Brexit

[Jack Staff]

Hearing David Davis has climbed down yet again. That guy really should get a job as a miner!

Still, we all get to enjoy Brexit for a little longer.

[oldbluefox]

I blame towny for taking you away from your prepared script. I don't know what he was thinking of, asking you questions when we all know you are the one who asks the questions. I'll have serious words with him.

[Jack Staff]

I blame towny for taking you away from your prepared script. I don't know what he was thinking of, asking you questions when we all know you are the one who asks the questions. I'll have serious words with him.

It was just a simple question. Shame no one could answer.

Now seems it was May who climbed down to Davis. Personally, I think that's worse.

Waiting for Johnson to come up with his ultimatum. Poor Theresa. We don't have a PM, we have a weather vane.

[oldbluefox]

Hearing David Davis has climbed down yet again. That guy really should get a job as a miner!

Now seems it was May who climbed down to Davis. Personally, I think that's worse.
Waiting for Johnson to come up with his ultimatum. Poor Theresa. We don't have a PM, we have a weather vane.

Can't win, can they? Heads you win, tails they lose.
Sorry you are unable to respond to the points raised by towny.

[Ray Scully]

Brexiteers: Is the real "elephant in the room" concern over Germany's disproportional influence"

[towny44]

Brexiteers: Is the real "elephant in the room" concern over Germany's disproportional influence"

No elephant real or imagined in my room, I am always willing to discuss my reasons with anyone who is interested in the brexit debate, from either side.

[Manoverboard]

Brexiteers: Is the real "elephant in the room" concern over Germany's disproportional influence"

First you developed a phobia about elephants and now it's the Germans … have you considered getting medical help ?

[barney]

https://www.politico.eu/article/wolfgan ... on-brexit/

The Germans certainly seem to be taking it very seriously.

The EU stance is take all the time you want as long as you change your mind eventually.

[Ray Scully]

Brexiteers: Is the real "elephant in the room" concern over Germany's disproportional influence"

First you developed a phobia about elephants and now it's the Germans … have you considered getting medical help ?

Is that the best you can do Moby ?

[Mervyn and Trish]

https://www.politico.eu/article/wolfgan ... on-brexit/

The Germans certainly seem to be taking it very seriously.

The EU stance is take all the time you want as long as you change your mind eventually.

They always did like to repeat referenda until they got the answer they wanted!

[Jack Staff]

Hearing David Davis has climbed down yet again. That guy really should get a job as a miner!

Now seems it was May who climbed down to Davis. Personally, I think that's worse.
Waiting for Johnson to come up with his ultimatum. Poor Theresa. We don't have a PM, we have a weather vane.

Can't win, can they? Heads you win, tails they lose.

That does seem to be the way Brexit is going lately doesn't it? Whatever they do, it's a shambles.

Sorry you are unable to respond to the points raised by towny.

Being British I thought it polite to wait until he answered the question I had previously asked.
Seeing as he (or anyone) seems unable to answer that simple 'How will Brexit benefit British people' question, lets have a look...

What benefits would you like Jack, higher youth unemployment,

Of course not. I suppose you are referring to Spain and Italy? We do not have a monopoly on poor government.

more pointless Brussels red tape regulations,

Perhaps you would be kind enough to name one?

being forced to join the Euro,

The EU can not force us to join the Euro as we have the veto. Would of thought you would have known that.

fishing quotas reduced to a fish pond net full,

You mean the quotas we sold to the Spanish? Even if we do catch more fish, just who are we going to sell them to once we are out of the EU?

being forced to accept an increased quota of economic migrants

Now you are just making it up!

plus anything else Brussels conjures up?

More like what you are trying to conjure up.

[oldbluefox]

Brexiteers: Is the real "elephant in the room" concern over Germany's disproportional influence"

What are you smoking, Ray?

[Jack Staff]

https://www.politico.eu/article/wolfgan ... on-brexit/

The Germans certainly seem to be taking it very seriously.

The EU stance is take all the time you want as long as you change your mind eventually.

The Conservative government will not accept more time as they have promised their paymasters that they will be safe in the UK from...
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/b ... rective_en

That is why A50 was triggered in such a rush, to get it in before the 2 year deadline.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Jack, do tell us about your cruise. After all this is primarily a cruising forum, and it would be far more interesting than the stuck record.

[Jack Staff]

Jack, do tell us about your cruise. After all this is primarily a cruising forum, and it would be far more interesting than the stuck record.

Which one?

[oldbluefox]

Jack, do tell us about your cruise. After all this is primarily a cruising forum, and it would be far more interesting than the stuck record.

Which one?

Any, Jack. Not bothered.

[Jack Staff]

Jack, do tell us about your cruise. After all this is primarily a cruising forum, and it would be far more interesting than the stuck record.

Which one?

Any, Jack. Not bothered.

Seeing as you are all so interested, here's a picture of Oriana I took in Åndalsnes. I think she is trying to tell us something...

[oldbluefox]

Your best post so far!!!!

[Mervyn and Trish]

Jack, do tell us about your cruise. After all this is primarily a cruising forum, and it would be far more interesting than the stuck record.

Which one?

Any of them. All of them. Valuable information for your fellow cruisers..

[towny44]

Hearing David Davis has climbed down yet again. That guy really should get a job as a miner!

