Brexit

[david63]

Perhaps a naive question but should there be a law passed that if a no deal is on the cards by a certain date that the Government has to ask for an extension and the EU say "no extension" then what happens?

[towny44]

As we watched the 6:00pm BBC news last night, which featured the PM's plea to the rebel Tory MPs not to back the no deal bill, my wife asked the question, "just who is running the country", as Laura Kuenssberg still insisted Boris would call for a GE if he lost the vote, despite him not stating this; and she is still insisting she is right on their website this morning.
Maybe Boris should have taken her in as a pet, instead of Dilyn, the rescue dog.

[Manoverboard]

In spite of Boris saying he doesn't want a GE I think he does …. and in spite of Labour saying they do want a GE I think they don't.

One outcome could be that the Tories will win the vast majority of their traditional seats coupled with the Brexit Party only standing in the Labour strongholds. A neat coalition and et voila we leave on the 31st October.

Seemples

[barney]

Not a million miles away from my own opinion Moby.

[screwy]

It seems the rebels are starting to feel the heat. Greening has said she won’t stand in the next Election, who’s next to jump.?

[barney]

It seems the rebels are starting to feel the heat. Greening has said she won’t stand in the next Election, who’s next to jump.?

There will be quite a few on both sides of the divide in my opinion.
About time too.
This must be the worst bunch of MPs in living history.

[Ray Scully]

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[barney]

When I said last year that because of parliaments refusal to carry out the referendum decision, politics in the UK will be changed forever, Jack Staff and another who we can't mention because of holiday, scoffed at this suggestion.

It's all come to fruition.

The upcoming GE will dictate that all prospective MPs stand on a very specific stance on the only real issue.

I genuinely thought that there would be a hung parliament but I'm changing my mind to a Tory majority.
Corbyn will be usurped in my opinion, with a more hardliner.

[oldbluefox]

In spite of Boris saying he doesn't want a GE I think he does …. and in spite of Labour saying they do want a GE I think they don't.

One outcome could be that the Tories will win the vast majority of their traditional seats coupled with the Brexit Party only standing in the Labour strongholds. A neat coalition and et voila we leave on the 31st October.

Seemples

I feel an echo coming on!!!!
Certainly it will be interesting in the north and midlands; not sure whether they would be bold enough to vote Tory but certainly the Brexit party could do a lot of damage in the Labour heartlands leading to Brexit coalition, assuming Boris doesn't get the Tories across the finishing line.

[screwy]

Anything but Corbyn & Lib Dem’s.

[Mervyn and Trish]

As we watched the 6:00pm BBC news last night, which featured the PM's plea to the rebel Tory MPs not to back the no deal bill, my wife asked the question, "just who is running the country", as Laura Kuenssberg still insisted Boris would call for a GE if he lost the vote, despite him not stating this; and she is still insisting she is right on their website this morning.
Maybe Boris should have taken her in as a pet, instead of Dilyn, the rescue dog.

Within moments of Boris speaking his aides were briefing journos that Oct 14th was the date. Which is how Laura knows.

[screwy]

When I said last year that because of parliaments refusal to carry out the referendum decision, politics in the UK will be changed forever, Jack Staff and another who we can't mention because of holiday, scoffed at this suggestion.

It's all come to fruition.

The upcoming GE will dictate that all prospective MPs stand on a very specific stance on the only real issue.

I genuinely thought that there would be a hung parliament but I'm changing my mind to a Tory majority.
Corbyn will be usurped in my opinion, with a more hardliner.

Your going to be in trouble when she reads it.

[Manoverboard]

I spotted Larry at the front door of No 10 this morning … do you think he knows about the ' D O G '

ps … and will the ' D O G ' be going in and out of the back door ?

[Mervyn and Trish]

I spotted him wandering out during BoJo's speech last night. I wonder who his agent is?

[Stephen]

I spotted him wandering out during BoJo's speech last night. I wonder who his agent is?

Cat Stevens

[Stephen]

It's like listening to a childs playground.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-49557734

[screwy]

It's like listening to a childs playground.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-49557734

No Stephen, Children have better manners. Disgusting wasn't it.What an absolutely Pathetic bunch of Morons.I made the decision watching that, that i will never vote again, what's the point?

[Stephen]

It does make you wonder who is actually running the country, the MP's or the prime minister.

Back stabbing disloyal wasters, the lot of them.

[david63]

Haven't watched anything - have I missed something?????

[barney]

Nothing to see here.

[towny44]

Well Boris has lost his first vote and threatens a general election, Corbyn, under Blair and Campbell's prompting looks likely to abstain in Boris's fixed term parliament vote to have an election in mid October, so its a stalemate Boris has lost his majority and is unlikely to get any legislation, of any description passed, and he is a lame duck PM ruling at Corbyn's wishes.
Does he have any cards left to play, perhaps, Jack always maintained that the UK retained a veto over many aspects of EU legislation, so the only way for Boris to leave on 31st October would seem to be to p*ss off the EU to such an extent that they refuse the UK Govts. request, forced on them today, for an extension to article 51.
Ergo we leave on 31st October without a deal and the EU is to blame rather than the the UK.

[barney]

There are now 21 less Tory MPs.

There is now no option but for a general election.

Nothing else can resolve this.

[screwy]

Like your thinking Towny, maybe you should be an advisor..

[Stephen]

The traitors have been chucked out of the Conservative party, and rightly so. Personally I'd have sent them to the tower as well. I think the country should chuck the lot of them out of parliament on the grounds of no confidence in any of them.

[towny44]

Not sure I agree with Stephen, I think the rebel held view about a no deal is valid from their perspective, and I am sure they have only voted against the Govt with extreme reluctance. Unfortunately if, because of their vote, we end up with a Labour govt. then there will probably be a 2nd referendum, and even if that were still to leave, it is likely we would end up with a watered down Brexit, still in the single market and customs union, subject to ECJ law and unable to agree satisfactory external trade deals, and probably paying for that dubious privilege.
Not an outcome that I want to see at all.
Unfortunately a Tory win, supported by some sort of electoral pact with the Brexit party, will only lead to further fracturing of UK society, and quite likely leaving with no deal; which is not certain to be catastrophic, but unlikely to be beneficial in the short term, and maybe not for many years to come.
It's a conundrum that not even a snickers bar is likely to overcome.