Brexit

[Stephen]

Brexit: PM sends letter to Brussels seeking further delay https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50112924



Well said Boris.

[Manoverboard]

Letwin makes one ashamed to be associated with Dorset … as well as being a volunteer in his village shop it sadly seems that he is also the puppet of a Remainer QC.

More MPs will see this disgraceful ploy for what it was and vote with Boris to get the EU agreed deal finally passed.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I see today Corbyn is ready for government. Shame he turned down the chance of an election then. The solution to everything is, apparently, socialism. Well I suppose it would make us rapidly forget any minor damage to the economy caused by Brexit once he'd made us poorer than Venezuela.

[david63]

once he'd made us poorer than Venezuela.

Ah but what you are forgetting is that it would not be his policies that made us poorer but Brexit - in fact he would probably argue that if it wasn't for his policies we would all be a lot more poor!!

[Stephen]

You sound like MP material David.

[Mervyn and Trish]

once he'd made us poorer than Venezuela.

Ah but what you are forgetting is that it would not be his policies that made us poorer but Brexit - in fact he would probably argue that if it wasn't for his policies we would all be a lot more poor!!

But only a Tory Brexit!

Under a Labour Brexit we would be free of all EU rules and restrictions, end uncontrolled immigration, not have to pay any membership, but still enjoy all the benefits of the single market and customs union. I'm not sure why Boris didn't think of that? Surely the EU would agree?

[anniec]

Just occasionally someone on twitter comes up with a gem:

"The year is 2192. The British Prime Minister visits Brussels to ask for an extension of the Brexit deadline. No one remembers where this tradition originated, but every year it attracts many tourists from all over the world".

[Stephen]

Just occasionally someone on twitter comes up with a gem:

"The year is 2192. The British Prime Minister visits Brussels to ask for an extension of the Brexit deadline. No one remembers where this tradition originated, but every year it attracts many tourists from all over the world".

[Mervyn and Trish]

I see Berko is unlikely to agree to Bojo having another go at getting his vote done today. He apparently doesn't agree with voting on the same twice.

Unless it's a Brexit referendum of course....

[Stephen]

I see Berko is unlikely to agree to Bojo having another go at getting his vote done today. He apparently doesn't agree with voting on the same twice.

Unless it's a Brexit referendum of course....

Another one who's jumped up and full of himself.

[towny44]

I see Berko is unlikely to agree to Bojo having another go at getting his vote done today. He apparently doesn't agree with voting on the same twice.

Unless it's a Brexit referendum of course....

Another one who's jumped up and full of himself.

I will be glad to see the back of this little turd, if in fact he does stand down at the end of the month.

[Gill W]

Just occasionally someone on twitter comes up with a gem:

"The year is 2192. The British Prime Minister visits Brussels to ask for an extension of the Brexit deadline. No one remembers where this tradition originated, but every year it attracts many tourists from all over the world".

I saw that, it made me laugh.

[Gill W]

I see Berko is unlikely to agree to Bojo having another go at getting his vote done today. He apparently doesn't agree with voting on the same twice.

Unless it's a Brexit referendum of course....

It’s not Bercow - it’s the rule book. Erskine May says that a motion or amendment can’t be brought back if the question has previously been decided on, in this session of Parliament

On Saturday, Parliament decided that they would wait until the Withdrawal Agreement Bill was available, and fully scrutinised before voting on whether to accept it.

Johnson’s attempt to bring his motion back today is an attempt to overturn what happened on Saturday and shouldn’t be allowed.

It’s also a cynical attempt to pit ‘plucky Johnson’ against ‘Bercow and the Remainer Parliament’. A narrative the many are only too willing to buy into ( as this thread indicates)

[Stephen]

I see Berko is unlikely to agree to Bojo having another go at getting his vote done today. He apparently doesn't agree with voting on the same twice.

Unless it's a Brexit referendum of course....

It’s not Bercow - it’s the rule book. Erskine May says that a motion or amendment can’t be brought back if the question has previously been decided on, in this session of Parliament

On Saturday, Parliament decided that they would wait until the Withdrawal Agreement Bill was available, and fully scrutinised before voting on whether to accept it.

Johnson’s attempt to bring his motion back today is an attempt to overturn what happened on Saturday and shouldn’t be allowed.

It’s also a cynical attempt to pit ‘plucky Johnson’ against ‘Bercow and the Remainer Parliament’. A narrative the many are only too willing to buy into ( as this thread indicates)

Not at all Gill

Boris is just trying to do right by the people of this country who voted by a majority to leave the EU but keeps being held back by the whinging remainers in government and they're underhand tactics. Which bit of 'THEY LOST' don't they understand.

Like most of the country we are sick and tired of it. If remainers can't hack it the ferry leaves sometime this afternoon.

[towny44]

I see Berko is unlikely to agree to Bojo having another go at getting his vote done today. He apparently doesn't agree with voting on the same twice.

Unless it's a Brexit referendum of course....

It’s not Bercow - it’s the rule book. Erskine May says that a motion or amendment can’t be brought back if the question has previously been decided on, in this session of Parliament

On Saturday, Parliament decided that they would wait until the Withdrawal Agreement Bill was available, and fully scrutinised before voting on whether to accept it.

