Brexit

[Mervyn and Trish]

So, that's that then.

All sorted .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... orary.html

If that turns out it really is progress, since Macron was a major block to any move forward.

If, as has been reported previously, Angela M, is also willing to be helpful there may be a way ahead. All that is really needed is that sort of assurance and the opposition to TM's deal will evaporate.

[Mervyn and Trish]

As you will see from previous replies, I voted Conservative, in a rabidly Leave area - but the only way I could make my decision was to leave Brexit out of my deliberations

So does this and your other reply mean you have an MP voting against the express wish of their constituents and against the manifesto pledge they lined up behind?

[barney]

As you will see from previous replies, I voted Conservative, in a rabidly Leave area - but the only way I could make my decision was to leave Brexit out of my deliberations

So does this and your other reply mean you have an MP voting against the express wish of their constituents and against the manifesto pledge they lined up behind?

Of course it does Merv.

Most of the most vocal Tory Remainers represent areas that voted leave.

[Gill W]

We had Anne Widdy for 23 years and she was an excellent constituency MP.
Replaced by Helen Grant who's a bit of a wet rag who has had her 'fingers in the till' ref expenses.

A good mate of mine is MP for Sittingbourne & Swale.

I do like Tracey Crouch as well, and Rehman Chishti seems ok.

I don't know much about the chap down here in North Devon, but know he was very vocal when Babcock pulled out of Appledore shipyard.
They decided to close it, irrespective of work.
Still, they are a private company and up to them I suppose.

Rehman Chishti is my MP. He's a leaver, but in Gillingham what do you expect. As I put Brexit aside for my vote, I'm still happy to have him as my MP as I believe he's a good egg.

[Gill W]

As you will see from previous replies, I voted Conservative, in a rabidly Leave area - but the only way I could make my decision was to leave Brexit out of my deliberations

So does this and your other reply mean you have an MP voting against the express wish of their constituents and against the manifesto pledge they lined up behind?

As you will see from previous replies, I voted Conservative, in a rabidly Leave area - but the only way I could make my decision was to leave Brexit out of my deliberations

So does this and your other reply mean you have an MP voting against the express wish of their constituents and against the manifesto pledge they lined up behind?

Of course it does Merv.

Most of the most vocal Tory Remainers represent areas that voted leave.

You are both incorrect.

Rehman Chishti is a Leaver. He voted against the deal - that appears to be what he has the problem with - as do many Leavers, eh Barney?

[david63]

Rehman Chishti is a Leaver. He voted against the deal

Then he should be ashamed of himself and if he was my MP I certainly would never vote for him in the future.

He is a lever, the official party line is leave so why is he going against everything?

[Gill W]

Only yesterday you were praising Jacob Rees Mogg, a man who is hell bent on leaving the EU, yet voted against the deal.

The Conservatives are rife with ERG types who are doing everything they can to thwart Mays deal. Why not have a rant about them?

Why single out one non ERG MP? Oh, yes, it's probably because I think he's basically a good egg

[towny44]

Only yesterday you were praising Jacob Rees Mogg, a man who is hell bent on leaving the EU, yet voted against the deal.

The Conservatives are rife with ERG types who are doing everything they can to thwart Mays deal. Why not have a rant about them?

Why single out one non ERG MP? Oh, yes, it's probably because I think he's basically a good egg

Gill what is your problem? On here we are all well aware of the problems that the ERG are causing with the brexit negotiations, but ranting about them is rather pointless since they are never going to change until the very last minute, it's a toss up who blinks first the EU or the ERG. As for the comments made about your MP, surely you must realise that your voting for a rabid leaver MP has rather amused some of the brexit clan on here, and we can't resist poking a little friendly fun at you

[Gill W]

I thought emojis were supposed to be employed when it was meant to be a joke?

The absence of emojis leads me to believe the comments are serious.

Rehman Chishti isn’t a rabid Brexiter either. He’s a dencent MP, who does good work in the local community, which is the reason I voted for him.

Sometimes, not everything is about Brexit. But I doubt if anybody will bother to understand this, given the level of Brexit obsession in these parts.

[towny44]

Gill, I think very few comments on here are truly serious, other than the underlying and unchangeable view of both leavers and remainers. Perhaps if you tried not to be so concerned about the train crash you envisage brexit will cause, you might see the lighter side of most of the brexiteer posts.

[Golden Princess]

Lighter side? Is that how you see yourselves? Caribbean was good though, wasnt it?

