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Ray Scully
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Labour Party Leader
If Sir Keir Starmer was the leader of the Labour Party would you be more inclined to vote for them?
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screwy
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If ever Hell froze over i might consider it.
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poole boy
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No as over 17 million people voted for brexit in a fair vote and he is saying do it my way anyway
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Mervyn and Trish
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Labour need to change their leader, several others in their top team, and a lot of their policies, before I'd vote for them. Some people claim Brexit will damage the economy. It will be a pin prick compared to the results of the lunacy Corbyn and co are considering.
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I am rapidly coming to the opinion that McDonell is a bigger threat than any leader/potential leader of the Labour PartyMervyn and Trish wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 17:09Labour need to change their leader, several others in their top team, and a lot of their policies, before I'd vote for them. Some people claim Brexit will damage the economy. It will be a pin prick compared to the results of the lunacy Corbyn and co are considering.
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oldbluefox
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If you think a No Deal Brexit will be bad it will be as nothing if this bunch of looney tunes get in.
I was taught to be cautious
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screwy
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Mervyn and Trish
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Or think they would be good for them. Which is not necessarily the same thing.
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Agree wholeheartedly - a very dangerous mandavid63 wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 18:10I am rapidly coming to the opinion that McDonell is a bigger threat than any leader/potential leader of the Labour PartyMervyn and Trish wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 17:09Labour need to change their leader, several others in their top team, and a lot of their policies, before I'd vote for them. Some people claim Brexit will damage the economy. It will be a pin prick compared to the results of the lunacy Corbyn and co are considering.
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I'll not have a word said against Tony Bliar!!!!screwy wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 20:55Trouble is a lot of Looneys think they would be good for the country.
I was taught to be cautious
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oldbluefox
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McDonnell is an avowed Marxist. Is that what we want? The influence of Momentum is frightening.
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Mervyn and Trish
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It's not the influence of Momentum I fear - that's the same as the left wing faction who made Labour unelectable in the past. In time the electorate would recognise that as they did before.
What I fear is that in the shorter term the politics of greed might get them elected for at least a single term. They are clever enough to dangle carrots to different people to grab power. Essentially that's how communism works. As George Orwell put it, all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others. Once they're in, only then do those who elected them realise they are still the downtrodden, it's just a different group of leaders.
I'm not saying the Tories are any better in that respect - they still have winners and losers. But their policies don't take the country as a whole to bankruptcy. Anyone who doubts what McDonell and co would achieve only needs to look at Jezzer's model state of Venezuala.
Whatever our mixed views on Brexit, those divisions will create a nightmare if they are able to exploit it. And they will try.
What I fear is that in the shorter term the politics of greed might get them elected for at least a single term. They are clever enough to dangle carrots to different people to grab power. Essentially that's how communism works. As George Orwell put it, all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others. Once they're in, only then do those who elected them realise they are still the downtrodden, it's just a different group of leaders.
I'm not saying the Tories are any better in that respect - they still have winners and losers. But their policies don't take the country as a whole to bankruptcy. Anyone who doubts what McDonell and co would achieve only needs to look at Jezzer's model state of Venezuala.
Whatever our mixed views on Brexit, those divisions will create a nightmare if they are able to exploit it. And they will try.
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I always said that Canada would be the only place I'd consider emigrating to - now where's that form? Someone needs to show these people who are considering voting for this lot film of what happened before when Derek Hatton and his lot were causing havoc. The amount of money that Labour is going to give us is amazing - where's it coming from? What about people who work hard to earn their money, are they to be penalised if they earn over a certain amount? I heard an interviewer this morning say that after Keir Starmer's speech yesterday he went outside to see if Labour supporters could explain to him what Labour's Brexit policy is. He said that all he got was a lot of errs and ums. Nobody seemed to know. Nightmare!
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After watching Dianne Abbott on Newsnight last evening, it's almost worth electing them for the comedy value.
It was priceless.
She's certainly a one off, that's for sure.
The easiest job in politics is being in opposition.
