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Jack Staff wrote: 27 Nov 2017, 23:10
barney wrote: 27 Nov 2017, 21:45
I'll be delighted when we are in a position to tread our own path.
It's going to be a very lonely path. The Brexiter attitude is managing to alienate every friend we ever had.
How very strange to be so unpopular yet still, even after the Brexit decision was made last year, in excess of 100,000 EU citizens still deemed this a better country to live and work, than where they were from.
For someone who appears quite erudite, you do seem alarmingly naïve about the real situation. ;)

No one will come to 'our aid' as you so childishly put it. No one will need to.

You seem to like to give the impression that the UK is some minor back water, struggling to make it's way in the world.

Why do you dislike your own country so much?

About THE only thing that the EU is united on at the moment is the stance on Brexit.
Who will be first to blink?

Spanish tourism and agriculture?
French wine growers and agriculture?
Italian engineering?
German cars?
Irish beef?
Dutch flowers?
Danish bacon?

Watch this space Jack !! :thumbup:
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barney wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 14:27
Why do you dislike your own country so much?
I love my country. So much so that I want to protect it from the 17,410,742 people who foolishly voted to:
Turn our country from the fastest growing EU economy into the slowest.
Devalue our currency by 20%.
Lose the respect of the worlds nations so that we no longer have a judge at the International Courts of Justice.
Rekindle a possible civil war in Northern Ireland.
- Just some of the benefits of Brexit that have already happened and we haven't even left yet.

Perhaps you could explain why you think any of the above is good for my country?
barney wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 14:27
Watch this space Jack !! :thumbup:
I think you will find it is the Brexiters who caused this mess that now need to look out for the 47,723,837 that didn't.
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Hey guys, Brexit, It's just not going to happen

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Jack Staff wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 21:43
barney wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 14:27
Why do you dislike your own country so much?
I love my country. So much so that I want to protect it from the 17,410,742 people who foolishly voted to:
Turn our country from the fastest growing EU economy into the slowest.
Devalue our currency by 20%.
Lose the respect of the worlds nations so that we no longer have a judge at the International Courts of Justice.
Rekindle a possible civil war in Northern Ireland.
- Just some of the benefits of Brexit that have already happened and we haven't even left yet.

Perhaps you could explain why you think any of the above is good for my country?
barney wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 14:27
Watch this space Jack !! :thumbup:
I think you will find it is the Brexiters who caused this mess that now need to look out for the 47,723,837 that didn't.
Glad to see you take the view that those who didn't vote at all are against Brexit. Including from your figures all the schoolchildren and babies in the country who aren't actually eligible to vote. Or does Jezzer now want the voting age to be reduced to 0?

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 22:19
Glad to see you take the view that those who didn't vote at all are against Brexit. Including from your figures all the schoolchildren and babies in the country who aren't actually eligible to vote. Or does Jezzer now want the voting age to be reduced to 0?
Just indicating how outnumbered you guys actually are in the population. You seem to think you are headed to a wonderland where everyone is grateful for what you have done. It will not be so.

I assume you mean Corbyn. How should I know? He's one of your lot, at the moment anyway.
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Ray Scully wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 21:46
Hey guys, Brexit, It's just not going to happen
I know that, you know that, but I feel some just need a little help to get used to the idea. :)
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Jack Staff wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 21:43
I love my country. So much so that I want to protect it from the 17,410,742 people who foolishly voted to:
Turn our country from the fastest growing EU economy into the slowest.
Devalue our currency by 20%.

