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Brexit
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Arron Banks eh?
Ticski, Tocski,
Yeah, yeah, I know, clutching at straws? We'll see.
Ticski, Tocski,
Yeah, yeah, I know, clutching at straws? We'll see.
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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towny44
- Deputy Captain

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Re: Brexit
It seems the currency market is factoring in a brexit deal Jack, the pound has jumped up quite a bit over the last 2 days, do you have any comments?Jack Staff wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 17:21Arron Banks eh?
Ticski, Tocski,
Yeah, yeah, I know, clutching at straws? We'll see.
John
Trainee Pensioner since 2000
Trainee Pensioner since 2000
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Jack Staff
- First Officer

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Re: Brexit
Justine Greening - "Brexit is like swapping £10 for €5 & calling it a deal!”towny44 wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 17:24It seems the currency market is factoring in a brexit deal Jack, the pound has jumped up quite a bit over the last 2 days, do you have any comments?Jack Staff wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 17:21Arron Banks eh?
Ticski, Tocski,
Yeah, yeah, I know, clutching at straws? We'll see.
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Gill W
- Senior First Officer

- Posts: 4897
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- Location: Kent
Re: Brexit
I know you only deal in facts Barney. Is it a fact that the deal is done? I only ask because later reports today say that EU and U.K. are now playing down that any deal had been struck.barney wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 15:01https://www.politico.eu/article/portugu ... exit-deal/
https://www.politico.eu/article/spanish ... exit-deal/
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... ion-talks/
But, but, but ……….
All of a sudden, the 'tiny' little UK who cannot stand on it's own two feet seems somewhat more important.
Meanwhile, back in the real world
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... -services/
Deal or no deal the EU knows that it cannot continue to exist without the City of London.
Anyway, from what I read, it seems that this was an ‘equivalence’ deal rather than the passporting we have now. In other words worse than we have now.
Gill
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Gill W
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Re: Brexit
Bit quiet on here today. You'd think that nobody wants to talk about Arron Banks!Jack Staff wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 17:21Arron Banks eh?
Ticski, Tocski,
Yeah, yeah, I know, clutching at straws? We'll see.
Gill
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towny44
- Deputy Captain

- Posts: 9670
- Joined: January 2013
- Location: Huddersfield
Re: Brexit
If true it might be against current rules, but TBH it hardly matters where the money came from since Leave.eu was hardly mainstream during the referendum. Although I imagine Jack won't agree.Gill W wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 16:55Bit quiet on here today. You'd think that nobody wants to talk about Arron Banks!Jack Staff wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 17:21Arron Banks eh?
Ticski, Tocski,
Yeah, yeah, I know, clutching at straws? We'll see.
John
Trainee Pensioner since 2000
Trainee Pensioner since 2000
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Jack Staff
- First Officer

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Re: Brexit
The Arron Banks story has nothing to do with Remain and Leave. It is about alleged criminality. Let us all agree that we are against that.towny44 wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 17:19If true it might be against current rules, but TBH it hardly matters where the money came from since Leave.eu was hardly mainstream during the referendum. Although I imagine Jack won't agree.Gill W wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 16:55Bit quiet on here today. You'd think that nobody wants to talk about Arron Banks!Jack Staff wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 17:21Arron Banks eh?
Ticski, Tocski,
Yeah, yeah, I know, clutching at straws? We'll see.
And anyway, people spend millions on political campaigns for a laugh with no thought of influencing how voters decide.
Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
If it upsets you Jack, then I think I might have to support criminality.Jack Staff wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 17:41The Arron Banks story has nothing to do with Remain and Leave. It is about alleged criminality. Let us all agree that we are against that.towny44 wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 17:19If true it might be against current rules, but TBH it hardly matters where the money came from since Leave.eu was hardly mainstream during the referendum. Although I imagine Jack won't agree.Gill W wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 16:55Bit quiet on here today. You'd think that nobody wants to talk about Arron Banks!Jack Staff wrote: 01 Nov 2018, 17:21Arron Banks eh?
Ticski, Tocski,
Yeah, yeah, I know, clutching at straws? We'll see.
And anyway, people spend millions on political campaigns for a laugh with no thought of influencing how voters decide.
John
Trainee Pensioner since 2000
Trainee Pensioner since 2000
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Jack Staff
- First Officer

