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Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson . . .

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There has been several interesting Radio/TV progs recently outlining the life and times of this flamboyant gentleman

Could he ever become a UK Prime Minister having been a great success as the London mayor :?:

Bridge too far perhaps
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I rather like Boris :lol: :lol:
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I think Boris is great, and with a Classics degree from Oxford is not as stupid as he likes to portray himself. As PM though, I'm not quite sure but he is certainly talented and has a great personality.
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I like Boris too, don't think he could do any worse as PM than any of this lot at the moment...... Any party!

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I remember some of the posts on various boards when he took over from Ken 'part time socialist, part time money stasher' Livingstone.
Many thought Boris would be a disaster but he has proved those nay sayers totally wrong. He comes across as a bit of a buffoon but I think much of that is 'play acting' and elements of the media being very selective in how they portray him. There is no doubt that unlike his predecessor he is highly intelligent and has worked hard for London.

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Not a fan of ...... Ken 'part time socialist, part time money stasher' Livingstone then Ken :lol: :lol:
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At least he's been open about the skeletons in his cupboard! He certainly can't do any worse than the mob we've endured to date.
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I love me too!

Boris!

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he does play the buffoon, well and I think he is far more savvy and astute than people give him credit for
he could be a serious politico. if he wanted to be
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I have warmed to Boris over the years.....Boris for PM, I hope so.....I might be tempted to vote Tory myself if he was. :thumbup:

Well perhaps not...It is 1st April you know. :lol:
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Yeaa, go PtE - vote Boris, vote Boris - ra ra ra.

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Bleeding Heck

Invited Boris for a typical rural Darzet wayzgoose and he has excepted for amusing services rendered

How best should I treat my "hero"
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any chance of a translation Graham ?....
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What are the great successes of his reign that you all refer to?

As far as I can see he's just a part-time cheerleader (if a Labour mayor kept his day job as Johnson has done whilst trying to be mayor imagine the outcry)

He's a very good PR man. Past that? Remember the bullingdon club photos?


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sumdumbloke wrote:
What are the great successes of his reign that you all refer to?

As far as I can see he's just a part-time cheerleader (if a Labour mayor kept his day job as Johnson has done whilst trying to be mayor imagine the outcry)

He's a very good PR man. Past that? Remember the bullingdon club photos?
I agree I take a different view to my chum OBF, because I am not sure a classics degree proves much. If Boris became leader of the Tories they might lurch even further into the hands of the unthinking blinkered right wing factions so vocal in the Tory party.

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Frank Manning wrote:
they might lurch even further into the hands of the unthinking blinkered right wing factions so vocal in the Tory party.
Which would still be significantly better over the brain-dead, economy destroying left wing factions that make up the Labour party.

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Kendhni wrote:
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they might lurch even further into the hands of the unthinking blinkered right wing factions so vocal in the Tory party.
Which would still be significantly better over the brain-dead, economy destroying left wing factions that make up the Labour party.

to be brain-dead infers the presence of a brain....
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They obviously have brains .. they managed to totally trash the economy .. that level of incompetence must have required some brains to get things so badly wrong and cause this country at least 10 years of additional misery.

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Yes Ken, and if the 39 Conservative U-turns are anything to go by it could take a whole lot longer than that? :)

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Giant, is Boris really going to visit you?

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Onelife wrote:
Yes Ken, and if the 39 Conservative U-turns are anything to go by it could take a whole lot longer than that? :)

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Are you sure it wasn't 38 .. or is it maybe 40 .. or possibly 23?
Many of the so called u-turns (for any government) is the media creating non-stories to sell their rags to a gullible public. The same happened with Gordon Brown when he, at one point, was referred to as 'corkscrew Brown' because of the number of u-turns he was doing. The bottom line is that many of the u-turns, on any government, relate to nothing more than ideas that have been fielded for discussion, the media has picked them up, knee-jerked out of control, misled the public and then when the government decides it was not a good idea, or could not be funded, or needed more thought or whatever, the media refer to it as a uturn .. but it keeps the public happy and sells the rags.

