Current Affairs

[david63]

Are we all prepared for the next referendum?

Apparently there are several MP's (Lib Dems in particular) who will not approve a vote on Article 50 unless there is an agreement that we have another referendum to approve the deal.

Which bit of Brexit do they not understand?

All of this runs the risk of backfiring and many of the electorate will make it known when the time comes.

[Mervyn and Trish]

They learn nothing

[Jack Staff]

Are we all prepared for the next referendum?

The multi-millionaire backers of the Leave campaign are pumping in loads right now to try and grasp their dream of Britain as an off-shore tax haven, where only the rich benefit.

Apparently there are several MP's (Lib Dems in particular) who will not approve a vote on Article 50 unless there is an agreement that we have another referendum to approve the deal.

You think that the government case on Article 50 is so thin that 8 LibDem MPs can stop it?

Which bit of Brexit do they not understand?

We get the leave part. It's the destination bit we don't get. As May, Johnson, Fox, Davis can't come up with a consistent answer, seems like a fair question.

All of this runs the risk of backfiring and many of the electorate will make it known when the time comes.

The loss of law and order. Another Brexit bonus.

[Silver_Shiney]

That's what we like about you, Jack - ever the optimist!

[towny44]

The multi-millionaire backers of the Leave campaign are pumping in loads right now to try and grasp their dream of Britain as an off-shore tax haven, where only the rich benefit.

Where did you get this from Jack, did you not hear Theresa state that she would be coming after any firm or individual who was trying to avoid paying their fair share of taxes?

[Jack Staff]

Where did you get this from Jack, did you not hear Theresa state that she would be coming after any firm or individual who was trying to avoid paying their fair share of taxes?

And just who is going to decide what a "fair share" is in our brave new Brexit Britain, considering who bought it?

[towny44]

Where did you get this from Jack, did you not hear Theresa state that she would be coming after any firm or individual who was trying to avoid paying their fair share of taxes?

And just who is going to decide what a "fair share" is in our brave new Brexit Britain, considering who bought it?

Again I have no idea what you mean, I can only assume you must be getting your information from Jeremey's website or a Militant Tendency leaflet.

[oldbluefox]

Apparently there are several MP's (Lib Dems in particular) who will not approve a vote on Article 50 unless there is an agreement that we have another referendum to approve the deal.

You think that the government case on Article 50 is so thin that 8 LibDem MPs can stop it?

According to the reports I have read it also includes several backbench Tory MPs and the SNP. Hopefully their futile attempts to renege on the result of the referendum will be thrown out.

Which bit of Brexit do they not understand?

We get the leave part. It's the destination bit we don't get. As May, Johnson, Fox, Davis can't come up with a consistent answer, seems like a fair question.

We have been over this ground time and time again but we seem to be repeating ourselves ad infinitum. Nobody can predict the exact terms because they are not yet known and will not become known until Article 50 is invoked and formal negotiations begin.

All of this runs the risk of backfiring and many of the electorate will make it known when the time comes.

The loss of law and order.

No, the loss of the democratic will of the people only because some people did not get their own way in the referendum and are now stamping their feet in frustration.

[barney]

You really have got to laugh haven't you?

An irrelevant pipsqueak of a politician , who represents virtually no one, seriously thinks that he has this kind of sway.

The poor old LibDems became a busted flush the day that they got in to bed with Cameron and then found out that they couldn't impose all the policies that they had been advocating for years.
Being in opposition is very easy because you only have to say what you will do, without ever having to do it.

Whatever Farron. Gina Whatsherface or Jack Staff think, the UK will be leaving the EU.
Why the hell people with absolutely no power think that they have a right to try and micromanage the outcome is beyond arrogance.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland will once again become a stand alone, independent country.
We will deal with whom we choose and will not be dictated to by others.

It's called taking back control.

There may be tough and rocky times ahead, but they will be OUR tough and rocky times and our generally useless politicians will no longer be able to hide behind the façade of the EU, blaming them for many of our ills.

To win power, they will need to put the UK first, second and third in every decision made.
I don't vote for an MP for them to become a 'face' on the world scene, I vote for them to do the absolute best for the local area.
The sooner the next generation of decision makers realise this, the better

[Stephen]

You really have got to laugh haven't you?

An irrelevant pipsqueak of a politician , who represents virtually no one, seriously thinks that he has this kind of sway.

The poor old LibDems became a busted flush the day that they got in to bed with Cameron and then found out that they couldn't impose all the policies that they had been advocating for years.
Being in opposition is very easy because you only have to say what you will do, without ever having to do it.

Whatever Farron. Gina Whatsherface or Jack Staff think, the UK will be leaving the EU.
Why the hell people with absolutely no power think that they have a right to try and micromanage the outcome is beyond arrogance.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland will once again become a stand alone, independent country.
We will deal with whom we choose and will not be dictated to by others.

It's called taking back control.

There may be tough and rocky times ahead, but they will be OUR tough and rocky times and our generally useless politicians will no longer be able to hide behind the façade of the EU, blaming them for many of our ills.

To win power, they will need to put the UK first, second and third in every decision made.
I don't vote for an MP for them to become a 'face' on the world scene, I vote for them to do the absolute best for the local area.
The sooner the next generation of decision makers realise this, the better

I like the cut of your gib barney

[Mervyn and Trish]

I heard old Jezzer on the case today. Gordon Brown called us bigots, then we were racists and now Jezzer goes for xenophobes.

No I'm not a bigot, racist or xenophobic. I'm claustrophobic. Our island is too overcrowded and our public services too stretched for the uncontrolled net migration we've been enduring. People of all nations and colours who have something to contribute are welcome. Those who come to beg and scrounge are not. And we want the right to decide.