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Re: Brexit
Stands to reason. Criminality and Brexit go hand in hand.towny44 wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 19:31If it upsets you Jack, then I think I might have to support criminality.Jack Staff wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 17:41The Arron Banks story has nothing to do with Remain and Leave. It is about alleged criminality. Let us all agree that we are against that.towny44 wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 17:19If true it might be against current rules, but TBH it hardly matters where the money came from since Leave.eu was hardly mainstream during the referendum. Although I imagine Jack won't agree.Gill W wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 16:55
Bit quiet on here today. You'd think that nobody wants to talk about Arron Banks!
And anyway, people spend millions on political campaigns for a laugh with no thought of influencing how voters decide.![]()
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Testiculi ad Brexitum. Venceremos.
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Onelife
- Captain

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Re: Brexit
What you can be sure about is that any donation in the millions will have had some form of criminality attached to it.....There is no such thing as clean money where influence is concerned.
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johnds
- Second Officer

- Posts: 331
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- Location: Chorley
Re: Brexit
You mean like George Sorros the remain supporterJack Staff wrote: 02 Nov 2018, 17:41And anyway, people spend millions on political campaigns for a laugh with no thought of influencing how voters decide.
We have interesting conceptsof justice in the UK
Firstly once an investigation has taken place you need to be charged which is up to the CPS
Secondly you are innocent until proven guilty
So let justice run its course before leaping to conclusions
John
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oldbluefox
- Ex Team Member
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Re: Brexit
Not surprising the EC chose to ignore the £9million of our money spent by David Cameron on his pro Remain leaflet.
I was taught to be cautious
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
Ah but, that would definitely be honest money, the illegal earnings will have been spirited away in some offshore tax haven or, in the case of BBC presenters, in "personal services companies".oldbluefox wrote: 03 Nov 2018, 09:17Not surprising the EC chose to ignore the £9million of our money spent by David Cameron on his pro Remain leaflet.
John
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johnds
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Re: Brexit
There is no allegation of illegal earnings in relation to thistowny44 wrote: 03 Nov 2018, 09:59Ah but, that would definitely be honest money, the illegal earnings will have been spirited away in some offshore tax haven or, in the case of BBC presenters, in "personal services companies".oldbluefox wrote: 03 Nov 2018, 09:17Not surprising the EC chose to ignore the £9million of our money spent by David Cameron on his pro Remain leaflet.
John
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screwy
- Senior First Officer