Now seems it was May who climbed down to Davis. Personally, I think that's worse.
Waiting for Johnson to come up with his ultimatum. Poor Theresa. We don't have a PM, we have a weather vane.

Can't win, can they? Heads you win, tails they lose.

That does seem to be the way Brexit is going lately doesn't it? Whatever they do, it's a shambles.

Sorry you are unable to respond to the points raised by towny.

Being British I thought it polite to wait until he answered the question I had previously asked.
Seeing as he (or anyone) seems unable to answer that simple 'How will Brexit benefit British people' question, lets have a look...

What benefits would you like Jack, higher youth unemployment,

Of course not. I suppose you are referring to Spain and Italy? We do not have a monopoly on poor government.
Strange that they blame the Euro and Germany

more pointless Brussels red tape regulations,

Perhaps you would be kind enough to name one?
Far too many for me to trawel through.

being forced to join the Euro,

The EU can not force us to join the Euro as we have the veto. Would of thought you would have known that.
Yes I know we have a veto, and I would "have" thought you would appreciate we once had a veto on lots of other things that we no longer have.

fishing quotas reduced to a fish pond net full,

You mean the quotas we sold to the Spanish? Even if we do catch more fish, just who are we going to sell them to once we are out of the EU?
That one was meant to be a little lighthearted, sorry you failed to spot that.

being forced to accept an increased quota of economic migrants

Now you are just making it up!
Brussels seem rather upset that Hungary have told them to p**s off when the EU proposed a quota.

plus anything else Brussels conjures up?

More like what you are trying to conjure up.

I think we can all conjure as well as you Jack.

[Jack Staff]

Hearing David Davis has climbed down yet again. That guy really should get a job as a miner!

Now seems it was May who climbed down to Davis. Personally, I think that's worse.
Waiting for Johnson to come up with his ultimatum. Poor Theresa. We don't have a PM, we have a weather vane.

Can't win, can they? Heads you win, tails they lose.

That does seem to be the way Brexit is going lately doesn't it? Whatever they do, it's a shambles.

Sorry you are unable to respond to the points raised by towny.

Being British I thought it polite to wait until he answered the question I had previously asked.
Seeing as he (or anyone) seems unable to answer that simple 'How will Brexit benefit British people' question, lets have a look...

What benefits would you like Jack, higher youth unemployment,

Of course not. I suppose you are referring to Spain and Italy? We do not have a monopoly on poor government.
Strange that they blame the Euro and Germany
Not strange at all, our government has been blaming the EU for its own failings for 40 years.

more pointless Brussels red tape regulations,

Perhaps you would be kind enough to name one?
Far too many for me to trawel through.
Go on, have a go, should be easy as there are so many. No need to "trawl" a single hook should do it.

being forced to join the Euro,

The EU can not force us to join the Euro as we have the veto. Would of thought you would have known that.
Yes I know we have a veto, and I would "have" thought you would appreciate we once had a veto on lots of other things that we no longer have.
Do tell, what are these lots of other things we no longer have a veto on?

fishing quotas reduced to a fish pond net full,

You mean the quotas we sold to the Spanish? Even if we do catch more fish, just who are we going to sell them to once we are out of the EU?
That one was meant to be a little lighthearted, sorry you failed to spot that.
Yeah missed the joke there,still can't see it actually, sorry.

being forced to accept an increased quota of economic migrants

Now you are just making it up!
Brussels seem rather upset that Hungary have told them to p**s off when the EU proposed a quota.
So you don't understand the difference between proposed and forced?

plus anything else Brussels conjures up?

More like what you are trying to conjure up.
I think we can all conjure as well as you Jack.
I don't think you can on tonight’s evidence (just my little joke here John)

[Jack Staff]

Jack, do tell us about your cruise. After all this is primarily a cruising forum, and it would be far more interesting than the stuck record.

Which one?

Any of them. All of them. Valuable information for your fellow cruisers..

My avatar is a picture I took on my second cruise in 1966. I don't even remember all of them.

[Ray Scully]

Well !! Bojo at it again with his latest pronouncements; another gaff or the way forward?

[Onelife]

l'm starting to get very frustrated with all this pussy-footing around .....from a lay persons prospective l believe the answer to getting things moving is to put it firmly out there that we will walk, and in doing so keep the 40/60? Bilion that the EU are so desperate to get their greedy hands on.

Ok' let them put hefty tariffs on our trade deals...60 billion will go a long way in offsetting/subsidising the imposed tariff costs to our export industries. I'm not a statistician but l'm sure this would give us enough time (years)? to forge more favorable trade deals outside of the EU.

[oldbluefox]

I'm with Onelife. Why do we continue pussy footing around with the EU who persistently refuse to debate and turn down any initiatives we propose.
If they refuse to come to any agreement with us, threaten we will walk away and take our £40 billion with us. Boris' notion that Trump would not put up with all this shilly-shallying is spot on. Maggie Thatcher would be giving them short shrift as well. Perhaps it should be remembered they need us as much as we need them. Fourteen per cent of all cars made in Germeny comes to our shores, twenty per cent of Italy's prosecco is sold in the UK. No deal would be difficult for us but equally there would be quite a few job losses in the EU so it is in everybody's interests to come to an agreement. May needs to grow some.