Brexit

[screwy]

Think i saw him last week on BBC News, wearing his EU Hat and waving a Union Jack and EU Flag,

[barney]

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... be-london/

Pretty much what I've been saying since day one.

If it was attractive to be in Paris or Frankfurt, the money men would already be there.

As the song goes, 'it's all about the money, money, money'

Sure there will be small subsidiary offices set up somewhere or other but London will remain the main place for transactions in Europe, and continue to grow.

What will Project Fear throw up next ?

[oldbluefox]

What happened to the mass exodus predicted by Osborne? Strange how he has gone suddenly quiet............
Maybe big business and finance can see something the Remainers can't and forecast opportunity ahead once we are away from the shackles of the EU. I have no doubt there will be rocky times ahead but it will be worth it once we finally break free.
After all the fear stories put around by the Remain camp that as a consequence of Brexit all EU migrants would have to return home that is another lie which has been exposed. It must be very awkward for the Euro-leaning media at the moment.No doubt Ms Kuennsberg will dream something up.
I wonder what will then happen to the EU after Brexit? Now that will be very interesting.

[barney]

I wonder how many know that the annual GDP of the UK is greater than the twenty bottom nations within the EU, combined.
Yep, combined!

So when Latvia say they will not allow this, and Malta say they will not allow that, it must be put into perspective.
They are financial minnows, and should be treated as such.

If the EU cannot get ratification from all 27, then that will need to be explained to the hundreds of thousands thrown out of work in Europe, to save a 'project'
I think that the penny is now starting to drop.
They thought that if the played hardball long enough, the UK would somehow capitulate.
Now, the EU big wigs know that 'no deal is better than a bad deal' and that the UK government is really prepared to walk away.

At least they are now starting to get serious, instead of posturing and playing to the Brussels audience.
The 100 billion fee has suddenly shrunk to 20 billion, because the other 20 billion is just what we are paying in our last two years of transition.
They conceded on citizens rights and kicked the Irish issue down the road, as expected.

I'd personally like to see May lay out the UK expectations in a public speech.
To tell the EU and the world what the UK preference would be.
Then leave it to the negotiators to get on with it.
I'd like to hear that the UK will give totally tariff free access to the UK market for EU manufactured goods, in return for the same back, but with Financial services tacked on as well.
If the EU cannot agree to that, then the next question is, 'what level would you like the tariffs set at' ?
Whatever they suggest should be acceptable to us, as net gainers in such transactions.
Once out, if Spanish oranges become too expensive due to tariffs, we can simply buy them from elsewhere.
Which EU country will be the first to blink?

As someone who has spent his entire working life in business, I know it's a lot easier to get suppliers than customers.

[oldbluefox]

Whatever they suggest should be acceptable to us, as net gainers in such transactions.
Once out, if Spanish oranges become too expensive due to tariffs, we can simply buy them from elsewhere.
Which EU country will be the first to blink?

The EU are not stupid. They know that and they know their hand is not as strong as some would have you believe. They have played hard ball and thankfully the UK government have not caved in. Maybe now we can get down to some serious negotiating instead of political posturing and come to an agreement for the benefit of the UK and our future relationship with Europe.

Did anybody see the busload of Remainers doing the rounds of London? I find that little group not only deluded but totally embarrassing, and that's as a Brexiteer. If that is what they have been reduced to then God help them. Somebody please go down there and tell them we are leaving the EU and no amount of singing or flag waving is going to stop it. And somebody tell Tony Bliar as well!!!

[david63]

And somebody tell Tony Bliar as well!!!

No point - he has a past record of not listening to anybody except that "little voice in his head"!

[oldbluefox]

And somebody tell Tony Bliar as well!!!

No point - he has a past record of not listening to anybody except that "little voice in his head"!

Otherwise known as Cherie!!!
How ironic that during his reign as PM he made the laws which were then challenged in court by Ms Cherie Blair QC. Heads we win, tails we win!!! What a money grabbing pair!!!

[Stephen]

Can someone tell me what we are actually paying £40 billion for, apart from the millions we already pay each week to the EU, and what happens to that money.

[oldbluefox]

Here you go, Stephen. Try this for an explanation.

[Manoverboard]

We are actually paying £20 ... the other £20 is what we would have been paying anyway.

