Brexit

[Jack Staff]

This is extraordinary.
The TUC and the CBI are united in their joint intervention against Theresa May's reckless Brexit approach.
Any Prime Minister concerned about the national interest would stop and listen.
{David Lammy}

[Ray Scully]

What is very certain is the death knell of the Tory party. irrespective of a crashing out or a soft Brexit being agreed

[Jack Staff]

What is very certain is the death knell of the Tory party. irrespective of a crashing out or a soft Brexit being agreed

Very much so. Even if they revoke.
The upcoming generations have seen the Conservatives want to take away the rights and freedoms that we have enjoyed.
Their future voters. The Torys are toast.

[barney]

Agree with that chaps. A Labour government is a shoe in now no matter what happens. They might not get a majority though and will lure the SNP to government in Westminster. Hopefully they will open the purse strings and start spending. Future generations can pick up the tab.

[towny44]

What is very certain is the death knell of the Tory party. irrespective of a crashing out or a soft Brexit being agreed

Very much so. Even if they revoke.
The upcoming generations have seen the Conservatives want to take away the rights and freedoms that we have enjoyed.
Their future voters. The Torys are toast.

If that proves true Jack, then God help us all if Jeremy and McDonnell's Labour party take charge of the country.

[Jack Staff]

If that proves true Jack, then God help us all if Jeremy and McDonnell's Labour party take charge of the country.

With you there John!
Whilst the Conservatives and Labour are in the same lifeboat of British politics, Labour have the advantage of they only really need a change of leadership to become electable.
Other than that we are back to what I was describing some months ago, a government of national unity.

[Onelife]

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I have to say I felt some sympathy for Anna Sudbury who has just said she is too frightened go home… due apparently to the fear/backlash from those who believe she is disregarding their right to have their voice heard…

Perhaps a night on the streets will give her some appreciation of why so many people are feeling bitter and betrayed.
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I think a cliff edge next week will ensure that a night on the street will not be a happy experience. From a pharmacy professional, I understand that antidepressants far outway any other drugs dispensed in the UK. I am not one who would be prepared to gamble with the lack of such drugs and the effect it would have on peoples mental health, both leavers and remainers
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Hi Ray… a quick google search suggests the most commonly used medication in the UK relates to cardiovascular conditions? Having pharmaceutical connections you of all must know the consequences of promoting an untested argument of a "no deal Brexit" leading to shortfalls in medicine availability.

What will clearly hasten this scenario is Project Fear encouraging people to stockpile medication.

[Onelife]

Addressing MPs, Speaker John Bercow said: "None of you is a traitor - all of you are doing your best.


Say's he a totally bias traitor in my opinion.


“all of you are doing your best”.

Even Remainers on this forum will struggle with that one I would suggest?

[barney]

What is very certain is the death knell of the Tory party. irrespective of a crashing out or a soft Brexit being agreed

Very much so. Even if they revoke.
The upcoming generations have seen the Conservatives want to take away the rights and freedoms that we have enjoyed.
Their future voters. The Torys are toast.

If that proves true Jack, then God help us all if Jeremy and McDonnell's Labour party take charge of the country.

You're missing the point John. Our generation can reap the rewards of Corbyns overspending and we'll all be pushing up daisies before the bill comes in. If the youngsters vote him in, bring it on, I say.

[towny44]

Very much so. Even if they revoke.
The upcoming generations have seen the Conservatives want to take away the rights and freedoms that we have enjoyed.
Their future voters. The Torys are toast.

If that proves true Jack, then God help us all if Jeremy and McDonnell's Labour party take charge of the country.

You're missing the point John. Our generation can reap the rewards of Corbyns overspending and we'll all be pushing up daisies before the bill comes in. If the youngsters vote him in, bring it on, I say.

You're becoming a real cynic Barney, the sooner Gillingham reach 50 point safety the better.

[Gill W]

Extension until ( at least) 12th April.

Looks like the EU took back control and sorted out a plan for us

[towny44]

Extension until ( at least) 12th April.

Looks like the EU took back control and sorted out a plan for us

They will need to be b****y good if they intend sorting it out in 2 weeks, looks as though they expect us to revoke A50 to avoid a no deal exit. Now that will be interesting.

[Jack Staff]

They will need to be b****y good if they intend sorting it out in 2 weeks, looks as though they expect us to revoke A50 to avoid a no deal exit. Now that will be interesting.