Perhaps you could explain why you think any of the above is good for my country?
Jack, please stop exaggerating, the pound has lost 8.5% against the dollar, down from 1.45 to 1.335 and 15% against the euro down from 1.30 to 1.127. You must learn to check out the facts yourself and not rely on the anti brexit social media.
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towny44 wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 23:03
Jack, please stop exaggerating, the pound has lost 8.5% against the dollar, down from 1.45 to 1.335 and 15% against the euro down from 1.30 to 1.127. You must learn to check out the facts yourself and not rely on the anti brexit social media.
So you are happy with everything else?
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towny44 wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 23:03
Jack, please stop exaggerating, the pound has lost 8.5% against the dollar, down from 1.45 to 1.335 and 15% against the euro down from 1.30 to 1.127. You must learn to check out the facts yourself and not rely on the anti brexit social media.
It has fallen by as much as 21 per cent against major currencies and has only strengthened against the Argentinian peso and the Turkish lira among emerging market currencies.
http://www.cityam.com/276230/pound-deva ... pply-today
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Jack Staff wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 22:57
Ray Scully wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 21:46
Hey guys, Brexit, It's just not going to happen
I know that, you know that, but I feel some just need a little help to get used to the idea. :)
Oh ye of little faith, the UK will prosper regardless of any road blocks and pitfalls that the eurocrats put in our way. Brexit will happen it will produce a satisfactory trade deal with the EU and with others around the world. My only word of warning to exporters is do make hay while the sun shines, because once the true value of Brexit is appreciated we are likely to be in for a sustained period of sterling appreciation. Which will be excellent news for all cruisers, as well as land based overseas holiday makers.
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Jack Staff wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 23:08
towny44 wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 23:03
Jack, please stop exaggerating, the pound has lost 8.5% against the dollar, down from 1.45 to 1.335 and 15% against the euro down from 1.30 to 1.127. You must learn to check out the facts yourself and not rely on the anti brexit social media.
It has fallen by as much as 21 per cent against major currencies and has only strengthened against the Argentinian peso and the Turkish lira among emerging market currencies.
http://www.cityam.com/276230/pound-deva ... pply-today
Jack, do the maths yourself, don't rely on remoaning bankers to provide you with false news.
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towny44 wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 23:10
Jack Staff wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 22:57
Ray Scully wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 21:46
Hey guys, Brexit, It's just not going to happen
I know that, you know that, but I feel some just need a little help to get used to the idea. :)
Oh ye of little faith, the UK will prosper regardless of any road blocks and pitfalls that the eurocrats put in our way. Brexit will happen it will produce a satisfactory trade deal with the EU and with others around the world. My only word of warning to exporters is do make hay while the sun shines, because once the true value of Brexit is appreciated we are likely to be in for a sustained period of sterling appreciation. Which will be excellent news for all cruisers, as well as land based overseas holiday makers.
I know it's late, but I think you may have had a tad too much. Hope the headache doesn't last too long in the morning.
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towny44 wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 23:13
Jack, do the maths yourself, don't rely on remoaning bankers to provide you with false news.
Yeah, because they're experts, right?
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Rumour has it the divorce bill could be as much as 55bn Euros. Can't see that going down well with the people of the UK, and she can kiss goodbye to staying in power if she rolls over and forks out that unimaginable amount.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42157443
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Fiftyfive to one hundred Billion, the Irish question, and a huge dose of realism; its all unraveling now. To me it is no longer a question as to what is best for the UK, it's all about the future political careers of Messrs Johnson, Davies, Gove & Fox

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It appears to me however that as we gradually move towards a successful compromise and trade deal with our friends in Europe the Remoaners are getting increasingly desperate to state and re-state their case even though they no longer have one.

Viva la Brexitte :clap:
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Manoverboard wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 10:46
It appears to me however that as we gradually move towards a successful compromise and trade deal with our friends in Europe the Remoaners are getting increasingly desperate to state and re-state their case even though they no longer have one.

Viva la Brexitte :clap:
Money grabbing B......S..:evil:
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Jack Staff wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 23:17
towny44 wrote: 28 Nov 2017, 23:13
Jack, do the maths yourself, don't rely on remoaning bankers to provide you with false news.
Yeah, because they're experts, right?
If he is an expert then I am certainly glad that I do not have any of my money invested in Schroders.
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Manoverboard wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 10:46
It appears to me however that as we gradually move towards a successful compromise and trade deal with our friends in Europe the Remoaners are getting increasingly desperate to state and re-state their case even though they no longer have one.