[towny44]

Lighter side? Is that how you see yourselves? Caribbean was good though, wasnt it?

It was GP were you also on N901 and did we bump into you?

[Gill W]

Gill, I think very few comments on here are truly serious, other than the underlying and unchangeable view of both leavers and remainers. Perhaps if you tried not to be so concerned about the train crash you envisage brexit will cause, you might see the lighter side of most of the brexiteer posts.

This, from man who gets offended if anybody asks a question about his posts, because he thinks his views aren’t being respected.

[Onelife]

If only everyone were as nice as me.......chocolates snyone?

[towny44]

Gill, I think very few comments on here are truly serious, other than the underlying and unchangeable view of both leavers and remainers. Perhaps if you tried not to be so concerned about the train crash you envisage brexit will cause, you might see the lighter side of most of the brexiteer posts.

This, from man who gets offended if anybody asks a question about his posts, because he thinks his views aren’t being respected.

I am trying to be conciliatory here, and yes I have expressed frustration that some remainers don't seem prepared to accept that any leave view is valid, whereas I have been prepared to understand the remainers views.
But that's not taking offence or even umbrage maybe just a little mild annoyance that I have to prove that leaving the EU will have economic benefits before my ideal of the freedom from the rules, regulations the free trade barriers and the high unemployment rates of the poorer states that the Euro has caused can ever be considered as valid reasons for leaving.
In the circumstances I feel I have been exceptionally tolerant.

[Manoverboard]

To be tolerant like wot you are requires one to have a sense of humour … just saying

[Stephen]

If only everyone were as nice as me.......chocolates snyone?

No thanks, I'm particular what goes in my stomach

[Gill W]

Gill, I think very few comments on here are truly serious, other than the underlying and unchangeable view of both leavers and remainers. Perhaps if you tried not to be so concerned about the train crash you envisage brexit will cause, you might see the lighter side of most of the brexiteer posts.

This, from man who gets offended if anybody asks a question about his posts, because he thinks his views aren’t being respected.

I am trying to be conciliatory here, and yes I have expressed frustration that some remainers don't seem prepared to accept that any leave view is valid, whereas I have been prepared to understand the remainers views.
But that's not taking offence or even umbrage maybe just a little mild annoyance that I have to prove that leaving the EU will have economic benefits before my ideal of the freedom from the rules, regulations the free trade barriers and the high unemployment rates of the poorer states that the Euro has caused can ever be considered as valid reasons for leaving.
In the circumstances I feel I have been exceptionally tolerant.

I see posts on a daily basis with inflammatory terms that refer to a group I identify with, with no indication that it is meant as a joke and have been personally referred to as a saboteur, again with no indication that it was a jocular comment. Under the circumstances, I also feel I have been exceptionally tolerant. Most people would have walked away - but I intend to see how it all pans out, after 29th March.

[Onelife]

If only everyone were as nice as me.......chocolates snyone?

No thanks, I'm particular what goes in my stomach

You've never struck me as a man who enjoys the finer things in life......just saying

[Stephen]

I wouldn't class Gastroenteritis as one of the finer things in life ....just saying

[Mervyn and Trish]

I am not mocking anyone on here (I have said before I accept others opinions even if I do not agree with them), but nor am I joking.

If Brexit is a disaster it will not be because we voted for it, but because some MPs within our elected parliament, in which both main parties stood on a mandate of getting Brexit done, have since done everything In their power to obstruct. I apply that to both Remainer MPs trying to scrap the whole thing and Leaver MPs not supporting the government line because they think they can do better.

I wrongly assumed yours was one of the former Gill. It seems they're maybe one of the latter. Both equally culpable. Well maybe they can, but maybe they can't. You've reminded us Gill that the EU says the deal is not open for renegotiation. I hope you'll tell your MP that if you bump into them and encourage them to get behind the PM.

My MP is personally a Remainer, but has respected their voters wishes and voted for the deal. That I respect.

[Jack Staff]

But you knew what you were voting for.
You had the majority.
Perhaps it just wasn't a good idea?

[towny44]

But you knew what you were voting for.
You had the majority.
Perhaps it just wasn't a good idea?

It was a great idea badly executed.

[Stephen]

But you knew what you were voting for.
You had the majority.
Perhaps it just wasn't a good idea?

Say no more

[Jack Staff]

But you knew what you were voting for.
You had the majority.
Perhaps it just wasn't a good idea?

Say no more

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