your name don't ignore it, it could be a transcription error and the further you go back the higher level of illiteracy you will find.

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Meg 50 wrote:
when I googled Eton Wick and Wraysbury, they are quite a distance apart ( by Victorian standards),
but Wyrardisbury mentions both in its entry.

interesting!
Quite right Meg but the records were formed by parish not postcode as today, I live in the Diocese of Southwell in Nottinghamshire which is a 40 minute drive away, so Eton and Wyardisbury could have belonged to the same diocese.

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Parishes are usually a square mile or 3 - dioceses are comprised of dozens of Parishes - I live in Southwark Diocese - it spreads N/S from London Bridge to Gatwick and pretty wide too!

Wraysbury and Eton Wick are both in the Diocese of Oxford which spreads from the Cotswolds almost to the London suburbs
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Raybosailor wrote:
If the document was a transcription the transcriber might have had difficulty reading the original document hence the H instead of W.
Cheryl and I were volunteer transcribers for the Free BMD website a good source for family history research, we would spend many evenings transferring the data from microfiche to digital format for the site. As anyone who studies genealogy will know some records from old documents and microfiche are sometimes difficult to read so you have to allow for discrepancies.

A good tip for anyone about to embark on a research of their family name is if you see an incorrect spelling of your name don't ignore it, it could be a transcription error and the further you go back the higher level of illiteracy you will find.
Thanks for that, Ray. I should have thought that, with at least two, if not three, documents in front of him, all with the parish name on them, he'd have notice!

Whilst following Meg's leads earlier, I came across that FreeBMD website and have now bookmarked it as I think I will find many more queries to resolve as I work through our records.
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