[Stephen]

Here you go, Stephen. Try this for an explanation.

Thanks Foxy.........clear as EU mud

[oldbluefox]

Here you go, Stephen. Try this for an explanation.

Thanks Foxy.........clear as EU mud

That's why I didn't try to explain it!! Mob's explanation is much easier.

[Stephen]

25498453_1613063708801779_7909859477831599297_n.jpg

[barney]

Anyone else notice a weird interpretation of the statistics in this article

https://www.politico.eu/article/united- ... avor-poll/

It's a bit like the Remoaner population's interpretation of the Brexit result.

The EU elite are so far out of touch, it's unbelievable.

My Maltese friends are closely watching the Italian elections due in March, as the results there could have a massive impact on them, as nearest neighbours.
The current government has agreed to take all illegal migrants that rock up on Malta's shores, but a potentional right wing (5 Star) government seem to have different ideas

https://www.politico.eu/article/norther ... xit-talks/

This is another story that you are unlikely to see in our media.
It appears that the EU official stance doesn't resonate across all areas.
As I've said a few times. who will be the first to blink and break ranks?
My guess is the German car makers.

[oldbluefox]

Smoke and mirrors barney and a great deal which the Remainers would prefer to sweep under the carpet. All is not as rosy in La La Land as Barnier & Co would have us believe.
What happened to the immediate collapse of the UK economy if the country voted Brexit, and the need for George's emergency budget?
As for the United States of Europe am I not glad I voted to leave this bunch of power mongers.

[barney]

June 20th 2016, the $ was 1.37 against the £

So pretty much back to where it was pre referendum on 23rd June

Where's Jack Staff when you need him and why hasn't the world ended yet ?

( Moved to Brexit Topic )


.

[Quizzical Bob]

June 20th 2016, the $ was 1.37 against the £

So pretty much back to where it was pre referendum on 23rd June

Where's Jack Staff when you need him and why hasn't the world ended yet ?

Not true, more Brexit myths.

( Moved to Brexit Topic )


.

[oldbluefox]

Tony Blair.jpg

[towny44]

I suppose Tony has the right to change his mind, I know I have. However I have not changed mine because I want to obtain a highly paid top EU job in Brussels, which won't be available if the UK leaves the EU.

[Stephen]

I suppose Tony has the right to change his mind, I know I have. However I have not changed mine because I want to obtain a highly paid top EU job in Brussels, which won't be available if the UK leaves the EU.

Do you have friends high up in the EU employment exchange John.

[towny44]

I suppose Tony has the right to change his mind, I know I have. However I have not changed mine because I want to obtain a highly paid top EU job in Brussels, which won't be available if the UK leaves the EU.

Do you have friends high up in the EU employment exchange John.

No, but I guess Tony has.

[barney]

I reckon that the EU team cannot believe their luck.

It took them all of two minutes to agree to the ludicrous suggestion from the UK side

https://www.politico.eu/article/michel- ... n-adopted/

Who would have thought that halfwits like this would be 'negotiating' on behalf of our country?

I must admit that I had little faith in May to deliver the countries decision and it seems I'm being proven correct.

So, the bottom line is that we leave in March 2019 but continue to pay in, continue to have free movement, continue with the ECJ over ruling the UK high court, continue to accept any new directives that may come into force until 2020 but ..... we have no seat at the decision making table.
You couldn't make it up if you tried, could you ?
Surely our Government are not going to agree to this. Surely not?

I'd suggest an immediate Canada style deal so no transition is necessary and then watch them wince as they no longer have free access to the City of London and all the clout that brings.
Watch a their businesses go around the world begging for finance.
The City of London is a bigger financial centre that all of the EU's put together.
It's about time our PM grew a pair.

Where is Farage when he is needed ?

[Gill W]

I had promised never to comment in this thread again, but whether you are a Leaver or Remainer, I think everybody can agree that our current crop of politicians are disastrous

[barney]

I couldn't agree more Gill.
Disastrous is an under statement.

[towny44]

Barney, you are quoting the EU 27 requirements for the transition period, I assume that the UK position will not be as stringent, but who knows where they will compromise.
Gill W, the alternative to this shower would be Corbyn and his gang of Robin Hood politicians, feel free to complain all you want about Theresa's gang, but I know which one I prefer.