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Brexit
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
Last edited by oldbluefox on 06 Sep 2018, 07:05, edited 1 time in total.
I was taught to be cautious
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
"If Britain left the EU we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by Brussels".oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 07:03Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
Boris Johnson 2013
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
I don't have a problem with that. The problem I have is in answering your questions which you keep repeating but you ignore the answers or nitpick the bits you want. It hardly makes for a measured debate, If this is what is happening in Brussels I am hardly surprised the negotiations have struggled to get off the ground and why a no deal scenario is looming unless the two sides see sense.Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:29"If Britain left the EU we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by Brussels".oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 07:03Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
Boris Johnson 2013
I was taught to be cautious
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
But you never do answer my questions do you? Unless you consider "If you don't understand .... by now you never will" or "Look back at previous posts" which don't exist or just general 'whataboutery' an answer.oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:48I don't have a problem with that. The problem I have is in answering your questions which you keep repeating but you ignore the answers or nitpick the bits you want. It hardly makes for a measured debate, If this is what is happening in Brussels I am hardly surprised the negotiations have struggled to get off the ground and why a no deal scenario is looming unless the two sides see sense.Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:29"If Britain left the EU we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by Brussels".oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 07:03Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
Boris Johnson 2013
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Onelife
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Re: Brexit
To be fair Jack l would imagine Foxy is a very busy man and probably hasn't the time or the inclination to trawl through links to support repetitive posts like wot you doJack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:54But you never do answer my questions do you? Unless you consider "If you don't understand .... by now you never will" or "Look back at previous posts" which don't exist or just general 'whataboutery' an answer.oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:48I don't have a problem with that. The problem I have is in answering your questions which you keep repeating but you ignore the answers or nitpick the bits you want. It hardly makes for a measured debate, If this is what is happening in Brussels I am hardly surprised the negotiations have struggled to get off the ground and why a no deal scenario is looming unless the two sides see sense.Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:29"If Britain left the EU we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by Brussels".oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 07:03Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
Boris Johnson 2013
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
I was not trying to be unfair. We are all busy, but I found that if I don't back up my comments I get accused of being all sorts of things. Apart from specific pieces, I wish i didn't have too.
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Onelife
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Re: Brexit
l will give you some slack on that one Jack and if truth be known, those of us who do tune into this thread would be a little disappointed if your posts, 'albiet bl**dy repetitive'Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 10:52I was not trying to be unfair. We are all busy, but I found that if I don't back up my comments I get accused of being all sorts of things. Apart from specific pieces, I wish i didn't have too.
l'm sending you a box of tissues just in case it all gets too much for you
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Ray Scully
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Re: Brexit
I think I understand the reasonsoldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 07:03Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
1) Ideology
2) Ideology
4) Immigration
3) Fed a fictions narrative
4) Just wanting to kick the political establishment
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Stephen
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Re: Brexit
Onelife wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:22l will give you some slack on that one Jack and if truth be known, those of us who do tune into this thread would be a little disappointed if your posts, 'albiet bl**dy repetitive'Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 10:52I was not trying to be unfair. We are all busy, but I found that if I don't back up my comments I get accused of being all sorts of things. Apart from specific pieces, I wish i didn't have too.weren't to appear.
l'm sending you a box of tissues just in case it all gets too much for you![]()
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
Jack, I have repeatedly given you my reasons for wanting to leave the EU, but you seem to think that I should include a financial benefit amongst them. Although I don't think the project fear scenario will occur, I am prepared for some sort of economic slowdown or adjustment to life outside the EU. However I fully expect this to be minor, and well worth it to be free of the EU. Now I know this thinking is totally alien to you, but please accept it in the same way that we accept your blinkered and rosy view of life under Junckers thumb.Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 10:52I was not trying to be unfair. We are all busy, but I found that if I don't back up my comments I get accused of being all sorts of things. Apart from specific pieces, I wish i didn't have too.
John
Trainee Pensioner since 2000
Trainee Pensioner since 2000
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Thanks Keith, very kind. But you should keep hold of them, to dry your eyes and to wave goodbye to the Brexity dream. Won't be long now!Onelife wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:22l will give you some slack on that one Jack and if truth be known, those of us who do tune into this thread would be a little disappointed if your posts, 'albiet bl**dy repetitive'weren't to appear.
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Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
That is why people get up in the morning. Something you have obviously forgotten over the last 18 years.towny44 wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:49Jack, I have repeatedly given you my reasons for wanting to leave the EU, but you seem to think that I should include a financial benefit amongst them.
So no financial benefit then. Having spent the whole of your working life trying to get money, you now want to stop others doing the same.towny44 wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:49Although I don't think the project fear scenario will occur, I am prepared for some sort of economic slowdown or adjustment to life outside the EU.
However I fully expect this to be minor, and well worth it to be free of the EU.
I certainly will accept it in the "same way that we accept your blinkered and rosy view of life under Junckers thumb".towny44 wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:49Now I know this thinking is totally alien to you, but please accept it in the same way that we accept your blinkered and rosy view of life under Junckers thumb.
