Brexit

[Onelife]

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MobyMod

I of course agree with everything Mob has said........squeak! squeak!

[Gill W]

Gill & Frank, If you really believe that any negative comments made by high profile remainers, or indeed leavers, cannot be mentioned on here for fear of winding someone else up, then you will both need to avoid any posts I make.
I am all for moving on and getting behind the government as it tries to plot the best path to independent trade deals, but I am not prepared to be muzzled in order not to offend any sensitive remainers.
It took almost 4 years culminating in a massive victory for Boris before the majority of remainers decided to capitulate, and that is something as a true democrat that will take a long time to heal.
So if the likes of Hugh Grant, Michael Heseltine or Tony Blair continue to deny the validity of the referendum, do not expect me to stay silent.

You thought it was strange that I said there'd be people who voted leave who'd carry on repeating the same things for 40 years.

Yet you yourself appear to be unable to move on, still using terms like 'victory' and 'capitulation'.

You are a prime example of what I had in mind.

I do prefer to avoid your posts, but you often tend to keep responding to me personally, so it is difficult to ignore you completely. I'm only human, so if I bite back sometimes, and you don't like it, well that'll just be tough.

[Gill W]

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MobyMod

Genuinely, I don't want to prevent peoples freedoms -I just want this place to be a pleasant place for everyone, and people showing some consideration for each other.

However, I think 'moving on' with this forum will largely entail people who voted Leave carrying on with the same divisive narrative of the last three and a half years, and people who voted 'Remain' staying largely silent, because they are completely fed up with everyone else's inability to genuinely move forward.

It is what it is.

[towny44]

Gill & Frank, If you really believe that any negative comments made by high profile remainers, or indeed leavers, cannot be mentioned on here for fear of winding someone else up, then you will both need to avoid any posts I make.
I am all for moving on and getting behind the government as it tries to plot the best path to independent trade deals, but I am not prepared to be muzzled in order not to offend any sensitive remainers.
It took almost 4 years culminating in a massive victory for Boris before the majority of remainers decided to capitulate, and that is something as a true democrat that will take a long time to heal.
So if the likes of Hugh Grant, Michael Heseltine or Tony Blair continue to deny the validity of the referendum, do not expect me to stay silent.

You thought it was strange that I said there'd be people who voted leave who'd carry on repeating the same things for 40 years.

Yet you yourself appear to be unable to move on, still using terms like 'victory' and 'capitulation'.

You are a prime example of what I had in mind.

I do prefer to avoid your posts, but you often tend to keep responding to me personally, so it is difficult to ignore you completely. I'm only human, so if I bite back sometimes, and you don't like it, well that'll just be tough.

Gill, if you think that commenting on a high profile personality's reported utterances in the press is repeating the same thing, then your view is different to mine, similarly I don't see how the result of the last GE can be considered anything other than a victory for Boris. I am not really sorry that my choice of capitulation offended you, since you have spent the last 3 and half years telling me why the referendum was invalid, illegal and unconstitutional, so I think I will be allowed a little jubilation on Friday.

[Mervyn and Trish]

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MobyMod

You are of course quite right. And deliberate attacks on individuals, members or not, and inflammatory posts are quite rightly outside the aforementioned rules. Different from lively debate. I'm sure you and your fellow modplods will be all over it if warfare breaks out again.

[Manoverboard]

Genuinely, I don't want to prevent peoples freedoms -I just want this place to be a pleasant place for everyone, and people showing some consideration for each other.

However, I think 'moving on' with this forum will largely entail people who voted Leave carrying on with the same divisive narrative of the last three and a half years, and people who voted 'Remain' staying largely silent, because they are completely fed up with everyone else's inability to genuinely move forward.

It is what it is.

What it is … for me I have throughout believed with passion that the will of the people should prevail in spite of being put down at every opportunity. The Leavers are entitled to enjoy their hour and cometh the 31st that will be that … thereafter we should all be able to comment about the progress, or otherwise, of the trade talks without taking it personally. If any of the yesterdays men and women try to pour scorn on the end game of Brexit then do not be surprised if they are put down but only because they are out of touch with the electorate. Basically It has more to do with democracy than which side of the divide we were once on.

[oldbluefox]

Basically It has more to do with democracy than which side of the divide we were once on.

............................which has been the basis of the argument for the past three years. The division came from those who could not, and would not accept the result of the referendum.

[Mervyn and Trish]

And hopefully this week draws a line under that. Now we work together for the best deal. If a party wants to campaign to rejoin at the next election so be it. I expect they'll enjoy the same success as the Lib Dems in December.

