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I've heard it all now.

On the local news just now a teacher at a school keeps stock of hygiene products for families that can't afford them. :roll:

Mmmm, I wonder how many pitch up in a car with a fag in their mouths while tapping away on a mobile with manicured nails and fancy hair doo!

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Got to agree Stephen.

I was in a supermarket a couple of years ago and a small boy asked his mum for a packet of polos.
She said no they couldn't afford it, when I noticed a bottle of vodka in her trolly and she then trotted off to the 'fag counter'
Makes you wonder dunnit !
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BUT - there are loads of families can't afford the basics - girls who have to take 3 or 4 days off school each month as a result - so don't tar everyone with the same brush.

Plus there's vat on hygiene products
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Meg 50 wrote: 27 Jun 2018, 08:51
BUT - there are loads of families can't afford the basics - girls who have to take 3 or 4 days off school each month as a result - so don't tar everyone with the same brush.

Plus there's vat on hygiene products
I have always thought the VAT on feminine hygiene products nothing short of scandalous. We have/had no choice but to buy them, and they are far from a luxury.

Sadly, there are all too many that really struggle these days, and not all of them are frivolous.
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Well done that teacher …. better that than for the young person to miss her schooling :clap:

I would like to think that Boots or the manufacturers help out with free / very cheap supplies of same.

We also have uncomplimentary thoughts regarding scroungers but we also feel it appropriate to pop in at least a fiver's worth of items into the food bank collection box at Sainsbugs whenever we go shopping there.
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Same here Moby !
We do the same.

There are many, many genuine cases but equally, as many if not more folk who just can't handle their finances.
In the past. I've worked with guys who got paid on Friday and were skint by Monday, and borrowong the money for a pint or two.
Not going to the pub never even entered their heads.
So, their family lived in abject poverty, not because of bad wages but because of bad management.

Anyone in genuine need needs genuine help, but they also have an obligation to help themselves when they can.

As for the Vat on feminine hygiene products, well, you can blame our friends in the EU for that one. (but that's another story)

When you say can't afford the basics Meg, the actual basics to stay clean are extremely cheap, and cost virtually nothing.
A bar of soap. A box of washing suds. A bottle of shampoo. A tube of toothpaste.

Did you know that a couple who smoke a packet a day each (not that unusual) will spend over £4,300 a year.
I'm not moralising, but many really do need to look at their own life style as well.
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barney wrote: 27 Jun 2018, 14:37
Same here Moby !
We do the same.

There are many, many genuine cases but equally, as many if not more folk who just can't handle their finances.
In the past. I've worked with guys who got paid on Friday and were skint by Monday, and borrowong the money for a pint or two.
Not going to the pub never even entered their heads.
So, their family lived in abject poverty, not because of bad wages but because of bad management.

Anyone in genuine need needs genuine help, but they also have an obligation to help themselves when they can.

As for the Vat on feminine hygiene products, well, you can blame our friends in the EU for that one. (but that's another story)

When you say can't afford the basics Meg, the actual basics to stay clean are extremely cheap, and cost virtually nothing.
A bar of soap. A box of washing suds. A bottle of shampoo. A tube of toothpaste.

Did you know that a couple who smoke a packet a day each (not that unusual) will spend over £4,300 a year.
I'm not moralising, but many really do need to look at their own life style as well.
sorry, by basics I meant women's sanitary stuff.

I accept all you say about life-style, but sometimes this means that the genuine cases don't get all the help/sympathy they need. I was at a meeting the other day where someone was talking about their church having a clothes bank and one family one Sunday turned up having walked several miles - and all the clothes the children had was what they stood up in - their school uniform. The whole family sobbed when given a set of clothes
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there are now UK charities who are helping by supplying products. I researched it for the Mothers' Union a few weeks ago - which I why I feel strongly about it.

If you want more info, pm me
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Meg 50 wrote: 27 Jun 2018, 08:51
BUT - there are loads of families can't afford the basics - girls who have to take 3 or 4 days off school each month as a result - so don't tar everyone with the same brush.

Plus there's vat on hygiene products

If they still can't manage with all of the following available then there is something wrong somewhere.

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barney wrote: 27 Jun 2018, 14:37
Same here Moby !
We do the same.

There are many, many genuine cases but equally, as many if not more folk who just can't handle their finances.
In the past. I've worked with guys who got paid on Friday and were skint by Monday, and borrowong the money for a pint or two.
Not going to the pub never even entered their heads.
So, their family lived in abject poverty, not because of bad wages but because of bad management.

Anyone in genuine need needs genuine help, but they also have an obligation to help themselves when they can.

As for the Vat on feminine hygiene products, well, you can blame our friends in the EU for that one. (but that's another story)

When you say can't afford the basics Meg, the actual basics to stay clean are extremely cheap, and cost virtually nothing.
A bar of soap. A box of washing suds. A bottle of shampoo. A tube of toothpaste.

Did you know that a couple who smoke a packet a day each (not that unusual) will spend over £4,300 a year.
I'm not moralising, but many really do need to look at their own life style as well.

No more to say really.


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The only surprising thing is that this made the news....it was happening almost 20 years ago in our school.
I feel it would be more newsworthy to highlight the pressure put on family finances by the US import known as The Prom. It’s not just the cost of the dress/ suit but also the associated hair do etc.
I know one of our neighbouring schools had a supply of prom dresses for loan which had been donated by former pupils but peer pressure being what it is the level of secrecy involved in running the enterprise was quite something.

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As far as basic sanitary products are concerned Meg is absolutely right.....If a man had blood pouring out of his willy once a month then sanitary products would be free on prescription.

As far as the teacher supplying hygiene products.....

One would have hopped a (your child stinks) letter to the child's parent/s will have been the first course of action.

If the teacher feels there is a hygiene issue and all attempts to rectify the situation have failed then l don't see that the teacher has much option other than to supply a couple of wet wipes.....One would hope very discretely as not to stigmatise the child.

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Onelife wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 08:42
As far as basic sanitary products are concerned Meg is absolutely right.....If a man had blood pouring out of his willy once a month then sanitary products would be free on prescription.

As far as the teacher supplying hygiene products.....

One would have hopped a (your child stinks) letter to the child's parent/s will have been the first course of action.

If the teacher feels there is a hygiene issue and all attempts to rectify the situation have failed then l don't see that the teacher has much option other than to supply a couple of wet wipes.....One would hope very discretely as not to stigmatise the child.


Really, good luck with that one.
There seems to be one rule for one and one rule for another about long term medical conditions and associated prescriptions. I know from experience.

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Sorry Stephen l can't comment on individual cases :)

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Onelife wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 11:13
Sorry Stephen l can't comment on individual cases :)

Fair enough..........doctor :D

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Doctor !!! :sick:

A couple of wet wipes …. you're all heart OL, would you have been a happy bunny if your daughter had been treated as you prescribe ?

Apart from that wet wipes clog up the drains and find their way into the food chain out at sea.
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You're only Jealous Mob.....next week l'm going to be airline pilot. :thumbup:

Always in the waste bin and never down the loo is my policy on wet wipes.

As for my beautiful daughter.... what would l know about keeping her clean.....surely that women's work? :angel:

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Onelife wrote: 28 Jun 2018, 16:01
You're only Jealous Mob.....next week l'm going to be airline pilot. :thumbup:

Always in the waste bin and never down the loo is my policy on wet wipes.

As for my beautiful daughter.... what would l know about keeping her clean.....surely that women's work? :angel:

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No worries foxy l'll just have to squeak! A bit louder :thumbup: :)

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