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
Clearly you thought wrongly. Time to put your Remainer blinkers to one side and go back to post#1. Do not pass Go and do not collect £200.Ray Scully wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:25I think I understand the reasonsoldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 07:03Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
1) Ideology
2) Ideology
4) Immigration
3) Fed a fictions narrative
4) Just wanting to kick the political establishment
Last edited by oldbluefox on 06 Sep 2018, 12:43, edited 1 time in total.
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
I am not quite sure what impact the last paragraph was trying to convey, it went over my head.Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 12:16That is why people get up in the morning. Something you have obviously forgotten over the last 18 years.towny44 wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:49Jack, I have repeatedly given you my reasons for wanting to leave the EU, but you seem to think that I should include a financial benefit amongst them.
Money should never be anyones sole motivation for living, which seems to be your viewSo no financial benefit then. Having spent the whole of your working life trying to get money, you now want to stop others doing the same.towny44 wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:49Although I don't think the project fear scenario will occur, I am prepared for some sort of economic slowdown or adjustment to life outside the EU.
However I fully expect this to be minor, and well worth it to be free of the EU.
Life will still continue and anyone who puts in the extra effort will undoubtedly continue to enjoy a great standard of living.I certainly will accept it in the "same way that we accept your blinkered and rosy view of life under Junckers thumb".towny44 wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:49Now I know this thinking is totally alien to you, but please accept it in the same way that we accept your blinkered and rosy view of life under Junckers thumb.
John
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Trainee Pensioner since 2000
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
In just one instant it didn't take too much to dispel another of your little porkies............Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:54But you never do answer my questions do you? Unless you consider "If you don't understand .... by now you never will" or "Look back at previous posts" which don't exist or just general 'whataboutery' an answer.oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:48I don't have a problem with that. The problem I have is in answering your questions which you keep repeating but you ignore the answers or nitpick the bits you want. It hardly makes for a measured debate, If this is what is happening in Brussels I am hardly surprised the negotiations have struggled to get off the ground and why a no deal scenario is looming unless the two sides see sense.Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:29"If Britain left the EU we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by Brussels".oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 07:03Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
Boris Johnson 2013
"Re: Brexit #1817 by oldbluefox » 05 Sep 2018 20:57
It didn't take much Googling to come up with the answer to your question.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2018/07/04/wh ... ing-badly/
https://www.opinium.co.uk/brexit-going- ... ing-sides/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 11771.html
Post #1797 also touches on the faults of the 'Brexit mess' as just one of the many posts on this forum".
I was taught to be cautious
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Manoverboard
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Re: Brexit
Don't be a fool man, there'll be a major shortage come of those Brexit DayOnelife wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:22
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Keep smiling, it's good for your well being
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oldbluefox
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Exactly my point, more whataboutery.oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 12:53In just one instant it didn't take too much to dispel another of your little porkies............Jack Staff wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 09:54But you never do answer my questions do you? Unless you consider "If you don't understand .... by now you never will" or "Look back at previous posts" which don't exist or just general 'whataboutery' an answer.
"Re: Brexit #1817 by oldbluefox » 05 Sep 2018 20:57
It didn't take much Googling to come up with the answer to your question.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2018/07/04/wh ... ing-badly/
https://www.opinium.co.uk/brexit-going- ... ing-sides/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 11771.html
Post #1797 also touches on the faults of the 'Brexit mess' as just one of the many posts on this forum".
If you don't want to take credit for Brexit, fine.
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Operation "Yellowhammer" eh?
It'll be fine they said....
It'll be fine they said....
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Ray Scully
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Re: Brexit
OBF I will put my Remainer blinker to one side if you will put your Leaver blinkers to one side.oldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 12:34Clearly you thought wrongly. Time to put your Remainer blinkers to one side and go back to post#1. Do not pass Go and do not collect £200.Ray Scully wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:25I think I understand the reasonsoldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 07:03Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
1) Ideology
2) Ideology
4) Immigration
3) Fed a fictions narrative
4) Just wanting to kick the political establishment
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
No problem Ray. I may get more sense out of you.
You'll not be getting the £200 though!!!

You'll not be getting the £200 though!!!
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I was taught to be cautious
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Gill W
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Re: Brexit
5) Blue passportsRay Scully wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 11:25I think I understand the reasonsoldbluefox wrote: 06 Sep 2018, 07:03Wall bangs brick head wall against..........
If you don't understand the reasons behind the Brexit vote by now you never will.
1) Ideology
2) Ideology
4) Immigration
3) Fed a fictions narrative
4) Just wanting to kick the political establishment
Gill
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Gill W
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Stephen
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Gill W
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Re: Brexit
So the Civil Contingencies Office is planning for a no deal Brexit. They deal with stuff like floods , disease and other disasters.
This is not a Project Fear drill, this is reality.
Are you all STILL happy about a no deal Brexit?
This is not a Project Fear drill, this is reality.
Are you all STILL happy about a no deal Brexit?
Gill