"A gentleman never addresses a lady as Ms."

Unread post by **Onelife** » 04 Jul 2016, 15:11

I don't think most women would get upset if you unknowingly adressed them as Mrs, Ms or Miss as l think most women today would correct the person who introduced themselves. As for addressing someone by letter then Ms, Madam or their full name are the options that seem to be used most frequently.

Unread post by **Stephen** » 04 Jul 2016, 15:13

If the full name is known the I address the person by their first name.

Unread post by **qbman1** » 04 Jul 2016, 15:17

How very modern of you. Whatever happened to traditional etiquette ?!

Unread post by **Gill W** » 04 Jul 2016, 15:31

Meg 50 wrote:
I was bawled out once for calling my 'crocodile' of 4 years old girls as ladies.... I was told it was sexist to call females 'ladies' - it should only be 'women'....

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I reckon being called a lady is a compliment - 'woman' isn't.

referring to 'that lady' sounds so much more pleasant/polite than 'that woman'

I agree - 'that woman' always sounds a bit harsh

Unread post by **Stephen** » 04 Jul 2016, 15:33

qbman1 wrote:
How very modern of you. Whatever happened to traditional etiquette ?!

Which is

Unread post by **qbman1** » 04 Jul 2016, 15:34

Gill W wrote:
Meg 50 wrote:
I was bawled out once for calling my 'crocodile' of 4 years old girls as ladies.... I was told it was sexist to call females 'ladies' - it should only be 'women'....

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I reckon being called a lady is a compliment - 'woman' isn't.

referring to 'that lady' sounds so much more pleasant/polite than 'that woman'
I agree - 'that woman' always sounds a bit harsh

Strange, isn't it - "lady" always sounds so complimentary but "woman" feels like it should always have "that bloody" in front of it !!

Unread post by **qbman1** » 04 Jul 2016, 15:37

Stephen wrote:
qbman1 wrote:
How very modern of you. Whatever happened to traditional etiquette ?!

Which is

I'm surprised you have to ask!

If you're writing to a person you don't know from Adam, it is customary to put "Dear Mr", "Dear Mrs" or whatever. Jolly bad form to put "Dear [insert Christian name here] in a business letter

Unread post by **Stephen** » 04 Jul 2016, 15:40

How do you know she is a Mrs. You are inferring that she is a married woman.

Unread post by **Meg 50** » 04 Jul 2016, 18:24

qbman1 wrote:
Gill W wrote:
Meg 50 wrote:
I was bawled out once for calling my 'crocodile' of 4 years old girls as ladies.... I was told it was sexist to call females 'ladies' - it should only be 'women'....

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I reckon being called a lady is a compliment - 'woman' isn't.

referring to 'that lady' sounds so much more pleasant/polite than 'that woman'
I agree - 'that woman' always sounds a bit harsh
Strange, isn't it - "lady" always sounds so complimentary but "woman" feels like it should always have "that bl**dy" in front of it !!

precisely!

Unread post by **anniec** » 04 Jul 2016, 19:16

Meg 50 wrote:
qbman1 wrote:
Gill W wrote:
Meg 50 wrote:
I was bawled out once for calling my 'crocodile' of 4 years old girls as ladies.... I was told it was sexist to call females 'ladies' - it should only be 'women'....

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I reckon being called a lady is a compliment - 'woman' isn't.

referring to 'that lady' sounds so much more pleasant/polite than 'that woman'
I agree - 'that woman' always sounds a bit harsh
Strange, isn't it - "lady" always sounds so complimentary but "woman" feels like it should always have "that bl**dy" in front of it !!
precisely!

Agreed. Mr(!) Dimbleby says "the woman in glasses" or similar to identify questioners on Question Time - cringeworthy.

Unread post by **Raybosailor** » 04 Jul 2016, 19:53

My Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen now there's one for you, when a Lord and Lady are introduced they have that title as in Lord and Lady Astor but the MC at a formal reception will usually address the attendees as My Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen so Lady Astor is relegated to a general lady.

What is wrong with addressing a group of females as ladies ?, when my grandaughter of 13 comes to ours with her friends I always address them as ladies and they love it.

The one thing I hate (and my wife even more) is when a waiter says what can I get you Guy's, in the Oxford Dictionary (other dictionaries are available) the term Guy is informal for man or boy so why would you want to address a woman/girl/lady as a guy.

If Jennie Smith wrote to me and did not reveal her status I would reply to her as J. Smith.

Unread post by **suespud** » 04 Jul 2016, 20:13

My hubby refers to me as his lady...and our daughter and our daughter in laws as ladies.
I dont wear a wedding ring..swollen arthritic finger joints prevent that (but married nearly 41 years)
If I sign a letter/email with my full name , I dont have any problem at all in a reply that starts with Dear Susan.
I would much rather be called by my name than Mrs whatever.

