Brexit

[Jack Staff]

Hooray, we are there at last !!!!!!

When the next election /and/or referendum comes, vote which ever way you like.

If you want to vote for a party that has vowed to stop Brexit, then fine, please do it.

That is you democratic right.

This will more than likely be in 2022 so be patient

OMG!! I was thinking the next election would be called in a couple of weeks time, but 20:22? I will be in the middle of my supper then!

Not as good as your other jokes but quite good Jack.

Are you talking "crackers"again Jack?

I think it might be gammon on the menu tonight.

[Stephen]

It's his democratic right for a late supper and then indigestion from humble pie

[Onelife]

Having supper at 20:22 obviously isn't good for you …. it makes one grumpy.

.......l'll mention this to my wife...Thanks mob

[Onelife]

On the subject of food l have now started to stock my garage shelves with tinned produce...be prepared is my motto.

[Stephen]

On the subject of food l have now started to stock my garage shelves with tinned produce...be prepared is my motto.

Pedigree........chum!

[Onelife]

On the subject of food l have now started to stock my garage shelves with tinned produce...be prepared is my motto.

Pedigree........chum!

Tastes alright in a curry......you'd love Birmingham

[Jack Staff]

How about a Brexit special then, I don't believe it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kIU93qaFag

[Onelife]

How about a Brexit special then, I don't believe it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kIU93qaFag

.........very funny Jack

[barney]

How about a Brexit special then, I don't believe it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kIU93qaFag

That was actually really funny and very , very true.

[johnds]

So - can anybody now explain the Labour Party's policy on Brexit this afternoon. try re-arranging the following words. On, fence, sitting

[barney]

So - can anybody now explain the Labour Party's policy on Brexit this afternoon. try re-arranging the following words. On, fence, sitting

They are in a tricky position John.
They need to placate their membership while not alienating their core voters.
I read that 80% of the Labour members want a new referendum while 60% of Labour constituancies voted to leave.
Obviously they cannot win an election solely on their members so they are between a rock and a hard place.

I've studied what Labour are proposing and there is little chance of the EU accepting it anyway.
They want to remain in a customs union while doing individual deals with others.
'Four Freedoms' ????
'Cherry Picking' ????

The IEA proposal wheeled out today seems a pretty good compromise with the EU
I agree with them that we started from the wrong place.
I've said that all along.
A large economy like ours should have dozens of deals pretty well wrapped up by now.
For a major economy, we have just rolled over and got our just deserts from the EU.
Had we immediately started making plans for WTO terms and making deals with others, the EU would have taken us much more seriously.
It has been very badly handled.

[towny44]

I see no mention in the attached of any WTO member having a veto.

Perhaps you should read the WTO website then.

"Reaching decisions by consensus among some 150 members can be difficult. Its main advantage is that decisions made this way are more acceptable to all members. And despite the difficulty, some remarkable agreements have been reached. Nevertheless, proposals for the creation of a smaller executive body — perhaps like a board of directors each representing different groups of countries — are heard periodically. But for now, the WTO is a member-driven, consensus-based organization. "

There is no mention in that of any country having a veto over another's trade deals, and Spain is in the EU and Argentina wouldn't want a trade deal with us anyway, so not really an issue.

[Jack Staff]

I see no mention in the attached of any WTO member having a veto.

Perhaps you should read the WTO website then.

"Reaching decisions by consensus among some 150 members can be difficult. Its main advantage is that decisions made this way are more acceptable to all members. And despite the difficulty, some remarkable agreements have been reached. Nevertheless, proposals for the creation of a smaller executive body — perhaps like a board of directors each representing different groups of countries — are heard periodically. But for now, the WTO is a member-driven, consensus-based organization. "

There is no mention in that of any country having a veto over another's trade deals,

"Reaching decisions by consensus ..."

and Spain is in the EU and Argentina wouldn't want a trade deal with us anyway, so not really an issue.

"Reaching decisions by consensus ..."

[oldbluefox]

A nice little earner on top of your salary.............

[Jack Staff]

A nice little earner on top of your salary.............

Here's a fun little game we can all play,

In Google, type any Brexiter name followed by expenses and see what comes up.

[oldbluefox]

Not interested in your fun little games Jack. All expenses for whoever they are, should be accountable. As one who had to account for every penny of their expenses sheet with receipts (and often subsidised out of my own pocket) there should be nobody with snouts in the trough either in public or private life.
My post was not about anybody receiving expenses per se but the non-accountability of it all. Obviously the EU courts think it is acceptable. It seems you do too. I don't.

[Ray Scully]

My experience was that those at the top were the least accountable.

[Jack Staff]

Not interested in your fun little games Jack.

You should be, it's very interesting.

All expenses for whoever they are, should be accountable.

The title of your article was "EU judges spare MEPs' blushes over secretive expenses"

As one who had to account for every penny of their expenses sheet with receipts (and often subsidised out of my own pocket) there should be nobody with snouts in the trough either in public or private life.

Obviously.

My post was not about anybody receiving expenses per se but the non-accountability of it all. Obviously the EU courts think it is acceptable. It seems you do too. I don't.

I think your use of the words "EU courts" points to the notion that your statement of "non-accountability" is wrong.

[oldbluefox]

"there is no need to provide receipts or return unspent cash from the payment, which costs taxpayers across the EU an estimated £35.8 million a year".

So, to whom are the MEPs accountable for their expenses claims? Do I presume you can put in a claim for £3937 which will be paid no questions asked?

[johnds]

"Brexit is over, bar the voting."

If you truly believe that Jack there is obviously no point in your wasting further time to try to educate us.

[oldbluefox]

My experience was that those at the top were the least accountable.

I agree. ECJ judges, Barnier, Juncker, Tusk just to mention a few. How else would they afford their monthly restock of wine in Strasbourg?

[oldbluefox]

"Brexit is over, bar the voting."

If you truly believe that Jack there is obviously no point in your wasting further time to try to educate us.
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With the Labour party dithering, it looks like Jack will have to nail his little blue flag to the LibDem or Green mast as they only ones committed to a second referendum. If the Remainers are as confident and as committed as Jack says they are Gina Miller and the LibDems could shortly be in power.

[Ray Scully]

My experience was that those at the top were the least accountable.

I agree. ECJ judges, Barnier, Juncker, Tusk just to mention a few. How else would they afford their monthly restock of wine in Strasbourg?

Well I never.

[oldbluefox]

My experience was that those at the top were the least accountable.

I agree. ECJ judges, Barnier, Juncker, Tusk just to mention a few. How else would they afford their monthly restock of wine in Strasbourg?

Well I never.

[Jack Staff]

My experience was that those at the top were the least accountable.

I agree. ECJ judges, Barnier, Juncker, Tusk just to mention a few. How else would they afford their monthly restock of wine in Strasbourg?

Well I never.

At least Barnier, Juncker and Tusk are elected and the judges are appointed by common accord of the governments of the member states, unlike the unelected bureaucrats of the WTO.