Jezzer you just don't get it, which is one of the many reasons you'll never be PM.

[oldbluefox]

I am getting a little bit tired of all the snakes in the grass who are doing their best to undermine Brexit and who care little for what their actions are doing to damage UK Inc. Inane questions like 'What does Brexit mean?' are a distraction. Their name calling and delaying tactics suggest logical reasoning is failing and merely demonstrates their developing desperation.

I also find it ironical that Mrs Krankie is so determined for Scotland to stay in the EU but equally determined to leave the UK.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I don't understand Krankie either. Doesn't want to be ruled by Westminster where she has 56 MPs out of 650. Wants to be ruled by Brussels where she has 2 MEPs out of 751

[oldbluefox]

I don't understand Krankie either. Doesn't want to be ruled by Westminster where she has 56 MPs out of 650. Wants to be ruled by Brussels where she has 2 MEPs out of 751

.......................................unless it's an anti English policy. Now what were they saying about racism and xenophobia?
Perhaps the Remainers can explain that which at first view appears a paradox, eh Barney?

[towny44]

I understand that Krankies £10-£40 billion investment pact with the Chinese has broken down, before it even got started, so much for the Scots Nats ability to play in the big boys pond.

[CaroleF]

It really makes me cross when I hear some of the Remainers say that those of us who voted for Brexit didn't really understand what we were doing! What arrogance! What they mean is that we didn't vote their way so we must be stupid! Don't they realise, it's called Democracy!

Carole

[qbman1]

I don't think anyone really knew what they were voting for - Remain or Leave but it was the desire to change a flawed system that won out in the end. I feel sure we will see a similar trend in elections across Europe over the next year or so.

[barney]

Michele Dewbury was brilliant on The Pledge on Sky news the other night.

She's from Hull and turned up in a flat cap with a whippet.

She said that she hadn't realised that she was stupid, ignorant, racist and a xenophobe, until she decide to vote to leave the EU.

She's clearly a highly intelligent and successful woman who called both the Brexit vote and the Trump victory correctly.

The Snowflakes just don't seem to get their heads around the fact that it's them, not the others, who are out of step.

[Onelife]

I don't think anyone really knew what they were voting for - Remain or Leave but it was the desire to change a flawed system that won out in the end. I feel sure we will see a similar trend in elections across Europe over the next year or so.

I would go along with that qb... and I wouldn't mind betting you are right about the destiny of Europe as well.

[oldbluefox]

I really do like Michele Dewbury. She is not afraid to stick her head above the wall, says what she genuinely believes, and can justify it, and is very clear in her thinking. Stupid, ignorant, racist, xenophobic just because she has an opinion which doesn't match those of the far and liberal left? Nobody can deny she is anything but.
Why did Lewis Smith get hauled over the coals for such a silly and stupid act yet a 15 year old muslim girl at a Greater Manchester Grammar School films herself throwing a bible down the drain and there are no consequences? What would have happened had it been a Koran? My view, for what it is worth, is that neither is acceptable but everything should be kept in perspective, including the actions of Lewis Smith and it is over-reaction and inconsistency on racist issues which cause the problems.

[oldbluefox]

Does anybody else feel, as I do, tremendous admiration and respect for the 'white helmets' rescue services working in Syria. They themselves face the same dangers from the bombs and bullets and yet, time after time put themselves in the firing line to rescue children and adults from collapsed buildings. How brave and selfless are they?

[Silver_Shiney]

Well said, Foxy

[Onelife]

Does anybody else feel, as I do, tremendous admiration and respect for the 'white helmets' rescue services working in Syria. They themselves face the same dangers from the bombs and bullets and yet, time after time put themselves in the firing line to rescue children and adults from collapsed buildings. How brave and selfless are they?

Your respect is well placed foxy. It takes a certain kind of person who is willing to put their own lives on the front line in the hope of saving others....l of course included doctors, nurses and other humanitarian aid workers who do the same.

[towny44]

Would our resident apologist for the BBC like to comment on the extremely one sided news coverage today about the autumn statement and its effect on the real increase (or not) in the value of wages during this decade. The IFS might call itself the leading independent research institute but all the comments I ever hear from Paul Johnson could just as easily have come from a Guardian editorial.
No mention of the fact that the UK economy is forecast to grow at least as strongly as Germany over the next 3/4 years, nor that France, Belgium, Spain and Italy amongst others in the EU have a worse national debt to GDP ratio than the UK, and whilst ours is reducing their's is growing.
Good job for the BBC news editor that I'm not in charge, otherwise he would locked up in the tower.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Would our resident apologist for the BBC like to comment on the extremely one sided news coverage today about the autumn statement and its effect on the real increase (or not) in the value of wages during this decade. The IFS might call itself the leading independent research institute but all the comments I ever hear from Paul Johnson could just as easily have come from a Guardian editorial.
No mention of the fact that the UK economy is forecast to grow at least as strongly as Germany over the next 3/4 years, nor that France, Belgium, Spain and Italy amongst others in the EU have a worse national debt to GDP ratio than the UK, and whilst ours is reducing their's is growing.
Good job for the BBC news editor that I'm not in charge, otherwise he would locked up in the tower.

Well oddly I did hear on the BBC that our economy is among the strongest growing in the developed world. Not sure how you missed that.

I do agree, however, that the choice of one particular "expert" seemed rather one-sided. But it's all gone to pot since I left and I was rather more interested in Masterchef and a rather good drama on BBC2 last night!