Unread post by **Stephen** » 04 Jul 2016, 21:21

suespud wrote:
My hubby refers to me as his lady...and our daughter and our daughter in laws as ladies.
I dont wear a wedding ring..swollen arthritic finger joints prevent that (but married nearly 41 years)
If I sign a letter/email with my full name , I dont have any problem at all in a reply that starts with Dear Susan.
I would much rather be called by my name than Mrs whatever.

Dear Sort

Unread post by **Silver_Shiney** » 05 Jul 2016, 07:25

If I don't know her marital status, it's "Miss"

If she's using her maiden name, regardless if I marital status, it's Miss

If she's using her husband's name, regardless of marital status, it's Mrs

"Lady" and "gentleman" are signs of respect, unless the person concerned shows they do not deserve it

Unread post by **Stephen** » 05 Jul 2016, 07:33

I don't think my life is going to end because I get someone's title wrong. More important things going on in the world.

Unread post by **Boris+** » 05 Jul 2016, 08:33

Silver_Shiney wrote:
If I don't know her marital status, it's "Miss"

If she's using her maiden name, regardless if I marital status, it's Miss

If she's using her husband's name, regardless of marital status, it's Mrs

"Lady" and "gentleman" are signs of respect, unless the person concerned shows they do not deserve it

A lovely comment, Alan - respect is a wonderful thing, but it has to be earned. If I don't know somebody, or someone hasn't behaved well enough for long enough to command my respect, then it doesn't exist. QED, I won't call that person a 'lady' or a 'gentleman'. However, when I refer to somebody as either a woman or as a man, I am merely stating a fact of gender.

Unread post by **Silver_Shiney** » 05 Jul 2016, 09:03

A sign in the assembly hall of one of our local schools - "Respect - learn it - earn it"

I agree with you, Em, regarding the statement of gender. I often say, for example, "that chap/bloke/man over there" but if he is within earshot, I tend to say, something along the lines of "we'll do whatever after this gentleman".

When I was working in the FX bureau at the travel agent, I would call every man "sir", irrespective of age. It used to bug the life out of me the young lad who worked with me would call older male customers "mate".

I'm old-school. Very old-school. I do not do "politically correct", it is not an acceptable substitute for good manners.

Unread post by **towny44** » 05 Jul 2016, 09:15

I suppose this thread could be considered an antidote to the current political upheaval, but it fails to raise much more than mild interest in me. As long as the person addressing you is polite and friendly I seldom absorb anything other than the request he/she is making.

Unread post by **Dancing Queen** » 05 Jul 2016, 09:26

It really doesn’t bother me how anyone addresses me, life is far too short to worry about being called a Miss, Ms, Mrs, Madam, Ma'am, lady, woman or female.

I find 'oy you' perfectly acceptable but then I've never been one to try and 'lord' it over anyone

Were you aware though that we could all be Lords or Ladies as it is possible to buy ‘a title’ in Scotland for a very minimal cost

Ha Ha that will have got a few of you thinking of what to buy your OH for Christmas .. will there be a deluge of Lady ABC’s on the forum in January 2017

Unread post by **suespud** » 05 Jul 2016, 10:24

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vv5CsP1pAg&autoplay=1

Too many people up their own backsides.

Unread post by **qbman1** » 05 Jul 2016, 10:50

towny44 wrote:
I suppose this thread could be considered an antidote to the current political upheaval, but it fails to raise much more than mild interest in me. As long as the person addressing you is polite and friendly I seldom absorb anything other than the request he/she is making.

Mix and match, FK ! We can't talk sport and politics all the time. Just a light-hearted topic for a change

Unread post by **qbman1** » 05 Jul 2016, 10:52

Silver_Shiney wrote:
A sign in the assembly hall of one of our local schools - "Respect - learn it - earn it"

I agree with you, Em, regarding the statement of gender. I often say, for example, "that chap/bloke/man over there" but if he is within earshot, I tend to say, something along the lines of "we'll do whatever after this gentleman".

When I was working in the FX bureau at the travel agent, I would call every man "sir", irrespective of age. It used to bug the life out of me the young lad who worked with me would call older male customers "mate".

I'm old-school. Very old-school. I do not do "politically correct", it is not an acceptable substitute for good manners.

I do occasionally flip if I am having a heated discussion with someone who continually calls me "mate". I bite my tongue for as long as possible before saying "I am not your mate" !

Unread post by **Meg 50** » 05 Jul 2016, 11:52

qbman1 wrote:
I do occasionally flip if I am having a heated discussion with someone who continually calls me "mate". I bite my tongue for as long as possible before saying "I am not your mate" !

"ok, ok, Ducks"

Unread post by **qbman1** » 05 Jul 2016, 12:04

That's alright, Sweetie !

Unread post by **GillD46** » 05 Jul 2016, 14:45

The one thing I REALLY, REALLY HATE is being addressed as "love". I will always cringe and have been known to reply that I am NOT that person's "love"

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