Brexit

[Mervyn and Trish]

Do you know I'm getting so fed us with the procrastination I'm ready for a second referendum. On five conditions:

1. The question is simple. Boris's deal or Remain.

2. Before the referendum Parliament passes legislation that binds them to action the result immediately if it's Leave again.

3. No campaigning by either side. Just hold the vote.

4. If the result is Leave again, Remainers accept it and stop arguing.

5. If the result is Remain, then it's best of three...….

[oldbluefox]

For a minute I thought you'd lost the plot Merv.

[Manoverboard]

Me too …. phew

[Mervyn and Trish]

For a minute I thought you'd lost the plot Merv.

I have. I'm a teapot.

[oldbluefox]

I think you need to lie down in a darkened room. Next you'll be telling us you're joining the Change party with Ms Soubry.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I think you need to lie down in a darkened room. Next you'll be telling us you're joining the Change party with Ms Soubry.

I said I was a teapot. I didn't say I was insane.

[oldbluefox]

The way you were spouting on I was worried for your sanity.

[Onelife]

The most likely outcome of a general election is another hung parliament

Not sure about that Ken as a lot will depend on the tactics especially with the Brexit Party. I have a gut feeling that the Conservatives could have a [small] working majority.

They are going to be sadly disappointed when they realise that that is just the end of the first (and probably the easiest) phase - nothing will change as we enter the transition period and start the next, and much more important, round of negotiations.

Cannot disagree with that.

I do, in this first phase the EU has had the upper hand because they did not want us to leave and have been able to play hard ball in the negotiations. The trade deal puts the UK in charge because the EU has far more to lose with the huge trade imbalance we have with them, they will not want to force a stalemate leading to a no deal exit which should provide UK negotiators with a very large advantage.
Which is why Boris must NOT be forced to take no deal deal off the table.

Hi John,

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You are absolutely correct in saying Boris shouldn't take no deal off the table. Corby and Swinson have no other avenue to take other than wanting no deal taken off the table. They both know that retaining any credibility for their "party political ambitions" now revolve around Boris not getting good trade deals with the EU, this would surely be the case if he has to start negotiations with his hands tied behind our backs again.

The 14 month transition period is in my opinion wishful thinking, however, whatever time scales we work to it will ultimately be to our bennifit... "as we grow stronger making trade deals outside of the block the EU's negotiating position gets weaker"

[Stephen]

Brexit: European leaders agree extension to 31 January https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50205603


No surprise there. The longer we stay in the more money keeps winging they're way.

[Mervyn and Trish]

And they don't want no deal. In fact I'm sure they think the longer they can hang it out the more likely no Brexit becomes.

[Stephen]

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[david63]

Can someone who is more well versed in these matters than I am explain why Labour did not vote for a General Election yesterday when they (or at least Corbyn et al) have been banging on about an election for the last six months!!

[barney]

Simple David.
They don't think that they can win it.
If they don't, then Corbyn must stand down as leader being twice failed.
As the new leader will be elected by the Labour members, the MPs know full well that the next leader will probably be far more left wing than Jezza.
So just like brexit, they are content to kick it further down the road.
Tonight there may be a decision that will be made without need for their votes.

[Mervyn and Trish]

But now it looks as if they are going to vote for an election. But arguing over the date.

[Stephen]

I sometimes wonder why we have prime minister. They have about as much power as my little finger.

As for Parliament.....words fail me.

[Stephen]

Smug git

They don't want to come knocking on my door for votes if they value their health.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50221856

[Manoverboard]

Smug git

They don't want to come knocking on my door for votes if they value their health.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50221856

Why is that … have you got a contagious virus may one politely enquire ?

[Stephen]

No, why, do you know where I can get one.

[towny44]

The GE race is underway if you want Brexit vote Tory, if you want to Remain vote Libdem, if you want total chaos vote Labour.

[Onelife]

I've just contacted my local Conservative office in order to get my campaign posters

[david63]

Simple David.
They don't think that they can win it.
If they don't, then Corbyn must stand down as leader being twice failed.
As the new leader will be elected by the Labour members, the MPs know full well that the next leader will probably be far more left wing than Jezza.
So just like brexit, they are content to kick it further down the road.
Tonight there may be a decision that will be made without need for their votes.

I know all that so why is it, all of a sudden, OK today?

[Manoverboard]

I've just contacted my local Conservative office in order to get my campaign posters

I don't use paper to light my fire … just saying

[johnds]

I may be disenfranchised (in effect)in a December Election
My M.P. is Lindsey Hoyle a current deputy speaker who is a favourite to replace
the current incumbent if he keeps his word to go on Thursday.
I think protocol is that the speaker is not opposed

[david63]

I think protocol is that the speaker is not opposed

Not by the "major" parties but it is possible that some of the "rag, tag and bobtail" parties may field a candidate.

[Gill W]

Simple David.
They don't think that they can win it.
If they don't, then Corbyn must stand down as leader being twice failed.
As the new leader will be elected by the Labour members, the MPs know full well that the next leader will probably be far more left wing than Jezza.
So just like brexit, they are content to kick it further down the road.
Tonight there may be a decision that will be made without need for their votes.

I know all that so why is it, all of a sudden, OK today?

Apparently, according to Corbyn, it's ok today because 'no deal has been taken off the table'.

Personally, I haven't noticed anything changed in the last 24 hours.

It's all a farce - none of them are fit for purpose.