Johnson’s attempt to bring his motion back today is an attempt to overturn what happened on Saturday and shouldn’t be allowed.

It’s also a cynical attempt to pit ‘plucky Johnson’ against ‘Bercow and the Remainer Parliament’. A narrative the many are only too willing to buy into ( as this thread indicates)

Not at all Gill

Boris is just trying to do right by the people of this country who voted by a majority to leave the EU but keeps being held back by the whinging remainers in government and they're underhand tactics. Which bit of 'THEY LOST' don't they understand.

Like most of the country we are sick and tired of it. If remainers can't hack it the ferry leaves sometime this afternoon.

I am just glad that Gill has eventually agreed that the leavers are in fact "the many" and the remainers are still the minority.

[Mervyn and Trish]

You're right about the rules Gill. However the bit Berkow hasn't read is the bit about the Speaker being impartial. I respect your right to favour Remain but even ftom that standpoint you must see he's bent over backwards to favour the Remainers in the House.

[Manoverboard]

Eh, hang on …

We have a revised agreement but it wasn't voted on because of the Letwin amendment. If that is correct then Bird-droppings cannot deny the vote because it is the first meaningful vote ….. surely ?

[david63]

Now then MoB since when has logic been something that our parliamentarians have been blessed with?

[Mervyn and Trish]

Anyway I have now put in place an arrangement to guarantee Brexit will be sorted by 31st October. I've been putting off shelling out £5.50 for an International Driving Permit for our next trip to Madeira, which will be after 31st Oct, in the hope it would not be needed. I have now given in and paid the money. I can guarantee that will precipitate a decision.

[Gill W]

It’s not Bercow - it’s the rule book. Erskine May says that a motion or amendment can’t be brought back if the question has previously been decided on, in this session of Parliament

On Saturday, Parliament decided that they would wait until the Withdrawal Agreement Bill was available, and fully scrutinised before voting on whether to accept it.

Johnson’s attempt to bring his motion back today is an attempt to overturn what happened on Saturday and shouldn’t be allowed.

It’s also a cynical attempt to pit ‘plucky Johnson’ against ‘Bercow and the Remainer Parliament’. A narrative the many are only too willing to buy into ( as this thread indicates)

Not at all Gill

Boris is just trying to do right by the people of this country who voted by a majority to leave the EU but keeps being held back by the whinging remainers in government and they're underhand tactics. Which bit of 'THEY LOST' don't they understand.

Like most of the country we are sick and tired of it. If remainers can't hack it the ferry leaves sometime this afternoon.

I am just glad that Gill has eventually agreed that the leavers are in fact "the many" and the remainers are still the minority.

It was a typo.
It should have been 'a narrative THAT many are only too willing to buy into'

[Ray Scully]

Well what a dogs dinner. Despite being a Remoaner but sensible enough to accept that a fair and balanced compromise is the only way forward I concur with some of reasoning behind the proposed agreement. However I can not for one minute trust Mr Johnson to deliver an even handed solution, as he, like May before him is very much under the influence of the Spartans, who will play any card to get their 'clean break from the EU'

[Gill W]

Who started that Spartan thing?

[Manoverboard]

Well what a dogs dinner. Despite being a Remoaner but sensible enough to accept that a fair and balanced compromise is the only way forward I concur with some of reasoning behind the proposed agreement. However I can not for one minute trust Mr Johnson to deliver an even handed solution, as he, like May before him is very much under the influence of the Spartans, who will play any card to get their 'clean break from the EU'

Doesn't make sense Ray ….

If your ( ex ) Remainer chums had let the ' Meaningful ' vote go through on Saturday then the outcome, if it was carried, would have prevented any chance of leaving without a deal …. yes ?

[towny44]

Well what a dogs dinner. Despite being a Remoaner but sensible enough to accept that a fair and balanced compromise is the only way forward I concur with some of reasoning behind the proposed agreement. However I can not for one minute trust Mr Johnson to deliver an even handed solution, as he, like May before him is very much under the influence of the Spartans, who will play any card to get their 'clean break from the EU'

Doesn't make sense Ray ….

If your ( ex ) Remainer chums had let the ' Meaningful ' vote go through on Saturday then the outcome, if it was carried, would have prevented any chance of leaving without a deal …. yes ?

Maybe not, they argued on Daily Politics today that without the Benn letter we could have crashed out if parliament ran out of time debating the bill.

[Ray Scully]

Well what a dogs dinner. Despite being a Remoaner but sensible enough to accept that a fair and balanced compromise is the only way forward I concur with some of reasoning behind the proposed agreement. However I can not for one minute trust Mr Johnson to deliver an even handed solution, as he, like May before him is very much under the influence of the Spartans, who will play any card to get their 'clean break from the EU'

Doesn't make sense Ray ….

If your ( ex ) Remainer chums had let the ' Meaningful ' vote go through on Saturday then the outcome, if it was carried, would have prevented any chance of leaving without a deal …. yes ?

Maybe not, they argued on Daily Politics today that without the Benn letter we could have crashed out if parliament ran out of time debating the bill.

Thanks John, also we could have crashed after the transitional period if a trade deal had not been agreed, hence my lack of trust in Mr Johnson.