Also, with a coalition government one would expect more changes in policy ... that is often both an upside and a downside of coalition governments.

Fortunately the coalition government now seems to have got a grasp on the economy and we are seeing confidence and investment returning ... this bodes well for the second half of this decade ... but then again, we have to think about repaying the debt and solving the pensions timebomb that has been shelved ...again!

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gfwgfw wrote:
Bleeding Heck

Invited Boris for a typical rural Darzet wayzgoose and he has excepted for amusing services rendered

How best should I treat my "hero"

BTW

I christened my newly born Ferret . . . .

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Now known as "Vanker"

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Kendhni wrote:
Onelife wrote:
Yes Ken, and if the 39 Conservative U-turns are anything to go by it could take a whole lot longer than that? :)

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Are you sure it wasn't 38 .. or is it maybe 40 .. or possibly 23?
Many of the so called u-turns (for any government) is the media creating non-stories to sell their rags to a gullible public. The same happened with Gordon Brown when he, at one point, was referred to as 'corkscrew Brown' because of the number of u-turns he was doing. The bottom line is that many of the u-turns, on any government, relate to nothing more than ideas that have been fielded for discussion, the media has picked them up, knee-jerked out of control, misled the public and then when the government decides it was not a good idea, or could not be funded, or needed more thought or whatever, the media refer to it as a uturn .. but it keeps the public happy and sells the rags.

Also, with a coalition government one would expect more changes in policy ... that is often both an upside and a downside of coalition governments.

Fortunately the coalition government now seems to have got a grasp on the economy and we are seeing confidence and investment returning ... this bodes well for the second half of this decade ... but then again, we have to think about repaying the debt and solving the pensions timebomb that has been shelved ...again!
Well at least we’re in agreement that there have been lots of government u-turns? As for precisely how many and how much their incompetence has cost the country gawd only knows. What I do know is one of their U-turns cost the tax payer £100 million because of their divering over which fighter jets they should order, add to this the West coast Rail franchise cock up which I believe cost another £50 million then you can soon see there’s room for improvement in their policy making department.

Sorry Ken but working on the principle that these ministers are supposed to know what they are doing they seem to be making an awful lot of mistakes (Mistakes that wouldn’t be tolerated in any other business). Just because they have what seems an open cheque book doesn’t mean they can spend it recklessly without consequence, which I’m afraid all too often seems to be the case.

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Is your £100m the same as the £74m that they did uturn in order to save over £1bn in the lnger term? Sounds lke good value to me given the millions it cost to buy ourselves out of contracts that labour awarded its cronies in the dying days of their reign of incompetence ..all without proper due diligence.

I know nothing about the railway figure but given most of the reports lately i would guess it is equally selective about facts.

Fortunately the party that was totally reckless with public money is no longer in power ... We now have a coalition tidying up their mess ... Amongst a lot of whinging and whning by a public that is finally learning that they have been over spending for years and someone has finally had the guts to say no.

Have they got it right ... Maybe not in everything they have done but the one thing that is pretty much guaranteed is that at the end of the current parliamentary term this country will be in a much better shape rhan at the beginning of it ... Remember, we were a matter of days/weeks away from being forced down a similar route to ireland etc. Even Millibrain who has yet to come up with some policies has said they will not be reversing many of the changes ... Because rather than falling for media spin they know the reality.

I look forward to the second half of this decadewith quite a bit of optimism, much of that down to policies put in place by tbe coalition governmnt.

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Ken,

We could argue till the fat cows come home on how we got ourselves into this mess but I’m dam sure it wasn’t all to do with the Labour party. What you can be sure about is that whichever party led this country out of recession they would have all followed a similar path to what the present bunch are taking albeit... with probably less cock ups.

I don’t recall the conservative party jumping up and down warning us that we were heading for a world recession...the fact is they didn’t know and neither did the party that was in power at the time.

And for what it’s worth I think Gordon Brown was, and still is a man of integrity who sadly wasn’t born with a crystal ball in his hand.

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