[CaroleF]

I'll be raising a glass on Friday - to the Future, not in any way crowing over Remainers - my husband was one. I think the other thing I'll have in mind is that until the Election I really despaired of what seemed to be happening to Democracy in this country. I couldn't believe that, what to me, seemed a minority of people - the Remainers in Parliament - were denying the result of a democratic vote. I had not realised that there were thousands of people in this country who obviously thought the same. So for me it'll be a toast to the Future of our country and also to Democracy.

Carole

[towny44]

I'll be raising a glass on Friday - to the Future, not in any way crowing over Remainers - my husband was one. I think the other thing I'll have in mind is that until the Election I really despaired of what seemed to be happening to Democracy in this country. I couldn't believe that, what to me, seemed a minority of people - the Remainers in Parliament - were denying the result of a democratic vote. I had not realised that there were thousands of people in this country who obviously thought the same. So for me it'll be a toast to the Future of our country and also to Democracy.

Carole

Well said Carole, that echoes my thoughts exactly.

[Midlandslass]

I'll be raising a glass on Friday - to the Future, not in any way crowing over Remainers - my husband was one. I think the other thing I'll have in mind is that until the Election I really despaired of what seemed to be happening to Democracy in this country. I couldn't believe that, what to me, seemed a minority of people - the Remainers in Parliament - were denying the result of a democratic vote. I had not realised that there were thousands of people in this country who obviously thought the same. So for me it'll be a toast to the Future of our country and also to Democracy.

Carole

I think it would be nice if there was a ‘like’ button on this site.

I too will be breaking open some of the sparkly stuff on Friday and making a toast to democracy, sovereignty and the future.

[oldbluefox]

[Onelife]

I'll be raising a glass on Friday - to the Future, not in any way crowing over Remainers - my husband was one. I think the other thing I'll have in mind is that until the Election I really despaired of what seemed to be happening to Democracy in this country. I couldn't believe that, what to me, seemed a minority of people - the Remainers in Parliament - were denying the result of a democratic vote. I had not realised that there were thousands of people in this country who obviously thought the same. So for me it'll be a toast to the Future of our country and also to Democracy.

Carole

I think it would be nice if there was a ‘like’ button on this site.

I too will be breaking open some of the sparkly stuff on Friday and making a toast to democracy, sovereignty and the future.

i will be raising a glass to Theresa May who paved the way for Brexit to happen

[barney]

I'll be raising a glass on Friday - to the Future, not in any way crowing over Remainers - my husband was one. I think the other thing I'll have in mind is that until the Election I really despaired of what seemed to be happening to Democracy in this country. I couldn't believe that, what to me, seemed a minority of people - the Remainers in Parliament - were denying the result of a democratic vote. I had not realised that there were thousands of people in this country who obviously thought the same. So for me it'll be a toast to the Future of our country and also to Democracy.

Carole

I think it would be nice if there was a ‘like’ button on this site.

I too will be breaking open some of the sparkly stuff on Friday and making a toast to democracy, sovereignty and the future.

i will be raising a glass to Theresa May who paved the way for Brexit to happen

Whoah there Keefy.
Cameron paved the way for Brexit.
Calamity May nearly cocked the whole thing up with her wishy washy approach.
History will say that her reign was disastrous.

As you will know, I'm no Tory, but Johnson is in a different class to May ..... or May not.

[oldbluefox]

And Cameron was forced into a tight corner by Farage and the Brexit party. But I agree Boris is a different kettle of fish altogether. I doubt he will let the EU push him around as they did our Theresa.

[Gill W]

I expect you’ll all be buying the tea towel to remind you of your celebratory day

https://shop.conservatives.com/collections/all

[david63]

I expect you’ll all be buying the tea towel to remind you of your celebratory day

https://shop.conservatives.com/collections/all

Not at that price!! I will wait until I get a 50p in my change

[Manoverboard]

I couldn't possibly allow Mobietta to do the drying up with a tea towel that clashed with the colours in one's kitchen.

[oldbluefox]

I expect you’ll all be buying the tea towel to remind you of your celebratory day

https://shop.conservatives.com/collections/all

Not here. Neither will I be draping myself in the Union Jack or wearing a silly hat or gracing the airwaves with a megaphone. I shall be celebrating the fact that democracy has won the day with a resounding victory in the GE which saw the likes of Soubry, Grieve & Co firmly ousted.

[david63]

Interestingly I was just reading that Brexit is not yet a "done deal" as it still requires the European Parliament's approval later today - although, in theory, this should just be a formality there is also the [remote] possibility that they will not approve it.

[barney]

The EU parliament only exists to rubber stamp decisions made by the Commission so as to give the illusion of democracy.

[Manoverboard]

I note that a Scottish MEP has been sworn in today …. but only for 4 days

[Mervyn and Trish]

But think of the redundancy money

[Manoverboard]

… and the four figure monthly pension I dare say

[towny44]

… and the four figure monthly pension I dare say

I would hope so, I certainly could not manage on £12000pa.