Viva la Brexitte :clap:
Perhaps then you might like to take this opportunity to restate the Leave camps case?
You know, the £350 million, Turkey joining the Union, being able to trade freely around the world, how Ireland would follow us out, and the best one, that the EU would offer us and even better deal than the one we already have because they are so desperate to keep us in the EU. Any more I've forgotten?
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Jack Staff wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 11:29
Manoverboard wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 10:46
It appears to me however that as we gradually move towards a successful compromise and trade deal with our friends in Europe the Remoaners are getting increasingly desperate to state and re-state their case even though they no longer have one.

Viva la Brexitte :clap:
Perhaps then you might like to take this opportunity to restate the Leave camps case?
You know, the £350 million, Turkey joining the Union, being able to trade freely around the world, how Ireland would follow us out, and the best one, that the EU would offer us and even better deal than the one we already have because they are so desperate to keep us in the EU. Any more I've forgotten?
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Jack Staff wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 11:29
Manoverboard wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 10:46
It appears to me however that as we gradually move towards a successful compromise and trade deal with our friends in Europe the Remoaners are getting increasingly desperate to state and re-state their case even though they no longer have one.

Viva la Brexitte :clap:
Perhaps then you might like to take this opportunity to restate the Leave camps case?
You know, the £350 million, Turkey joining the Union, being able to trade freely around the world, how Ireland would follow us out, and the best one, that the EU would offer us and even better deal than the one we already have because they are so desperate to keep us in the EU. Any more I've forgotten?
I don't need to re-state the case, I voted and we are ( nearly ) OUT.

As for Turkey joining the EU ... now that does really scare me because there are so many of them and coupled with their immediate neighbours it could lead to a situation where far too many may wish to head in our direction for the benefits that the EU insist that we must give them. Once we leave that will not need be the case so we can become happy small minded little Islanders once again.

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Manoverboard wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 12:27
I don't need to re-state the case, I voted and we are ( nearly ) OUT.
Apart from Theresa having a hissy fit and walking away (now the only option) we are staying.
This option(?) is the worst possible for the former Untied Kingdom.
Manoverboard wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 12:27
As for Turkey joining the EU ... now that does really scare me
It was meant to. That's why they said it. Completely untrue of course.
Perhaps then you might like to take this opportunity to restate any of the Leave camps case that was true?
Manoverboard wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 12:27
....so we can become happy small minded little Islanders once again.
Well you said it. Though I think you are being optimistic with the "happy".
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Jack Staff wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 11:29
Manoverboard wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 10:46
It appears to me however that as we gradually move towards a successful compromise and trade deal with our friends in Europe the Remoaners are getting increasingly desperate to state and re-state their case even though they no longer have one.

Viva la Brexitte :clap:
Perhaps then you might like to take this opportunity to restate the Leave camps case?
You know, the £350 million, Turkey joining the Union, being able to trade freely around the world, how Ireland would follow us out, and the best one, that the EU would offer us and even better deal than the one we already have because they are so desperate to keep us in the EU. Any more I've forgotten?
Jack, you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel now, if the comments you quote were mentionec then I completely missed them, but they certainly did not form part of my reasons for voting leav, except perhaps fpr Turkey poosible membership for the same reasons that Moby gave.
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towny44 wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 12:46
Jack, you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel now, if the comments you quote were mentionec then I completely missed them, but they certainly did not form part of my reasons for voting leav, except perhaps fpr Turkey poosible membership for the same reasons that Moby gave.
I'm sorry, I seem to have walked into a Two Ronnies sketch. Answering a question not asked.

Perhaps then you might like to take this opportunity to restate any of the Leave camps case that was true?
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Jack Staff wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 12:56
towny44 wrote: 29 Nov 2017, 12:46
Jack, you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel now, if the comments you quote were mentionec then I completely missed them, but they certainly did not form part of my reasons for voting leav, except perhaps fpr Turkey poosible membership for the same reasons that Moby gave.
I'm sorry, I seem to have walked into a Two Ronnies sketch. Answering a question not asked.

Perhaps then you might like to take this opportunity to restate any of the Leave camps case that was true?
Brexit means Brexit :wave:
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