Current Affairs

[Jack Staff]

It looks like the Office for National Statistics who provided the statistics are Brexiters.

Not disputing the figure itself. Just the interpretation. The upcoming leaders summit will decide our fate. They will not consider the £60 billion, they will be thinking about their £2.2 billion portion of it. So they may not be quite so concerned about our departure as you seem to think.

[oldbluefox]

Not sure the workers at Mercedes, VW, Audi, Renault, Citroen, Peugeot, Seat, Fiat, nor the flower exporters of Holland, the wine producers of Spain, Italy, France and Germany amongst others would agree with you. Of course they will be concerned.

[Jack Staff]

Not sure the workers at Mercedes, VW, Audi, Renault, Citroen, Peugeot, Seat, Fiat, nor the flower exporters of Holland, the wine producers of Spain, Italy, France and Germany amongst others would agree with you. Of course they will be concerned.

Brexit is an ill wind.

[towny44]

I really don't know why we keep discussing this with Jack, he is after all only one and we are many, if not quite 27.

[Jack Staff]

I really don't know why we keep discussing this with Jack, he is after all only one and we are many, if not quite 27.

Democracy

[Mervyn and Trish]

Which is precisely why we're leaving!

[CaroleF]

Absolutely, Mervyn. I must admit I can't be bothered reading through the long missives any more.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Nor me. Same old arguments. We voted out. Let's get on with it and move on.

[Stephen]

Should be called the 'Magic Roundabout' thread.

[Mervyn and Trish]

"Time for bed" said Zebedee. Boing.

[qbman1]

It's all over the canteen !

[Gill W]

I really don't know why we keep discussing this with Jack, he is after all only one and we are many, if not quite 27.

Remain supporters normally avoid this thread or have unfortunately left the forum completely

[Frank Manning]

True Gill.

[oldbluefox]

In a current affairs topic is there nothing else to discuss other than the EU? If the issue is raised of course people will respond to it. However there are other areas of the forum members can get involved in; it doesn't have to be Current Affairs. Why not open your own topics? I don't understand why anybody should leave the forum just because somebody else has a different opinion to their own.
Remainers and Brexiters will never agree but having a fallout over the matter is silly IMO. Passionate though the arguments/debates with Jack Staff have been, on both sides, I don't feel there is any animosity between us. I certainly hope Jack feels that way and views other members for what they are, individuals with different opinions.

[Gill W]

I don't want to dig it all up again, but, in an environment where you are in a minority it can be very uncomfortable, to put it mildly.

[Gill W]

True Gill.

Good to hear from you, Frank

[Manoverboard]

As a Watford supporter I am used to being a minority ... and it doesn't bother me at all.

Cos I don't take it personally I suppose.

[oldbluefox]

As a Watford supporter I am used to being a minority

That's understandable. We all have our crosses to bear.

Cos I don't take it personally I suppose.

If I took everything personally I would have been long gone years ago.

[Gill W]

As a Watford supporter I am used to being a minority ... and it doesn't bother me at all.

Cos I don't take it personally I suppose.

Imagine being a Watford supporter on a forum for a different club - that might be a bit uncomfortable. That's how I've felt from time to time.

I forgot though, Brexiters never take anything personally

[oldbluefox]

Why would Mob go onto another football club's forum? It doesn't make sense. I have just looked and there are 18 active topics on CC so if one of them upsets you what is wrong with the other 17 when there is also the option of opening your own topic? I don't understand.

Surprised at your final comment considering you said earlier "I don't want to dig it all up again........." but your sarcasm hasn't been wasted.

[oldbluefox]

Did everybody come out of last night's storms unscathed? We had a couple of plant pots blown over, the bird feeders were on the ground and my wife's cyclamen had all their heads blown off just leaving stalks but apart from that no further damage and all the leaves are now piled in a nice tidy heap by the back gate. It was a truly wild night up here as Ophelia passed through, and it is still windy but not anywhere near as bad as it was. Unfortunately there are lots of places nearby which had electricity supplies cut off so I suppose we were fortunate and the trees around us will have broken the wind up.

[Gill W]

Why would Mob go onto another football club's forum? It doesn't make sense. I have just looked and there are 18 active topics on CC so if one of them upsets you what is wrong with the other 17 when there is also the option of opening your own topic? I don't understand.

Surprised at your final comment considering you said earlier "I don't want to dig it all up again........." but your sarcasm hasn't been wasted.

I think that's the problem - the majority are comfortable in their surroundings with like minded people and can't or won't use a bit of imagination how awkward it feels for the few with a different opinion.

I only brought it up again as someone was so happy about being in a huge majority.

However, I'm in the minority again, so I'll leave you to it

[oldbluefox]

Actually football supporters from different clubs do join other clubs' forums and indeed, they are in a minority but they are able to join in with the discussions, put forward their own views and trade banter. Looking at the Foxes forum there are supporters from other clubs, including teams from parts of Europe so it's unusual but not unknown.
However as far as Mob joining the Foxes forum I would have to think about that one..................................

[Ray Scully]

Usually I am quite happy to have an alternative opinion, however I tend to keep my powder dry as far as Brexit is concerned, Similarly as far as contesting an entrenched viewpoint where smoking was discussed.

[Manoverboard]

I think that I understand Gill's point but ...

Would have to advise that, for me, belonging to a Forum absolutely does not mean that we all have to have the same views nor support the same point of view nor even to agree with each other all / most / some of the time.

My posts are my opinion alone and if somebody wishes to challenge that opinion then fine go ahead. I will either defend my opinion else happily accept that my opinion could be revised to accommodate a point I had previously overlooked ... isn't this how we learn ?

On the Footy Forum front I can opt to agree with a fellow poster else tear into him / her because their opinion of a player's performance in a recent match could be wildly different to my own. Either or neither of us could be wrong. Fine no problem and the difference will be just that and will definitely not result in me leaving the Forum because some / many / all of the others had a different slant on that performance. We will then do it all again after the following game and so on ... and why not ?

We should be sincere with our opinions but we should not get upset or take it personally if a.n.other disagrees with it ... is the ideal.