Current Affairs

[Stephen]

You ventured North Foxy . and got out in one peice. Lucky lucky man.

It looked empty so I just popped in. I thought Rab C Nesbitt was a fictional character.
Goes to look for tin hat and takes cover

You can borrow mine ......and the stab vest

[Happydays]

Not like that where I live:)

[oldbluefox]

Don't let Mrs Krankie anywhere near then.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I have voted on a petition "Another Scottish independence referendum should not be allowed to happen" the signatures on it at moment is 176,456.
It goes on to say "We in Scotland are fed up of persecution by the SNP leader who is solely intent on getting independence at any cost. As a result, Scotland is suffering hugely. I know of many people who have voted on this petition... have a look!

Too true. I'm not a Scot but it does annoy me when Krankie rattles on about wanting more power and neglects properly exercising those she does have!

[AileenB]

I have also signed the same petition. Total now heading towards 180000. I agree that Ms Sturgeon does Scotland no favours. Apparently she's now back peddling on the date of the referendum that we don't need anyway!

[oldbluefox]

I get the impression that Mrs Krankie is determined to push Scotland towards independence no matter what the consequences are since she can always blame England if it all falls flat. Salmond tried and failed so now Sturgeon is making a determined push.

[Mervyn and Trish]

The Green Party are curious. They're a single interest party determined to make the environment better by promoting things such as renewable energy and reducing dependence on fossil fuels.

So here they are as the only party which says they'll support the SNP in demanding a referendum on independence. Independence which would be funded, according to the SNP last time, by oil.

[oldbluefox]

I think Mrs Krankie has quite conveniently forgotten about revenue from oil. She is now busy touting for support from other devolved parliaments which could ultimately lead to the collapse of a United Kingdom if she had her way. Other nations are looking on with interest.
She says Mrs May is denying Scotland a vote on their independence. This is a lie because, as I understand it Mrs May has told her to wait until after Brexit so the Scottish people know what they are voting for. That seems reasonable to me from my side of the border but I am not a Scot.

I think all of this talk of independence is to detract from Brexit negotiations and cause as much mayhem and distraction as she can at a crucial time, which is why she has chosen her time. I wish Mrs May would call her bluff, grant her wish to hold a referendum but it has to be held immediately. Get it out of the way and then it would be up to the people of Scotland to vote accordingly. For the UK we would then know whether we were going forward as a United Kingdom or having dropped one who would need to make their own arrangements. However, if Scotland did decide to go it alone it would have to be totally independent in terms of currency, security, trade, commerce etc. How many would lose their jobs at Lossiemouth as a consequence of losing the submarine base there, just as one example?

[Silver_Shiney]

Stick her atop the Old Man of You and let her declare that as independent...

[anniec]

She says Mrs May is denying Scotland a vote on their independence. This is a lie because, as I understand it Mrs May has told her to wait until after Brexit so the Scottish people know what they are voting for. That seems reasonable to me from my side of the border but I am not a Scot.

I suspect it's simpler than that, and she doesn't actually want a referendum that she's pretty sure she'd lose (again): make a lot of noise, then blame May for blocking a new poll.

[Mervyn and Trish]

You may be right Annie.

And maybe she and Theresa May have one thing in common. They believe a good Brexit deal is possible and she wants a referendum before that is confirmed and before the next elections for the Scottish Parliament.

If she really believes the deal will be bad for Scotland surely better to wait and then go into that election on a promise of a new referendum on independence. It would be hard to deny her then.

Her rush suggests you are right.

[screwy]

I think Mrs Krankie has quite conveniently forgotten about revenue from oil. She is now busy touting for support from other devolved parliaments which could ultimately lead to the collapse of a United Kingdom if she had her way. Other nations are looking on with interest.
She says Mrs May is denying Scotland a vote on their independence. This is a lie because, as I understand it Mrs May has told her to wait until after Brexit so the Scottish people know what they are voting for. That seems reasonable to me from my side of the border but I am not a Scot.

I think all of this talk of independence is to detract from Brexit negotiations and cause as much mayhem and distraction as she can at a crucial time, which is why she has chosen her time. I wish Mrs May would call her bluff, grant her wish to hold a referendum but it has to be held immediately. Get it out of the way and then it would be up to the people of Scotland to vote accordingly. For the UK we would then know whether we were going forward as a United Kingdom or having dropped one who would need to make their own arrangements. However, if Scotland did decide to go it alone it would have to be totally independent in terms of currency, security, trade, commerce etc. How many would lose their jobs at Lossiemouth as a consequence of losing the submarine base there, just as one example?

Just a quick point OBF. Lossiemouth is the RAF Base, the Submarine Base is at Faslane and Coulport. But yes, quite agree, i mentioned this some time ago before the last Ind referendum, Who will give them Military defence. Does the rest of the UK keep the bases there as Soveriegn bases.? Also the Gov moved the Naval repair yards to Scotland from Plymout etc, do they return and with what job losses to Scotland. Just my thoughts.

[Happydays]

She says Mrs May is denying Scotland a vote on their independence. This is a lie because, as I understand it Mrs May has told her to wait until after Brexit so the Scottish people know what they are voting for. That seems reasonable to me from my side of the border but I am not a Scot.

I suspect it's simpler than that, and she doesn't actually want a referendum that she's pretty sure she'd lose (again): make a lot of noise, then blame May for blocking a new poll.

This is what we think as well and it keeps her in the news!
The timing was right to get her supporters in a frenzy for the party conference this weekend

[anniec]

You may be right Annie.

And maybe she and Theresa May have one thing in common. They believe a good Brexit deal is possible and she wants a referendum before that is confirmed and before the next elections for the Scottish Parliament.

If she really believes the deal will be bad for Scotland surely better to wait and then go into that election on a promise of a new referendum on independence. It would be hard to deny her then.

Her rush suggests you are right.

Very interesting piece by Dominic Lawson in today's Sunday Times, saying it all so much better than I. One of the most interesting points is that many of the ordinary voters who want Scottish independence also want out of the EU, unlike the SNP leadership.

[Silver_Shiney]

My mum, who's as Scottish as they come, calls her a overstuffed little haggis...

[oldbluefox]

Why don't the Scots have a referendum to see if they should have a referendum?

[Silver_Shiney]

paid for, of course, by the overstuffed little haggis!

[towny44]

It is being suggested in the papers today that the conservatives are considering a general election on May 4th, it could be a great idea if the polls are correct about a Tory lead, it might also reduce the number of Scots Nats in Westminster.

[oldbluefox]

What are the chances of the SNP self imploding both in Holyrood and in Westminster?

[Jack Staff]

Still just worried about the SNP?

[Mervyn and Trish]

No Jack. I also worry about what colour pants to put on tomorrow.

[Kenmo1]

No Jack. I also worry about what colour pants to put on tomorrow.

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Maureen

[Mervyn and Trish]

Why don't the Scots have a referendum to see if they should have a referendum?

Or maybe a referendum to see if they want a referendum to see if they should have a referendum.

[Jack Staff]

No Jack. I also worry about what colour pants to put on tomorrow.

I just use the ones on top in the drawer. Each to their own.
Seeing as how you are currently into such mental exercise though, May the fourth be with you.

[towny44]

No Jack. I also worry about what colour pants to put on tomorrow.

I just use the ones on top in the drawer. Each to their own.
Seeing as how you are currently into such mental exercise though, May the fourth be with you.

Will that be the day the English Empire strikes back?