All you have to do is say what you intend to do.
Considering this is the worst Tory government in memory, Labour should be streets ahead, but they are not.
I wonder why ?
It was priceless.
She's certainly a one off, that's for sure.
The easiest job in politics is being in opposition.
All you have to do is say what you intend to do.
Considering this is the worst Tory government in memory, Labour should be streets ahead, but they are not.
I wonder why ?
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I think we should all be worried about a party which has two terrorist sympathisers leading its party.
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So Comrade Corbyn says if they get into power they are going to plough more money into......
The health service
Education
The railways
The police etc etc..
Plus the usual spin. What he and his cronies failed to mention was where all this money was going to come from.
The health service
Education
The railways
The police etc etc..
Plus the usual spin. What he and his cronies failed to mention was where all this money was going to come from.
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screwy
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Taxing the rich,Business,Borrowing,all things that will see less Revenue because the rich,etc will just leave/ find more ways to avoid paying.will just end up borrowing more and increase taxes in general.Diane Abbot school of economics.
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Mervyn and Trish
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The problem with borrowing (do they not remember?) is that sooner or later you have to pay it back. Inevitably after a term or two the wheel spins, the Tories get back in, and start to sort it out. Then you get a period of austerity and they start moaning about the nasty party. Just look at what's happening in Greece. Austerity plus. Don't the brilliant Labour bean counters get it?
Oh no I forgot. Dianne Abbot. Borrow ten trillion. Plus compound interest at 5% for five years. That comes to....... ummm......is it £4?
Oh no I forgot. Dianne Abbot. Borrow ten trillion. Plus compound interest at 5% for five years. That comes to....... ummm......is it £4?
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In a nutshell Sir MervMervyn and Trish wrote: 27 Sep 2018, 10:32The problem with borrowing (do they not remember?) is that sooner or later you have to pay it back. Inevitably after a term or two the wheel spins, the Tories get back in, and start to sort it out. Then you get a period of austerity and they start moaning about the nasty party. Just look at what's happening in Greece. Austerity plus. Don't the brilliant Labour bean counters get it?
Oh no I forgot. Dianne Abbot. Borrow ten trillion. Plus compound interest at 5% for five years. That comes to....... ummm......is it £4?
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screwy
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I remember many years ago,late 60's visiting my girlfriend. I was telling her dad that i had watched the war film ' Battle for Anzio ' and how the Yanks beat the Germans. He huffed and puffed, went red in the face and explained to me that he was there and how the Brits handed Anzio to the Yanks who lost it and we had to go and win it back. Bit like Labour taking control, screwing it up and the Tories having to get it back on some sort of even keel.
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The Labour party will promise anything to get in power. Remember their vow to abolish university fees, sure to appeal to the younger generation and their commitment to increasing benefit to 'the vulnerable in society'. What they don't tell you is how they are going to finance it and what the repercussions will be. It's all empty rhetoric but sadly, stick a red rosette on a donkey and some will vote for it.
Nobody likes austerity but we have to live within our means, something the idealists in the Labour party have yet to understand. The only part of Corbyn's speech I agreed with was the disparity in investment in different parts of the country, especially in London and the south east.
Never mind I'll go and feed my ferrets!!!
Nobody likes austerity but we have to live within our means, something the idealists in the Labour party have yet to understand. The only part of Corbyn's speech I agreed with was the disparity in investment in different parts of the country, especially in London and the south east.
Never mind I'll go and feed my ferrets!!!
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It always irritated me when they came up to Blackpool for their party conferences how disparaging they were about the place and the people. As one of the most deprived areas in the country what could they expect but considering this was supposed to be the party of the working classes looking after the 'most vulnerable' in society they couldn't wait to get back to London, taking with them their fine clothes and expensive tastes.
Having witnessed them at first hand I would never vote Labour and their fine words are nothing but hypocrisy.
Having witnessed them at first hand I would never vote Labour and their fine words are nothing but hypocrisy.
I was taught to be cautious