The petition has just gone past 2 million.
I think the interesting thing about revoking A50 will be celebrations as my country takes back control!

[johnds]

They will need to be b****y good if they intend sorting it out in 2 weeks, looks as though they expect us to revoke A50 to avoid a no deal exit. Now that will be interesting.

The petition has just gone past 2 million.
I think the interesting thing about revoking A50 will be celebrations as my country takes back control!

Just another 15.4 million required then

[barney]

If that proves true Jack, then God help us all if Jeremy and McDonnell's Labour party take charge of the country.

You're missing the point John. Our generation can reap the rewards of Corbyns overspending and we'll all be pushing up daisies before the bill comes in. If the youngsters vote him in, bring it on, I say.

You're becoming a real cynic Barney, the sooner Gillingham reach 50 point safety the better.

Have you had a look at the league one table John ? 50 won't be enough this season. 12th downwards are in relegation trouble

[towny44]

You're missing the point John. Our generation can reap the rewards of Corbyns overspending and we'll all be pushing up daisies before the bill comes in. If the youngsters vote him in, bring it on, I say.

You're becoming a real cynic Barney, the sooner Gillingham reach 50 point safety the better.

Have you had a look at the league one table John ? 50 won't be enough this season. 12th downwards are in relegation trouble

Try not to worry Barney, at least you have several teams below you who need to perform better than you to overtake you, we are in danger of being lapped by City and Liverpool.

[Manoverboard]

Mr Tusk added that the atmosphere was "much better than I had expected" among EU leaders in discussions and he was now "much more realistic".

Meanwhile, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said the legally-binding reassurances over the controversial backstop part of the withdrawal deal which were agreed in Strasbourg last week have now been endorsed.

"There is no more than we can give," he added.

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Will that satisfy the rebels and allow the deal to go through ?


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[screwy]

And so the brinksmanship goes on....pity they didn’t endorse it when first asked...

[Onelife]

“This” For the first time there was a sign of disunity and then they gave a concession to Britain which they were not intending to give earlier in the day.
“This came about, it seems, because suddenly they took seriously the possibility of Britain exiting with no deal - a rumour that the Ministry of Defence was preparing for a no deal.

“It just makes you wonder whether over the last 1,000 days if at any time the Government had prepared for not deal, if at any time the Government had made the European Union take no deal seriously, if Parliament hadn’t consistently undermined the option of no deal, what we might have achieved.”

Michael Portillo

keep kicking the can down the road and we will get a time limited Backstop.

[barney]

Reinforces what I've said from day one. Had the UK made serious no deal plans and published them to the world, it would have been done and dusted by now. They are only now believing it could happen. Very badly handled. I would have done a better job.

[Jack Staff]

Just another 15.4 million required then

Well it's put on nearly another million in twelve hours.
We both know that in reality it no longer matters.
This petition has brought the possibility of revoking Article 50 to public attention, and they like it.

[Jack Staff]

Reinforces what I've said from day one. Had the UK made serious no deal plans and published them to the world, it would have been done and dusted by now. They are only now believing it could happen. Very badly handled. I would have done a better job.

I'm inclined to agree, if things had been done differently we could be leaving on the 29th. It would have been bad, but...
The EU have now handed her enough rope to hang herself and Brexit too.

[Onelife]

They will need to be b****y good if they intend sorting it out in 2 weeks, looks as though they expect us to revoke A50 to avoid a no deal exit. Now that will be interesting.

The petition has just gone past 2 million.
I think the interesting thing about revoking A50 will be celebrations as my country takes back control!

Let’s not get carried away here Jack……until such time that the Remainer vote surpasses 16 million+ the vote has no significance whatsoever

[towny44]

Just another 15.4 million required then

Well it's put on nearly another million in twelve hours.
We both know that in reality it no longer matters.
This petition has brought the possibility of revoking Article 50 to public attention, and they like it.

I have to hand it you Jack you are certainly a glass half full kind of guy, you have never stopped believing that one day your prince will come Brexit would be defeated. Maybe fairy tales can come true.

[johnds]

You're becoming a real cynic Barney, the sooner Gillingham reach 50 point safety the better.

Have you had a look at the league one table John ? 50 won't be enough this season. 12th downwards are in relegation trouble

Try not to worry Barney, at least you have several teams below you who need to perform better than you to overtake you, we are in danger of being lapped by City and Liverpool.

There are those worse off than yourself
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