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Re: Brexit
It didn't matter to me where the money came from, i had decided i wanted out long before the referendum.
If a criminal act has been commited and there is a find of guilt, then punishment should follow and rightly so.
If a criminal act has been commited and there is a find of guilt, then punishment should follow and rightly so.
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barney
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- Location: Instow Devon
Re: Brexit
I think that Banks may be in a bit of trouble here.
Nothing to do with Russia. That's a load of old rubbish that keeps getting recycled.
He has a myriad of companies, many offshore.
IF it's proven that any of these off shore companies contributed to his scheme, the he will fall foul of the law.
them's the rules.
It may well be his money, but it cannot be usesd
Nothing to do with Russia. That's a load of old rubbish that keeps getting recycled.
He has a myriad of companies, many offshore.
IF it's proven that any of these off shore companies contributed to his scheme, the he will fall foul of the law.
them's the rules.
It may well be his money, but it cannot be usesd
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
Why wouldn't he be allowed to recycle the money back to himself in the UK and then donate it to whoever he wants?barney wrote: 03 Nov 2018, 12:41I think that Banks may be in a bit of trouble here.
Nothing to do with Russia. That's a load of old rubbish that keeps getting recycled.
He has a myriad of companies, many offshore.
IF it's proven that any of these off shore companies contributed to his scheme, the he will fall foul of the law.
them's the rules.
It may well be his money, but it cannot be usesd
John
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barney
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Re: Brexit
I believe that he could John, and if that's what he did, then there is no problem.
When questioned by the select committee, one of the MPs asked him straight out where the money came from and he said that it was his money.
She said, that this wasn't the question.
There is no dispute that it's his money, but where did it come from?
He replied that it was his personal money.
It's raising suspicion because they don't think that his companies had that amount of money sloshing about in them.
All will come out in the end.
It's all slightly irrelevant to the outcome of the vote, but it will give the anti democrats a few more straws to clutch at.
tick tock.
Just over four months
When questioned by the select committee, one of the MPs asked him straight out where the money came from and he said that it was his money.
She said, that this wasn't the question.
There is no dispute that it's his money, but where did it come from?
He replied that it was his personal money.
It's raising suspicion because they don't think that his companies had that amount of money sloshing about in them.
All will come out in the end.
It's all slightly irrelevant to the outcome of the vote, but it will give the anti democrats a few more straws to clutch at.
tick tock.
Just over four months
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barney
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Re: Brexit
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... -agreement
Jesus H Christ, this Varadkar has some brass neck doesn't he?
He is the one who has made no effort to broker a deal, preferring to leave it to Barnier to speak for Ireland.
The "four freedoms" overrule everything !
Now the penny has finally dropped that Ireland will be completely bug*ered economically without an agreement, he's claiming foul and trying to blame the UK.
Brexit has undermined the GFA ? That is what is known as democracy old chap.
He went on to reiterate his pledge that there would be no return to a hard border in Ireland whatever the outcome of Brexit negotiations, currently on a knife-edge.
So what's the problem then Leo ?
I'd say that it's the EU's insistence on a hard border that has undermined the GFA.
The UK has said from the get go that we will not be putting up a hard border.
The EU has hung Ireland out to dry in a effort to over throw the Brexit decision and they have just realised it.
I'd suggest that Leo reigns it in a bit if he is expecting free passage across our country to reach his beloved EU with their exports.
Jesus H Christ, this Varadkar has some brass neck doesn't he?
He is the one who has made no effort to broker a deal, preferring to leave it to Barnier to speak for Ireland.
The "four freedoms" overrule everything !
Now the penny has finally dropped that Ireland will be completely bug*ered economically without an agreement, he's claiming foul and trying to blame the UK.
Brexit has undermined the GFA ? That is what is known as democracy old chap.
He went on to reiterate his pledge that there would be no return to a hard border in Ireland whatever the outcome of Brexit negotiations, currently on a knife-edge.
So what's the problem then Leo ?
I'd say that it's the EU's insistence on a hard border that has undermined the GFA.
The UK has said from the get go that we will not be putting up a hard border.
The EU has hung Ireland out to dry in a effort to over throw the Brexit decision and they have just realised it.
I'd suggest that Leo reigns it in a bit if he is expecting free passage across our country to reach his beloved EU with their exports.
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barney
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Re: Brexit
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Land.html
Do you live in Leave Land or Remain Land ?
41 million live in Leave Land
21 million live in Remain Land so remain logic dictates that they are clearly the majority.
Do you live in Leave Land or Remain Land ?
41 million live in Leave Land
21 million live in Remain Land so remain logic dictates that they are clearly the majority.
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Gill W
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Re: Brexit
Meanwhile back in the real world, even Arron Banks thinks, if he had his time again, we should Remain.
Gill
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
In the real world he couldn't have his time again.Gill W wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 09:21Meanwhile back in the real world, even Arron Banks thinks, if he had his time again, we should Remain.
I was taught to be cautious
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Jack Staff
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Re: Brexit
Correct. Prisoners are not allowed to vote.oldbluefox wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 09:48In the real world he couldn't have his time again.Gill W wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 09:21Meanwhile back in the real world, even Arron Banks thinks, if he had his time again, we should Remain.![]()
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
You are bitter person Jack, I do hope your halo never slips and you end up joining the rest of the partly flawed populace.Jack Staff wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 10:07Correct. Prisoners are not allowed to vote.oldbluefox wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 09:48In the real world he couldn't have his time again.Gill W wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 09:21Meanwhile back in the real world, even Arron Banks thinks, if he had his time again, we should Remain.![]()
John
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barney
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Re: Brexit
Selective quoting there Gill.Gill W wrote: 05 Nov 2018, 09:21Meanwhile back in the real world, even Arron Banks thinks, if he had his time again, we should Remain.
The end of the sentence was because of the pigs ear that May has made of the whole thing.
The final agreement is not really going to be Brexit is it?
I watched his interview and to be honest I thought that Marr was really bad in this one.
The BBC wheeled Banks out to make a fool of him and it turned out the other way.
I think Marr was shocked by how candid he was and turned quite aggressive in the end.
He was so emphatic with his answers that the truth must out.
A. he is telling the truth.
B. he lied live on national TV and will be found out.
He is more slippery than a bucket of eels but he is either telling the truth or not.
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