Current Affairs

[Jack Staff]

Unless you have children and grandchildren ...............

We DO have children and they will be well off after our days, we have made sure of that.

Not sure your particular children were the point.

[Golden Princess]

Well many many children are not lucky as yours. And they are the future of this Country.

[wolfie]

Unless you have children and grandchildren ...............

We DO have children and they will be well off after our days, we have made sure of that.

Not sure your particular children were the point.

Seems that post 174 suggested that.

[wolfie]

Well many many children are not lucky as yours. And they are the future of this Country.

Well, that's good forward planning on our part. Something we should all do/consider.

[Golden Princess]

We have. But many are not so lucky. What about them? They dont matter? They are the future of this Country.

Post 174: Unless you (anyone, everyone) have children and grandchildren ....... or nieces or nephews or friends .......

[Jack Staff]

Unless you have children and grandchildren ...............

We DO have children and they will be well off after our days, we have made sure of that.

Not sure your particular children were the point.

Seems that post 174 suggested that.

Post #174 suggests to me the future of our country.
If you don't care about that, no wonder this country is heading to the s%!7storm it is.

[barney]

Only it's not Jack.

Even the dreaded IMF have admitted that things are generally looking ok.

The doom merchants did their absolute best to forecast Armageddon and many like yourself are still persisting.

We will have another recession. I'm sure of that.
But it won't be because of leaving the EU. It will be because of the capitalist system by which the world operates.

Try to have a tiny bit of faith in the future. It's quite a nice feeling

[Silver_Shiney]

The recession that is coming is long overdue and will make 1929 look like a minor blip. It'll have nothing whatsoever to do with who is, or isn't, in the EU.

[Jack Staff]

Only it's not Jack.

Even the dreaded IMF have admitted that things are generally looking ok.

The doom merchants did their absolute best to forecast Armageddon and many like yourself are still persisting.

The forecasts were made before 23rd of June (obviously), on the assumption we would trigger article 50 on the 24th, as Cameron had stated he would.
As article 50 has not happened yet, we are in a lull before the storm, phony war, whatever you want to call our current situation.
I will happily join you in a tirade of abuse directed at our previous PM, but that would not actually help anyone.

We will have another recession. I'm sure of that.
But it won't be because of leaving the EU. It will be because of the capitalist system by which the world operates.

There's always another recession on the horizon! When in troubled times its usually good to have your friends around you and share the dwindling resources, rather than going off on your own.

Try to have a tiny bit of faith in the future. It's quite a nice feeling

Actually as time goes by I am increasingly optimistic. While I am still upset about the £350m per week the health service won't be getting, I am glad the PM has decided the point system does not work. Also, every day seems there is encouraging news from the other political leaders. Just a shame they are all currently so ineffectual.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Well I guess senior Conservatives will be celebrating tonight as their period in power looks certain to last until at least 2025 with today's news

[Golden Princess]

Unless we start tactical voting.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Jezzer is making Labour unelectable. Moderate electors, the ones any party has to appeal to if they are to win, will never vote for him. So what government would tactical voting achieve?

[Silver_Shiney]

I can't remember if it was in today's Times or Daily Wail, there was an essay from some Labour bod saying that the party must split into moderates and (my words) die-hard commies in order to survive. If that happens, the left-wing vote will be further diluted leaving, IMHO, the Conservative party unassailable.

[kaymar]

Go Jeremy, you're the man !

We just need The Don to win as well and the world will be in good hands

[oldbluefox]

I cringe whenever I see the tieless, but oh so trendy Corbyn showing off his turkey neck, accompanied by McCluskey and Abbott and surrounded by a raggle taggle bunch of weirdos, commies and trots cheering and applauding their master.
He and McDonnell do speak very sincerely but, and a big but, it's what they don't say which is the biggest concern. I was interested to read "Corbyn was educated at Castle House Preparatory School, an independent school near Newport, Shropshire, before attending Adams' Grammar School as a day student". His 'friend' Diane Abbott (who, herself went to grammar school!!) sent her own son to private school whilst sitting in the Commons denouncing the system for others.
How does anyone trust these people?

[Silver_Shiney]

You can be sincere, but you can be sincerely wrong... just saying...

[kaymar]

I cringe whenever I see the tieless, but oh so trendy Corbyn showing off his turkey neck, accompanied by McCluskey and Abbott and surrounded by a raggle taggle bunch of weirdos, commies and trots cheering and applauding their master.
He and McDonnell do speak very sincerely but, and a big but, it's what they don't say which is the biggest concern. I was interested to read "Corbyn was educated at Castle House Preparatory School, an independent school near Newport, Shropshire, before attending Adams' Grammar School as a day student". His 'friend' Diane Abbott (who, herself went to grammar school!!) sent her own son to private school whilst sitting in the Commons denouncing the system for others.
How does anyone trust these people?

One of the first rules of parenting, obf - "Don't do as I do, do as I say"

[oldbluefox]

One of the first rules of parenting, obf - "Don't do as I do, do as I say"

Seems it applies to politicians as well!!

[Raybosailor]

Labour used to be the party for hard working class men and women but now it seems to be full of tree huggers, hippies and animal rights activists.

Please don't let this lot get into power.

[Frank Manning]

I can't remember if it was in today's Times or Daily Wail, there was an essay from some Labour bod saying that the party must split into moderates and (my words) die-hard commies in order to survive. If that happens, the left-wing vote will be further diluted leaving, IMHO, the Conservative party unassailable.

I for one do not want an unassailable Tory Party. However, I do not want the main opposition to be a Trotsky/Marxist shower of nasties. I do not want Trump to win in the USA. Hey I do not have a say in any of this, middle of the road moderates count for nothing until there is an general election in which they can vote. Once they have voted, the politicians start doing what the extremists want anyway, on the pretext that it is the will of the electorate. Cynical? Me?

[Silver_Shiney]

No Frank, you're just putting voice to the fears of decent people and the realities of the situation

[towny44]

Since we all seem to agree that politicians trying to get into office always sound sincere, and mainly say that once in power they will do the sort of things that their voters really want. Then once in power all politicians seem to backslide on their promises and end up on the original path they promised to change.

So maybe its not the politicians fault. Who is it that is overseeing the system whichever party is in power,the senior civil servants, and since they have the power and we know that power corrupts, then why are we always surprised.

[oldbluefox]

I for one do not want an unassailable Tory Party. However, I do not want the main opposition to be a Trotsky/Marxist shower of nasties. I do not want Trump to win in the USA. Hey I do not have a say in any of this, middle of the road moderates count for nothing until there is an general election in which they can vote. Once they have voted, the politicians start doing what the extremists want anyway, on the pretext that it is the will of the electorate. Cynical? Me?

The ONLY party who are truly honest about their motives is the Monster Raving Looney Party. Vote for a proper lunatic.................. Sadly, today that is too close to the truth to be funny. I get totally exasperated with politicians who say one thing and then do something totally different once in power (and usually to suit their own aims). At least the Tories tend to be open and up front about what they want to do but I find the Labour Party unashamedly hypocritical in their promises.
As for the will of the electorate, what a joke!!!

[Frank Manning]

Absolutely right about Diane Abbott, the arch hypocrite OBF. I put her alongside Vanessa Felz, and Katy Hopkins.

[oldbluefox]

Absolutely right about Diane Abbott, the arch hypocrite OBF. I put her alongside Vanessa Felz, and Katy Hopkins.

Add Harriet Harman to my list of hypocrites. She's another one who thinks the comprehensive system is fine for the general populace and opposes selection but sent her own son to a selective grammar school. Hypocritical in the extreme. At least the Tories are open and up front whatever their failings.